Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 September 21

= September 21 =

Can't view photos in articles.
For some reason, in Internet Explorer, if I click on a photo, all that I see is a black screen, nothing else. This is has been happening the past few days, though I have not been on Wikipedia in a long time, so the issue may have been caused long ago. It does not happen in Firefox or Chrome, so it must be something with IE, but I do not know what. Any ideas?

I have Norton on all three browsers, so that doesn't seem to be it. I also reset cookies and temporary internet files and it did not fix it.

Refreshing the screen causes me to arrive back at the original article, as if I closed the expanded photo box, but clicking the photo produces no box, no "x" to click, nothing. Also, clicking the photo does not change the web address to the photo. Normally, clicking the photo will cause the address in the address bar to change, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatsworth_House changing to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatsworth_House#/media/File:Chatsworth_Bridge.jpg. However, this does not happen in IE. If you can find a solution, let me know, perhaps also add a note to my talk page that a solution was found, so I do not forget to check it. Thank you for any help you can provide. Jonjames1986 (talk) 03:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The guys over at the Reference desk/Computing may be able to help you better. You should tell them the version of IE you are using.-Arch dude (talk) 04:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


 * , update your IE version to the latest, then open Internet Explorer, click the tools icon in the top right-hand corner of the window, then select Internet Options -> Advanced tab -> Multimedia -> Settings -> Show Pictures and check the relevant box. Apply the changes; and then close and re-open the browser. This works most often. Lourdes  08:01, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Exactly the same happens to me in IE and no other tested browser. I have the latest IE version 11.285.17134.0 with Show Pictures enabled. It happens both logged in and out. It only happens in Media Viewer which is seen by IP's and users with "Enable Media Viewer" at Special:Preferences. If you disable it then an image click goes directly to the file page instead. I haven't found other reports. I don't normally use IE and don't know when it started. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Same happens in my IE (same version as PrimeHunter's). However, I'd like to add the problem is with switching to a new page, not with displaying it. When I go to Chatsworth House and click an image, the window becomes black and the address bar doesn't update – but when I copy the image destination URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chatsworth_Bridge.jpg and paste it as an address, the page displays normally. Also, when I follow a link like File:Chatsworth Bridge.jpg, it works as usual. --CiaPan (talk) 11:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I just tried updating IE, and problem still occurs Jonjames1986 (talk) 12:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I've got the same problem - just started in the last few days, maybe following a Windows update. I click on an image in an article and I just get a black screen. None of the suggestions above have worked. Thanks, 86.187.168.218 (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you have the same issue in other browsers like Firefox? TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  21:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * No. It's only IE11. Even Edge is okay, but IE is my preferred browser. User 86.187.168.218, now 31.52.164.71 (talk) 23:01, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've been getting the same problem with viewing images on IE the last few days. I have not updated my Windows (specifically Windows 7 SP1) nor IE (version 11 0.9600.16428) recently, and I've been using Wikipedia regularly for a while now, so unless my IE is so horridly out of date or I'm forgetting something, I suspect the issue is not on my side (or the sides of anyone else here) but on Wikipedia's. Has something been updated about viewing images on Wikipedia recently?


 * I also have Waterfox (a fork of Firefox), and in that browser images on Wikipedia display perfectly fine when I click on them. --Monster Iestyn (talk) 21:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Reported by others in T205162. Nanonic (talk) 01:42, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

This issue appears to have been fixed. Thanks. 31.52.164.71 (talk) 18:36, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree, the issue seems fixed for me now. Thank you. Jonjames1986 (talk) 02:05, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Works for me, too, althought it's another computer now (anyway it's IE 11 on Win 10 as well). --CiaPan (talk) 08:42, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

List of United States senators expelled or censured
This page, List of United States senators expelled or censured, was controversially moved without any previous discussion or debate. This was wrong. Shall the move be overturned?

WhatsUpWorld (talk) 04:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


 * You should have asked this question at the language reference desk, but since you're here, the move was correct and uncontroversial. "senators" should not be capitalized. See for example the AP stylebook entry for "legislative titles". Clarityfiend (talk) 05:37, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


 * MOS:JOBTITLES is the relevant guideline; there is actually an RfC at the moment on fixing the error with automated tools.  Tera TIX  05:56, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Inquiry
How do I nominate an article for deletion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_C._Sobell The entry reads like a resume and isn't particularly worthy of a wikipedia page. https://www.nytimes.com/1982/11/05/us/panel-clears-2-accused-of-scientific-fraud-in-alcoholism-study.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by DefeatFraud (talk • contribs) 12:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC) DefeatFraud (talk) 12:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey DefeatFraud. You may follow the directions here. However, you should note that a poorly written article is not normally a valid rationale for deletion. Rather, we generally delete articles because the subject does not meet Wikipedia's standards for notability, meaning that there are insufficient sources available for someone to, in principle, write a well sourced neutral article, even if that article has not yet been fully written.  G M G  talk  12:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the help GreenMeansGo. I did my best to follow up. Still learning the ropes. DefeatFraud (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Displaying pictures in IE11
Hello, I can no longer display Wikipedia images in IE11. I haven't changed any settings, but maybe there's been a Windows update that's caused the problem. When I click on an image in a Wikipedia page I just get a black screen in IE11. Any ideas? thanks 86.187.168.218 (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


 * See the section above. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:12, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Missed that. I've moved my enquiry there. 86.187.168.218 (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

ISNI link returns blank page
The link http://isni.org/isni/000000012146438X in the article International Standard Name Identifier leads to a redirect to http://www.isni.org/isni/000000012146438X. And that returns a blank page. 77.179.67.71 (talk) 21:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The ISNI web site is broken and no longer operates as it claims to. We are using the URLs they specify. Note that the site fails even when you click on the example on that page. It's not clear how we should proceed.-Arch dude (talk) 18:19, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

the 4-H pledge
I once belonged to the 4-H and I remember taking that pledge before every meeting, but your article doesn't show the full proper pledge as I can remember it; I am talking about the original pledge. Granted, it has been years and I can not remember exactly how it goes but I know for a fact the God was mentioned in the pledge. And I remember some of it saying that I pledge my head to greater thinking and my hand to greater service for God and my country. I never said anything about club or any such thing like that. Why did an original Christian organization drop God from their pledge.? This is sick and why do you not support the real and whole truth about the original pledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbyr55 (talk • contribs) 21:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If the article is not correct, you should comment on its talk page if you have independent reliable sources to support it(though personal recollections are not acceptable), but that page, or Wikipedia as a whole, is not for posting our opinions on any organization's views or beliefs. 331dot (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Contribuer à la page AS sonidep
Bonjour Je voudrais contribuer sur la page de l'AS Sonidep pour une plus grande visibilité du club. Notamment, par un sommaire comprenant : histoire du club, Palmarès, Parcours, Références J'ai créé un compte sur wiki

cordialement — Preceding unsigned comment added by KADERAFANE (talk • contribs) 21:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * This is the help desk for the English language Wikipedia. Try asking at the French help page:  RudolfRed (talk) 21:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)


 * S'il s'agit d'un article au Wikipedia anglais,, veuillez comprendre que "pour une plus grande visiblité" de n'importe quoi, n'a aucun rôle dans une encyclopédie. --ColinFine (talk) 23:39, 21 September 2018 (UTC)