Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 September 3

= September 3 =

Searching for links to specific section name anchors
So I've harangued two editors lately who changed article section names without thinking about fixing links to those individual section anchors. But now that I really want to change a section name myself I'm having trouble figuring out how to pursue finding possible references to that specific section name.

(It doesn't help that the article is on today's Main Page and so currently there are ~750 results to What links here, with all the places the main page is transcluded)

How would one go about finding just the direct links to a section Hamlet chicken processing plant fire? Some kind of "raw text" search, but which ignores the differences between the two possibilities:
 * Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire#References_as_a_textbook_example
 * Hamlet chicken processing plant fire#References as a textbook example

Shenme (talk) 01:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)


 * It looks like
 * linksto:"Hamlet chicken processing plant fire" insource:"references"
 * gets close to what I want. It finds no links to the section.  When I test with
 * linksto:"Hamlet chicken processing plant fire" insource:"actions"
 * that does find
 * ... the "Greensboro Four/A&T Four", who ...
 * demonstrating this works to find a link to a section name.


 * Any other suggestions? Shenme (talk) 05:49, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Using Twinkle for AFD
Recently I asked about an easy way to dominate an article for deletion and someone suggested using Twinkle. I activated it and read the documentation, but I still don't understand how to do it. I don't want to mess anything up so is it possible for someone to give me step by step instructions on how to nominate an article on "abcxyz" for deletion? Thanks. Sandals1 (talk) 14:54, 3 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi - I'll try to explain it the best I can.
 * Go to the page you want to nominate for deletion (obviously )
 * Go to the top toolbar on the page (which contains the edit, history, and move buttons), and scroll over the TW option with your mouse
 * You will now see a drop-down menu. XFD is third on the menu. Click that.
 * You will now see a variety of options. In most cases, you will want to leave the "Notify page creator if possible" option as checked, and leave the "Wrap deletion tag with " unchecked. You can optionally choose what category it belongs to from a drop-down list.
 * Put your reasoning in the box, using wiki markup as necessary. It's better to entered detailed reasoning, that cites relevant policies and guidelines, particularly notability ones.
 * You can optionally preview how the nomination will look on the articles for deletion page. Once you're done, click "Submit Query." When you do this, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/[abcxyz] will be created with the exact same text that the preview showed, and the AFD template will automatically be placed on the page that you nominated.
 * I hope this helps clarify things, and let me know if you need help with anything else or if this is confusing to you.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 15:00, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this looks like what I need. I will try this later and if I have questions I will ask them here.Sandals1 (talk) 15:37, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * That was easy. It would be better if I could enter more than one category, but using Twinkle was way better than following the AFD page directions.Sandals1 (talk) 17:24, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

"Socumentary" a documentary style film that investigates lost socks.
I made a short film called "Two go in...one comes out. A Socumentary" and I was doing a radio interview last night and we talked about the film. The Radio show host (Priscilla Leona of "Question Reality" Radio show) asked where the term 'Socumentary" came from and I told her I made it up. It means a film done in the style of a documentary which is about the "odd sock syndrome". Where in the film my character Corg Pontell investigated as to why when you put 2 socks in the dryer, a pair, you only get one back when you empty the dryer.

Here's a link to one of the articles on the film. http://nsaen.com/two-go-one-comes-socumentary/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Briantshirley (talk • contribs) 15:22, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

What is your question? If you are asking if this subject is suitable for a Wikipedia article then in my opinion the answer is "no". A subject must be notable (by our definition, not yours) to warrant an article. See WP:NOTABLE. -Arch dude (talk) 17:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

In today's lead news story
the fire in the National Museum of Brazil, or actually in the article about the museum, there is a meteorite that is 5,000 kg. How do I (or you?) add the conversion formula that will also include the weight in lbs? Thanks, Carptrash (talk) 16:23, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * template:convert and use 5000|kg|lb Rmhermen (talk) 16:45, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Carptrash (talk) 17:28, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

"F**k Songs". Is it OK for WP?
I am thinking of making an article about a type of greek folk songs called "gamotragouda" (literally f**k songs). Traditionally they are sang during carnival and have very rude lyrics, mentioning explicitly human genitalia and intercourse in a vulgar language. It is believed that this custom has it's roots in ancient Dionysian festivities. How can I translate the title in english? I see that the word "f**k" is in the title of several WP articles. Thanks for the answers.--Skylax30 (talk) 18:41, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Either WP:COMMONNAME or WP:NOTCENSORED is going to apply. If there are English language sources, use the term that the majority of those use (WP:NOTCENSORED).  I did a very small glance and didn't find anything, so just use the transliteration (rather than the translation) of the name (WP:COMMONNAME).
 * Make sure that the article cites and paraphrases summaries of professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources on the topic, instead of using original research -- that's the ultimate standard for what is or is not OK for Wikipedia. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:59, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

If the subject is notable, it warrants an article. See WP:Notable. You must find sources that demonstrate notability by our definition, not yours, and you must avoid "original research" (see WP:OR). If the best translation of "gamotragouda" is "fuck songs", then use "Fuck songs" as the article title. "F**k", (with asterisks) should only be used when it is a direct quote of the article subject, as in the album by Pink, because Wikipedia is not censored (WP:CENSORED). If the English phrase is cruder (in English) than the crudity (in Greek) of the original, then grab a thesaurus and find a synonym with the equivalent level of crudity. -Arch dude (talk) 19:08, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

thanks for the answers. The subject is certainly notable. These songs are analyzed in several ethnomusicology and journalistic articles in greek, and there is a lot of discography (records) on them.--Skylax30 (talk) 06:12, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

line numbers visible?
is there a quick way to locate a particular line on a wiki page while editing? i.e. can you get it to display line numbers along the side for example? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yororipas (talk • contribs) 18:54, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Line numbers aren't consistent. When I look at Brazil on my laptop using Firefox, line 1 ends with "Latin America. At" and line two begins with "8.5 million..."  When I look at the same article on my phone, the first line ends with "(Brasil )," and the second line begins with "officially the..."  When I look at the same article on Chrome (which I configured to use to show other people articles), the first line ends with "(Portuguese: República" and the second line begins with "Federativa do Brasil,..." Ian.thomson (talk) 19:04, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

OK I see thank you. I am workign on my first article, So when someone says' "line 56 has been deteted due to using copyright material", I cannot easily fine the line they mean! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yororipas (talk • contribs) 19:19, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Please do not ask the same question in multiple places. Asking again: where did anyone else than you refer to "line 56"? By the way, last time it was line 54, so you might remember something that did not happen. Tigraan Click here to contact me 07:36, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for asking more than once and getting the line number wrong. I am still learning how to do all this. The priniciple was simply to find out if there wqas a quick way of finding a particular line, whatever its number, and apparantly there is not. So when someone altered me to a line that was problematic, it was hard to locate what thwey actually meant. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yororipas (talk • contribs) 07:48, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * As far as I can see, User:Diannaa has left a message at your talk page which clearly defines which information violates copyright (specifically: those copied from 4.1 IN MEMORIAM.pdf). You can also see the page history ... --CiaPan (talk) 08:33, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

delete page i created
Hello I would like to delete a page I created, its a biography of myself. I have tried to delete but it keeps reappearing. from esham jb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.132.172.194 (talk) 11:34, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello I would like to delete a page I created, its a biography of myself. I have tried to delete but it keeps reappearing.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobathedread1888 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Because once you created it, you irrevocably donated it  to this project. You can request that be deleted but you do not own it so you can’t just take it back, regardless of whether it is about you or not. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you also edited using the account "PaulHughMclinden"? If so you should read WP:ACCN and make the necessary edits in respect of disclosures / links. Please take care using alternative accounts as doing so counter-productively could well lead to the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Assuming the article is Paul McLinden, I do not think a WP:G7 (speedy request for deletion by sole author) would fly as this series of edits seems significant. One could bring it to the usual place to discuss articles to delete, but from a quick look at the sources I do not see that going obviously either way. Tigraan Click here to contact me 07:33, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

United States Senate special election in Massachusetts, 2013
Hi,

In United States Senate special election in Massachusetts, 2013, concerning both the Democratic and Republican primaries, there is each time a blank column in the results boards. Can someone fix that please? Thanks.

WhatsUpWorld (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Massachusetts,_2013&diff=857928117&oldid=857924639] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Pippa Middleton
Sorry - tried  to  make  file  (photo)  smaller  -  I  failed. please restore page. thanks203.132.68.1 (talk) 23:15, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed. In future, you can undo your edits yourself by using the 'undo' button visible in on the diff page.  Tera TIX  23:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)