Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 December 29

= December 29 =

Uttar Pradesh Police
Verified account says Wikipedia page is vandalised https://twitter.com/Uppolice/status/1211214888908902400  AntonyGonzalveZ (talk) 10:09, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at this. It was vandalized, but was changed to be non-neutral the other way. 331dot (talk) 10:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I removed the dubious self-published claim that it would be the "biggest police force in the world" - the People's Armed Police is certainly bigger, and why wouldn't it be considered a "single police force"? + added tags and  tag, 11 of 16 sources are primary. Wakari07 (talk) 17:17, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Sandbox

 * Header added by ColinFine (talk) 12:56, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello. I have a page in my sandbox. I have an account that is older than a year and have made multiple edits. I want to move this page out of my sandbox to publish it. I do not have a "more" tab next to the star in the top right corner of my page and am trying to figure out how to move it. Any help would be appreciated. Bjattari (talk) 12:21, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Your account is ten years old, but it appears you have only made six edits, so your account is not autoconfirmed and you cannot Move pages. When you have made four more edits you will be able to move pages; but please do not move your sandbox to main space, because it is not ready: it will either get moved back or deleted. The problem is that you have not got a single reference, and so the article is incapable of establishing that the station meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Please read WP:REFB and find some reliable published sources, wholly independent of the station, and cite them as appropriate. You should also remove the external links from the body of the draft, but that is not so crucial. --ColinFine (talk) 13:01, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Wrong deleting
Hello,

Someone is keep deleting a true fact about Holocaust and number of people killed on this page Blagaj massacre

Can you please investigate and let me know how can we keep the facts? It was 545 Serbs, It was Holocaust and my grandfather was the only survivor. He build the monument for all the victims. I am the living source and minimizing a true about Holocaust and genocide is not what WIKI is about.

Thank you, Ana Kuzmanovic — Preceding unsigned comment added by TraumaFacts (talk • contribs) 14:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia only cares about what reliable sources say about an event. You knowing something is not something we would use, as it is original research. If there are reliable sources that say this is the amount, then this would be useful to add, however, just stating that you are the "living source" is not adequate. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:32, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * What Lee Vilenski said. If you want to try to change this article in a way that "sticks" you can try to discuss it with other editors at Talk:Blagaj massacre. Click "New section" at that page and make your case, and bring the WP:Reliable sources that supports your suggestions. Preferably good historybooks. WP-stuff is discussed on WP-pages, not via private e-mail. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

HiLee Vilenski,

Are you really serious in saying you are just a living source?! How do you think all the facts are collected from Holocaust? Do you think they took all the bones from the gas chambers in Auszwits and count them? Seriously, you should not work in Wiki or dismiss such a serious facts.

Again, If I am granddaughter of only survivor and he knew, as my father does, how many people were slaughter and it is 545 then you need to take this fact as reliable resource. You think Somme will full around with victims?

Second, I wrote at the begining this was a Holocaust. Why Holocaust is deleted? Explain.

Third: Why is my grandfather name, who is only survivor, deleted? Do you need a written rescuer about this or life source is not enough for you?

Fourth : Do I need to spin this on social media as an Wiki antisemitic doing so you Lee can take this more seriously?

Ana — Preceding unsigned comment added by TraumaFacts (talk • contribs) 23:23, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Islamic punishment on adultery
Your punishment on adultery is completely wrong. There is no stoning to death in Islam. And repentance can nullify a punishment. Not just faith, a real law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.98.222.51 (talk) 15:24, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Could you tell us which Wikipedia article you believe is incorrect? Have you read our well-referenced article Rajm?  Dbfirs  16:10, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

expand citation bot
is the citation bot down... https://tools.wmflabs.org/citations/process_page.php?edit=toolbar&slow=1&page=Attribution_questionnaire..?Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:29, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like it. To my knowledge, it's run by (I could be wrong, it could just be the script I use). If it's a more general issue, perhaps WP:VP/T would be a better place? I've found tools to be down now and again, so it could be maintenance, or the pinged user may know more. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 16:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's citation bot so: ...
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:08, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Missing tracking category
Johan de Ridder is using, but the corresponding tracking category doesn't exist. I don't see anything wrong, so did the category get deleted or never created? MB 17:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Either way, I created it. Empty categories are prone to being speedily deleted, so I added as per WP:C1. Wakari07 (talk) 18:05, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas Everyone
Information on a record released in 1986 is completely wrong.Considering it was a Christmas no one I would of thought it would of been researched correctly.I am one of the writers but have never been asked to provide information.My name is Darrell Edwards NOT Dave Edwards and Bruce Roberts now deceased was not American.The track was called With My Heart b/side of Merry Christmas Everyone.I have never received a platinum record and also never been allowed to have accountants(that my contract says I am allowed to every year)look at the books on sales,so to have wrong information about me is a bit like rubbing salt in the wound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.86.20 (talk) 20:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia allows and encourages anonymous editing. We have neither the means nor the inclination to know and verify the identity of an editor or a commenter such as yourself. As a direct consequence, we must insist that facts be referenced to cited reliable sources: See WP:V and WP:RS. If you can provide a reference to such a source, please do so on the talk page of the affected article. If there are any assertions in the article that are not referenced to a reliable source, those assertions should be removed. Nobody from Wikipedia will contact you: that's not how we (nor any other encyclopedia) operates. -Arch dude (talk) 22:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Apparently discogs has a link to Dave Edwards. On the other hand, the cassette release page on the same site lists Darrell. hungama.com and 45worlds.com also list Darrell. Also I found no source for the nationality of Bruce Roberts, only a site reservoir.com that claims he'd be "based in Los Angeles". Anyway, this is a matter for discussion on the relevant talk pages Talk:Merry Christmas Everyone and Talk:Bruce Roberts (singer). As there's reasonable doubt in my opinion and the facts are unreferenced, I modified the first fact and added a tag on the second. Wakari07 (talk) 03:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Random page within categories and subcategories tool
Special:RandomInCategory/Random page in category

Is there any way to get the Random Page in Category tool to include subcategories? e.g. for the Music category, this would include all songs, albums,performances etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C541:CC60:3073:FD3A:38BF:C7B (talk) 20:06, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Just want to make one change—
—without learning how to edit. It’s just that on:

List of late-night American network TV programs

there’s no listing for Jimmy Kimmel Live, even though the show has its own page:

Jimmy Kimmel Live!

Could someone else add it? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9758:B290:C46F:A0CF:4C20:A2C0 (talk) 22:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

It's in the "Current" section of that page. You must be looking at the "Past" section in the same page. --AlainV (talk) 23:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Requested moves and Twinkle
Is it possible to nominate two or more pages to be moved using Twinkle (without doing it manually)? Please ping me in your reply. Interstellarity (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Not possible yet, but you could suggest this at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle. – Thjarkur (talk) 00:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Just did. Interstellarity (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)