Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 February 1

= February 1 =

How do I delete my Questions which have been answered?
How do I delete my Questions which have been answered? DaveD David Desmond (talk) 00:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Typically, they are not deleted, but archived, in case others have the same questions. 331dot (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * As a courtesy, it is a good idea to add a template -- which renders as:  —2606:A000:1126:28D:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 04:42, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Potternewton
Ref number 36 needs  a title which is the  death   i.e Obituary of Mrs Anne Greenhow (née Lupton)  -  but I  cannot re-place it in the citation. Please, please assist if you  can  and thanks. 123.3.220.144 (talk) 06:40, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've added the title to the reference :) --IrnBruFan7 (talk) 08:00, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * SB, the title according to the source is 'Mrs. Anne Greenhow of Leeds'. I have amended it. It has been mentioned previously that source titles should not be 'adapted'. Eagleash (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

username and password
My username was created by Wiki but now it says it is not recognised. I want to change my password but cannot see where this can be done. Failing this will result in me terminating my support and membership of Wikimedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kfoto48 (talk • contribs) 09:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The link to change your password is at Special:Preferences, accessible from the "Preferences" link at the top of every Wikipedia page. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You are logged in so I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean that User:Kfoto48 says "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title" then it does not mean your username is not recognised. It just means you haven't created a user page for your account. This is optional and many users have no user page. You may need a working password to set a new password. If you don't have a working pasword then you can use Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Not helpful at all. So will not be contributing anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.115.68 (talk) 15:48, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * So it's our fault you don't understand basic login principles? Well, good riddance, then.
 * Your user name is Kfoto48.
 * PrimeHunter told you how to reset your password.
 * That was helpful and for you to say otherwise is ungrateful to the point of trolling. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Naming conventions for articles about churches
Hi - is there a naming convention for church articles. I'm specifically interested in whether an article is better named as: I've had a look but am unable to locate specific guidance on this issue. Thanks. KJP1 (talk) 12:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Church of St Mary, Xtown or
 * St Mary's Church, Xtown?


 * What does the church call itself? Try their website or noticeboard. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's less about that, and more about a consistent approach. I'm interested in these articles, Grade I listed buildings in Monmouthshire and Grade II* listed buildings in Monmouthshire, where both approaches have been taken by editors, including myself! If there's not a convention, no worries, I shall go for consistency. KJP1 (talk) 12:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Is consistency more important than accuracy? I can see a problem where the church uses one form and Cadw another though. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:59, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure it's a question of accuracy, more one of style. St Cadoc's Church, Raglan, and the Church of St Cadoc, Raglan, are both accurate, they're just different ways of styling the church. KJP1 (talk) 13:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

No official naming convention has ever been established, although there have been sporadic attempts. The best-documented example I can find is Naming conventions (architecture), which is marked as Inactive and has Essay status. Summarising the main points from that:
 * 1) Saint or dedication name first: "St. Mary's Church, Preston Park" rather than "Church of St. Mary, Preston Park"
 * 2) For saint dedications, use "St." instead of "St" or "Saint"
 * 3) "Entity" name (Church, Abbey, Chapel etc.) capitalised: "Bethel Chapel, Guildford", rather than "Bethel chapel, Guildford"
 * 4) Location disambiguator should follow a comma: "Christ Church, Ore" rather than "Christ Church (Ore)", "Ore, Christ Church", "Christ Church Ore" etc.

I have been writing church articles for about 10 years. In my experience, point (1) has gone through cycles where "Church of ..." has been preferred and then "... Church" has been preferred. It seems that "... Church" has become established as the preference (it is also my preference). Point (2), I think, no longer applies: it seems that "St" without dot has become the de facto standard, and indeed I seem to remember a lot of page moves were made some time ago to move articles with "St." to "St" (certainly on British church articles). Points (3) and (4) are still broadly followed, and I go by these conventions.

Obviously there are some subtleties and sensible exceptions: for example, for the many Roman Catholic churches dedicated to Our Lady + suffix, the form e.g. "Our Lady of the Assumption's Church, Bosham" would be ungainly at best (and would never be used in practice) and either "Church of Our Lady of the Assumption, Bosham" or simply "Our Lady of the Assumption, Bosham" would be better.

Hope that helps a bit. If there is interest in reviving and potentially introducing a formal naming convention, I would be interested in helping. Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * - very helpful indeed and good to hear from you. Hope you're keeping well. I suspected there wasn't a formal policy, but it's very useful to have it confirmed. As to whether there should be, while I think it would be helpful, I have grave doubts it would get off the ground. And the renaming exercise would be considerable. Interestingly, I prefer Church of X to X Church, so we don't even agree! All the best. KJP1 (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * KJP1, FWIW, our churches with FA status all use "St Whatever, Wherever" as the name style Jimfbleak - talk to me?  16:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Just for fun, consider the naming issues in The Cathedral Church of Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary, Rochester! For that matter, many non-conformist churches and chapels do not have a dedication and are simply known as "  Church"; as a random example take Bingham Methodist Church Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * - Jim - many thanks, that’s useful to bear in mind. KJP1 (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I've also been thinking about this for a while and some time ago I started putting together a very sketchy idea for a proposal in this sandpit. To boil it down, I think the convention for churches in the UK should follow the pattern St John's Church, Johnston. (Wikipedia seems to prefer "St." to "St" for anything American. No firm thoughts on how to do it for other English-speaking countries.) This is the more concise style, and I think most other dedications should follow along the same lines – i.e. All Saints' Church, All Souls' Church, Holy Cross Church, Holy Trinity Church... If this starts to become unnatural – mainly for longer dedications – then I agree Hassocks above about switching to "Church of...", e.g. in Church of St Thomas of Canterbury and the English Martyrs, Preston. Ham II (talk) 15:25, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

information
I have viewed this written content on the Hungarian history and wish to state that it needs the information that had been passed down to me by the family. How do I do this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.249.143.50 (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Information on Wikipedia needs to come from reliable, published, sources. See WP:RS, WP:OR and WP:V. Information passed down through your family would not meet those criteria, so any contributions based on that would be deleted. Matt Deres (talk) 13:32, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Request Edit to: Thunderbirds Are Go (TV series)
Thunderbirds tv series was originally aired in England in the 1960's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9001:3C00:E00:9EC:EFF3:3464:D0CD (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello! The great thing about Wikipedia is that if you notice an error, you can fix it!.  However, in this specific case, thast fact is mentioned in the first sentence of the Background section.  So as far as I can see, nothing needs to be done.  If you think something more needs to be done, you can ask here again, or on the article talk page, or you can fix it yourself. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 13:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Navy Federal Credit Union
Navy Federal Credit Union's Wikipedia page states that the credit union is headquartered in Jacksonville, Florida; however, this is factually incorrect. The credit union is headquartered in Vienna, Virginia.

Navy Federal Credit Union

76.100.38.159 (talk) 16:32, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Done - I changed this detail and added a source. One minor point: please post future edit requests at the article's talkpage Talk:Navy Federal Credit Union. Thank you for pointing this out. GermanJoe (talk) 17:36, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Restricting edits in user manual wiki.
The software, many of us are using,lacks both a complete user manual and a hints page. I would like to start one but have a problem with editing by people who do not know the ins and outs of the software. This is realized by some posts to the forum page that have erroneous information.

Is there a way one person to coordinate and restrict the individual edits? Thank you. 17:12, 1 February 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knotian (talk • contribs)
 * It's not entirely clear what you're asking about. Are you asking for help editing Wikipedia?  Help running a website using MediaWiki software? Or about one of our articles?  As far as I can see, this edit to the help desk is the only edit you've made on Wikipedia. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Altering an image
Wikipedia is using two graphs that have a mistake in them. They are https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Costcurve_-_Marginal_Cost_2.svg and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_curve#/media/File:Costcurve_-_Combined.svg In both cases the vertical axis is labeled “Price”, whereas it should be labeled “$”.

How do I get this fixed? (I have no imaging skills, and I can’t figure out how to ask on the author’s Commons talk page; in any event, I think the author hasn’t edited for over six months, so he’s probably not checking his talk page any more.) Loraof (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You can download the image and edit the text, either using an svg editor or a text editor. However, using "$" as a label does seem a bit US-centric, maybe "Cost" would be better. Danski454 (talk) 22:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Best citation template for documents filed in federal district court case?
I'm a longtime Wikipedian, but I haven't been a very active editor in the past decade or so, and my citation skills have gotten a bit rusty. I'm wanting to update a BLP article, and use as a source a sworn declaration the article's subject gave as an expert witness in a federal court case: specifically, the declarations of Daniel W. Smith, entered as evidence here and here, as well as the judge's decision, which referred to "the exceptionally credible declaration of Daniel Smith". But I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know the best template or format to use to cite documents used in a court case, or court decisions. Does anybody have any pointers? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:03, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not expert on citations, but I think Cite_court may be what you want. RudolfRed (talk) 19:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I think that will do. If anybody else has a better suggestion, please let me know, but for now I think this is resolved. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Help me!
Hi I just started to edit the subject Leather, I made 19 edits and none is shown in the Leather. The 19 edits show in my Contributions list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather

Guapotan (talk) 19:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Your edits were undone because they were poorly written and unsourced. See WP:Verifiability. Ruslik_ Zero 19:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Astralwerks New Logo
Hi - can someone please update the Astralwerks page to use the new logo? https://shop.astralwerks.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicolee2492 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Convenience link. † dismas †|(talk) 20:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Convenience link. † dismas †|(talk) 20:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Also adding in the new official bio if we can add: Source: https://www.linkedin.com/company/astralwerks/ Established in New York City and now finding its new home in the historical Capitol Records Tower in Los Angeles, Astralwerks was the brainchild of staffers at Caroline Records who saw an opportunity for a label focused on the emerging electronic and ambient scene.

Having reached a milestone of 25 years, Astralwerks has quickly become a modern, artist-first label with a true focus on nurturing talent across the electronic genre and beyond. Acting with a scalable, independent and global thinking mentality with the capability to tap into the resources of a major label, has allowed the label to retain and sign burgeoning artists such as Marshmello, Illenium, Jonas Blue, Alison Wonderland, EDEN, Sigma and Axwell /\ Ingrosso.

As a testament to this pioneering approach, Astralwerks has amassed 30 GRAMMY nominations, taken home six GRAMMY Awards and have had historic releases to date from the likes of The Chemical Brothers, Swedish House Mafia, Halsey, Porter Robinson, Phoenix, Eric Prydz, Fatboy Slim and many more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicolee2492 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Nicolee2492, the promotional tone of that text is entirely unsuitable for an objective encyclopedia, as is usually the case for publicity material. Wikipedia maintains a neutral point of view, and may utilise information supplied by the subject of an article (typically from its website or publications) to corroborate minor uncontroversial facts, like current names, addresses, and dates, but the substantial bulk of an article must be based on and cited to material published by independent third parties who are regarded as Reliable sources.
 * If you have information you would like added to (or removed from) an article for which you have a conflict of interest, you are welcome to place a request on its Talk page so that a disinterested editor can assess it. You should also make a declaration on your User page* of being a paid editor regarding any article from whose subject you receive a salary or other form of renumeration.
 * (* You have not yet activated your User page, but you can do so merely by clicking on your red signature and then typing something.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.251.247 (talk) 23:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Can you please update the profile image to the new logo?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.249.90.65 (talk) 19:51, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

IP vandalism
Hi, if vandalism from an IP account is reverted, can a vandalism warning template be placed on the IP address Talk page? thanks - Epinoia (talk) 21:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not, as long as you are sure it's vandalism, as defined by the guidelines Vandalism. Keep in mind that IP addresses may be shared, and the message may not be read by the intended person. I've gotten warning alerts when visiting Wikipedia on my cell phone but those go away once I log in. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  21:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * It's up to you whether or not you want to leave them. If the vandalism is old, then warning the IP probably won't be read by whoever performed the vandalism since that IP address will probably have been reassigned to someone else. Occasionally the Help Desk here will see questions from people saying "Why am I being told I vandalized Wikipedia when I only just came here for the first time?" Unless a vandal is active right at the time I'm leaving the warning, I normally don't bother warning anyone. † dismas †|(talk) 21:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I would like to apologize in advance but some opportunities are too good to be passed up. I support registration because of issues such as above. Otr500 (talk) 00:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)