Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 February 7

= February 7 =

Timeline with diagonal lines? (relisted)
(I've relisted this question as the previous version was marked resolved and about to be archived anyway.)

Three days ago, User:Larshei asked about an issue with the timeline at Foo Fighters:

User:John of Reading's edit did seem to fix the problem. But strangely, the issue has now reappeared, even though there have only been two edits since: which did not reintroduce the issue, and then, which did nothing but revert the previous one, bringing the page back to exactly how it was after John of Reading's "fix edit" - but somehow reintroduced the issue! Can anyone figure out what's going on here? -Elmer Clark (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The timeline feature is known to sometimes produce images with such diagonal bars. If you change anything which affects the image then a new image is generated, usually without the error. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:16, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I did a purge action on the page (essentially it's invoking the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foo_Fighters&action=purge which is available as 'purge', or '*', along the 'edit this page', 'history' end 'watch' links), and it seems to have helped for me. --CiaPan (talk) 06:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah that seems to have worked, thanks. I can't say I'm confident it won't randomly appear again though. -Elmer Clark (talk) 20:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, possibly it will, as says it's a known bug (or feature) of a timeline feature. Hopefully purging will turn out a simpler and more reliable method of fixing things than random edits. :) --CiaPan (talk) 21:30, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

my new page was declined: this was not communicated to me and I do not understand why
Hello Wikipedia,

I submitted a new page for review a few weeks ago. According to a third party (who wanted me to PAY HER to 'fix' the page, Tamsin Kelly), the page was declined. Is this true? This has not been communicated to me. and if it has been declined, how to I find out why. The page is about an academic here in The Netherlands (Utrecht University) with international students which is why it needs to be published in the English language Wikipedia. The academic's name is . Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagouttenoire (talk • contribs) 09:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The fact that the submission was declined, and the reasons, were clearly explained to you both on the draft page and on your user talk page. The words in blue in the messages are wikilinks to further information if you need it. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * This refers to Draft:Emile Wennekes which has as far as I can see no real references at all. Britmax (talk) 09:51, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Draft:Emile Wennekes was declined because it had no sources at all. Please read WP:Referencing for beginners.  Please note that editors here are volunteers, and will not ask for payment.   Dbfirs  09:53, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * and it violates the verifiability policy. ― Abelmoschus Esculentus  ( talk •  contribs ) 09:56, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Text Error: David Stuart Clarke
Hi - There is text on Wikipedia’s content page for David Stuart Clarke the prior chairman of an Australian investment bank (Macquarie Bank) suggesting he was involved in a major European fraud. This appears to be an error and should be corrected.

Thanks, Ryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.107.131 (talk) 09:58, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ This appears to be an unsourced disruptive addition. I have removed it. Eagleash (talk) 10:09, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

My wikipedia page
Hello

I tried to upload an author photo of myself, but couldn't follow all the questions, as it was my own photo, but it seems that the attempt has ended up being rejected because Wikipedia thinks the photo copywrite belongs to someone else, which it doesn't. Anyway, I don't mind not having the photo up. But the problem now is that my page (Rosetta Allan) has a warning up that someone may have put information up for payment. Which isn't true. Can someone look into this for me? I'd really like this warning removed. I really appreciate your help on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poetryrose (talk • contribs) 10:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It is not your page, but Wikipedia's page about you. Before doing any more editing to that page you must read WP:AUTOBIOG and WP:COI.  Apart from removing minor inaccuracies, you should request changes on the pages talk page and allow a disinterested editor to asses the changes and implement them.  Remember that any information you ask to be added must satisfy the WP:BLP policy and be quoted in a reliable third party source. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Should also note that the copyright typically belongs to the photographer. Eagleash (talk) 14:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I need help moving a page.
I got a message on my talk page saying that I need to fix my copy-and-paste move of Escape from Hell (2001 film) to Escape from Hell (2000 film). The reason I moved this page from 2001 to 2000 in the first place was because this movie came out in 2000, not ‘01. I tried to move the info from the 2000 “copy-and-pasted” page I made back to the 2001 page I turned into a redirect, and then move it back to the 2000 page with the move tool. This didn’t work however, and I need help. - Stinkyjaden (talk) 14:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)Stinkyjaden
 * Oh dear, . You appear to be right about the year, but the way to move an article to a different title is to Move it - copy and paste is rarely appropriate within Wikipedia. I think you realised this, and tried to go back; but only an admin can move a page over a redirect. Don't worry about making mistakes: they're always reparable, and most people won't criticise you for honest mistakes.
 * On the other hand, the article is probably going to be deleted, because it does not cite any reliable independent sources (neither iMDB - user generated - nor commercial sites are generally regarded as reliable). Unless somebody can find and cite some reliable published sources about the film, wholly independent of the films producers and cast, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article about it, because it will fail NFILM notability. --ColinFine (talk) 15:24, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have made a history merge to credit Stinkyjaden in the page history for edits made after the copy-paste move. I have not evaluated whether the article should be deleted. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:01, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. I’ll do my very best to find some sources covering this movie. I will say this, the link I referenced (ReelChristian.com) is the official site for the film company that made Escape from Hell.
 * - Stinkyjaden (talk) 16:41, 7 February 2019 (UTC)Stinkyjaden
 * Hi, .Please note that the film company's site should be considered a WP:PRIMARY source. Although it surely provides the most accurate and complete data about the cast, plot, timeline etc., it will probably not count as a third-party, independent source for artistic, cultural and social impact of the movie. And independent, reliable sources about the reception and impact are required to show the movie's notability. --CiaPan (talk) 17:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * In general,, Wikipedia is simply not interested in what anybody says about their own film (or themselves, or their relatives, or their company, or their band, etc). It is only interested in what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about it - and if nobody independent has done so, then neither will Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:40, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Glitched page
This page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tetra_Pak has a glitch it makes the text unreadable and zooms the page out on a tablet or other device with small screen please fix I do not know how to fix it Cvxs (talk) 16:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have removed a whole line of asterisks, that I think would have been the problem, . Thanks for pointing it out. --ColinFine (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Circular redirecting
Could someone who knows about these things kindly look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Francis_Parker_Newdigate&action=history I feel that clicking a link on an article should not redirect to the article.... Paul venter (talk) 17:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have removed a circular redirect from Newdigate baronets. Maproom (talk) 17:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

monitoring downloads
Is there a way to see who has downloaded content from the wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay.r.gordon (talk • contribs) 20:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , no, that would be a severe privacy violation. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 20:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , You can look at pageview statistics via the button on the history page WelpThatWorked (talk) 18:14, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

WP:R#PLA
In WP:R, it says: "It may also be helpful to search the List of Categories for related terms; adding a hatnote and a category link to the old term will make related pages easier to locate." — But what exactly is the old term referring to?--Hildeoc (talk) 21:34, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The title of the redirect. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:12, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for posting, but why exactly do you think it refers to "the redirect"? In what respect is it "the old term"?--Hildeoc (talk) 22:16, 8 February 2019 (UTC)