Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 July 15

= July 15 =

Creating a dab page
I suspect (being an IP) that I cannot create a disambiguation page; but, I was wondering if there's a minimum number of potentially ambiguous entries before a dab page is created. Specifically: Thornfield & Thornfield, Missouri & Thornfield Hall (default is the 1st one: a horse). Is there a place for requesting a dab page creation? 2606:A000:1126:28D:E5B5:B088:3A46:1619 (talk) 04:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Three generally, though in a pinch two is enough if there is no clearcut WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. There's no place to request one AFAIK, but I'll get on it. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

wimbledon championships
the page listing mens si gkes champions has omited John McEnroe as multiple champion. Sorry, I am too inexoerienced to edit myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:A182:8C00:C881:107:9BD9:6463 (talk) 07:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You should have posted this at the article talk page. Nonetheless I looked at List of Wimbledon gentlemen's singles champions and there was John McEnroe 15th from the top. Looks good to me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Images / drafts
What is the correct way to upload my images to wikimedia without them getting deleted due to copyright? They are my images - how can I prove that?
 * This is really a question for Wikimedia Commons, not for us here at English-language Wikipedia. But if the copyright of an image is really yours (e.g. because you took it yourself), it's just a matter of filling in the upload form correctly. Maproom (talk) 08:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * However, if the picture you took is of a copyrighted work, such as a film poster, then it will not be accepted at Wikimedia (unless you can prove that you are also the creator or copyright-owner of the poster itself). Maproom (talk) 08:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Also what is the average wait time to find out whether a draft article will be accepted?

Lastly, if an image which I embedded into my article has now been deleted (due to copyright), will my draft article also be rejected?
 * The presence or absence of an image in an article is most unlikely to have any effect on whether it is accepted or rejected. Maproom (talk) 08:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HSCollins (talk • contribs) 08:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Drafts are reviewed in no particular order by volunteers who do what they can when they can. It could be reviewed in ten minutes, or three months from now. It's hard to say how long it will take, but it likely will be weeks as there are thousands of drafts waiting for review. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, the best way to upload images is via Commons here. Click upload image on the left of the page. It will ask you to declare that the image is your own work.
 * There are currently nearly 4,000 drafts awaiting review. It could take 2 months or more but there is no set order and drafts can be accepted in a matter of days or less.
 * The article would not be rejected overall if an image was copy-vio. However, it would not be accepted if other content was found to be copyright.
 * Eagleash (talk) 08:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Overwhelmed, & Confused:
Hope all is well,

I'm overwhelmed, & confused in regards to formatting a "notability" Wikipedia page. I had truly thought that I followed all of the proper guidelines in reference to concocting an unbias written approach, in conjunction to providing structured, verifiable accolades, & work citations […] but yet, I was flagged (if you will). :-(

I'm querying you, because (1.), I would like to know if my work is completely lost in cyber-space, & (2.), can you please do provide any suggestions, or a more detailed explanation as to why I did not meet the requirements for your site. I would love to correct my wrongs, & get a better understanding as to how I can strengthen the said written contribution. I sincerely believe in doing my part with egalitarianism, order, & justice within the Wikipedia community, & understand, & respect the fact that you have a great deal of experience on this platform. Thank you for your time, & energy pertaining to this matter.

Best Wishes,

Hope — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yumi4us (talk • contribs) 12:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * , it's hard to tell what you are asking about. You only have two surviving contributions to English-language Wikipedia, at least while signed in with that name: your question above and one on the talk page of . I don't know what you mean by 'a "notability" Wikipedia page' – The subject of a Wikipedia article must be notable, we don't apply the word to the article itself. And notability is not related to or dependent on formatting. Maproom (talk) 13:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Greetings. As per your  contribution log, you have only 2 edits. None of the edit you made is pretending to "Pennsylvania State University graduate, & young hip-hop/rap artist from Connecticut" which you mentioned in your first edit here. For such it would difficult for us to help you. Perhaps you have edited using an IP address. Pls provide the article name and which version of edit (history different) (on the history page of the article). Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes . Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk)


 * The Global contributions listing Yumi4us • en.wikipedia.org says the user made 4 edits, one of which survived (which is not accurate: Special:Contributions/Yumi4us shows two) and 3 have been deleted. Possibly they mean one (or even all) of those three deleted edits...? But seeing them requires higher rights, e.g. Admin or Checkuser: Special:DeletedContributions/Yumi4us. --CiaPan (talk) 13:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The deleted page was User:Yumi4us, see the deletion log entry. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * you created a Wikipedia user page about yourself, not a Wikipedia article. the purpose of a user page is very different than an article and has different rules. It's supposed to tell other Wikipedia editors about how you intend to contribute to Wikipedia. You do not need to be notable to have a user page, but the page is not supposed to be about your whole life, just about how you will edit Wikipedia. See WP:USERPAGE. By contrast, an article must be about a notable subject. See WP:N. If you yourself are a notable subject by our definition, then you can have an article about yourself, but you cannot write it yourself. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. -Arch dude (talk) 14:55, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It wasn't an autobiography. It was a highly promotional page about someone else. As such, it met criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD and WP:CSD).  -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

"This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it"
Hi there,

I published an article about a Memorial to R. Wallenberg in Gothenburg ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Memorial_to_Raoul_Wallenberg_in_the_City_of_Gothenburg ), but I had (and still have) a message displayed just above the article stating that "This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it". So I added to this article a link to the article on swedish Wikipedia about the same subject. After I did that - the link to that article on Swedish wikipedia appeared at the bottom of my article but that message (just above the article) that "This article is an orphan" still remains. I would be very grateful if you told me how to make it go away or if you could remove it yourself. Thanks in advance.

Sergeismart (talk) 14:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * As Orphan explains, an orphan is not an article, which contains no links to other articles, but rather an article which is not linked from other articles. So to de-orphan you article you would need to find related articles, which may link to A Memorial to Raoul Wallenberg in the City of Gothenburg (they may be, for example, Raoul Wallenberg or Charlotte Gyllenhammar) and add links to it there. --CiaPan (talk) 14:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, that refers to the fact that the page is not linked in other articles. I.e. it is not mentioned in other Wikipedia articles or if it is, it is not linked. You would need to search for pages where there is a mention and link it to the page you created. Links are made using the double square brackets not typed out in full as above. A 'pipe' can be used where necessary. Per WP:ORPHAN three incoming links is the ideal but just one can result in the removal; of the tag (which has to be done manually). Eagleash (talk) 15:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * A Memorial to Raoul Wallenberg in the City of Gothenburg has no incoming links from other articles on the English Wikipedia, so it is considered an "orphan". To change this, go to other article in the English Wikipedia and add appropriate links. Please do not simply add a line in the "see also" section of the other article. Instead, add a sentence in the appropriate location in the text. good candidates articles are Raoul Wallenberg and Gothenburg. However, your article is likely to be recommended for deletion because it does not have evidence of notability: see WP:N. Please add citations to reliable sources (WP:RS) such as articles in major newspapers that are specifically about this monument. (And thanks for the article. That's an interesting monument.)  If the article is proposed for deletion, please consider merging it into the Wallenberg article. -Arch dude (talk) 15:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You can click 'find link tool' in the 'tag' which may help to find appropriate articles. Eagleash (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Flickr Upload Creative Commons Licence help
Can I upload a picture from Flickr to Wikipedia that's under the CC licence, Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)? Here's the link to the picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wickenden/63315651/. - Stinkyjaden (talk) 15:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Stinkyjaden
 * Images with non-commerical licenses, regardless of their source, are not acceptable on Wikipedia, so no. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Removing / Updating Content Error
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rutland

Our Founder has requested our office to remove a substantial amount of information to update his page bio with only the information he wants. We ran into this error:

Error: Your action has triggered an edit filter	An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, so it has been disallowed. '''Please do not remove all the text of Wikipedia pages. The resulting blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they confuse readers.''' If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If this edit is constructive, please report this error.

If this page is duplicate of another, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If this page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of this page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content or leave a message on the talk page. If you believe this page should be deleted altogether, please see articles for deletion for information on how to proceed. If this page is a biography of a living person that is problematic, please report the problem at the noticeboard. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk.

How do we get around this? Thanks

Global Servants (talk) 17:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You don't get around it. Your Founder does not get to control the content of the article.  Please read also WP:COI and WP:PAID RudolfRed (talk) 17:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You and your founder might wish to read An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. -Arch dude (talk) 17:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, you need to use a different user name. See WP:USERNAME. A user name must be used by a single individual, not a group, and your username implies group usage. Since you have only made one edit, it's simpler to just abandon your existing user name and start with a new one. You still need to adhere to WP:PAID to comply with the terms of service to edit Wikipedia. Note also that the article in question is not "his article". It's our page about him.-Arch dude (talk) 17:45, 15 July 2019 (UTC).


 * That's a feature, not an error. That said, after having read the linked guidance above, consider suggesting changes at the article talkpage, Talk:Mark Rutland. You can also try asking for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity/Noticeboard. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)