Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 July 21

= July 21 =

Removed "on" from phrasal verb
I try to avoid coming here for grammatical edits, but there's this from the article "Shadhavar":

"Horns of those creatures, sometimes gifted to kings, can be played on like flutes."

I removed the word "on" from this sentence. Could anyone please tell me if that's okay?--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:22, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * It's not a common phrasing but it's not ungrammatical. † dismas †|(talk) 01:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * One can play an instrument, or one can play on an instrument, but I agree that the article is better without the extra preposition.  Dbfirs  09:54, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Discovered overly long paragraph
In the article on the Petronas Towers, in the section "History and architecture", the fourth paragraph is much too long. I think the best place to split it would be at the sentence beginning with "As a result of the Malaysian government..." Could anyone please tell me if this is the right place to split it?--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:36, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Since the paragraph begins: "The construction of the superstructure..." –where it starts discussing something else would be a good place to split. Where you suggest seems fine to me.  That wall-of-text could easily be split into 3 or more paragraphs. There are probably "rules" for such, but trusting your common sense would be fine.  If its less than perfect, perhaps somebody will come along and fix it; that's how Wikipedia works. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 02:30, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.--Thylacine24 (talk) 12:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Refs are missing from article
Hi,

There are 14 references that give the "The named reference $1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page)" error on the Marvel Cinematic Universe article. However, if I search for them on that article, nothing even shows up. How do I get them fixed?

Thanks. David O. Johnson (talk) 04:31, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I left a message on the article's talk page. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It was fixed. David O. Johnson (talk) 06:44, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Administrator error
I'm a multiple national bestselling and award winning author and editor, and this user just speedy-deleted my page for lack of "Credible importance." After the page has been up for 15 years and expanded regularly with my works. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FabrictrampMzmadmike (talk) page Michael Z. Williamson
 * Speedy deletions that have occurred may be challenged at Deletion Review. 331dot (talk) 06:14, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Also, I'll point out this has happened before. It comes down to editors who don't like what they perceive my politics to be trying to delete my presence. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michael_Z._Williamson?
 * I think the article is unlikely to be deleted, but just be patient and things will go back to normal.  Db<i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  09:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Current attempt to delete his presence: Articles for deletion/Michael Z. Williamson (2nd nomination). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * That first AfD had at least one proven sock and a few new accounts with virtually no other edits. The comments about his politics came from a sock and a new editor, both voting keep. Hm, I just looked at the new AfD and User:Koncorde made the same comment, and worse yet, there's obviously canvassing going on with new editors, an IP who has edited twice, etc. can you explain this?  Doug Weller  talk 15:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I had no interest or idea of the topic but saw the warning header at the top of AfD #1 and then when I saw all the lack of edit history etc I had to raise my concerns. Williamson may well be notable, but how the AfD is (and maybe was) influenced had me questioning a few things. Koncorde (talk) 15:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * The OP is not just canvassing but also harassing an editor - both from his FaceBook page. I've brought this up at ANI suggesting a community ban unless he apologises. Doug Weller  talk 17:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Citing an archive
Hi Folks, How would I cite an archive, specifically this: Thanks.  scope_creep Talk  12:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 12:14, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thankee. I thought it was that, but every time I see them on the de wikipedia, the webarchive template I seem to go down that route. Keep this for later use.  scope_creep Talk  12:18, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 12:14, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thankee. I thought it was that, but every time I see them on the de wikipedia, the webarchive template I seem to go down that route. Keep this for later use.  scope_creep Talk  12:18, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Confused about formatting in this sentence
In the page "Trikuta", I found this sentence (link removed):

"The mountain is believed to be {according to hindu mythology}|the second home of the divine goddess Durga."

Could anyone please tell me how to fix this? Also, I changed the section title from "Significane on History and Hinduism" to "Significance to history and Hinduism", which I don't think is objectionable, though if it is, then please tell me. (Unfortunately, I neglected to provide an edit summary in a bout of laziness. I'll try to make things clearer in my next edit on that page.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 12:34, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I have removed the stray pipe. Eagleash (talk) 12:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.--Thylacine24 (talk) 13:23, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

update article
hello, on this article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASCAR_fatalities. it is missing a fatal accident. driver Blaise Alexander died in 2001 in an on track accident. he drove in the ARCA series of stock car racing. wiki already has separate article about this driver but he is not listed on wikis list of fatal NASCAR fatal accidents. he should be listed under the other series category.

I tried to edit it but having trouble .!maybe someone can update this please.thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.117.29.91 (talk) 16:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your efforts. However, that's not a list of NASCAR drivers who died. It's a list of drivers who died in NASCAR events. Blaise Alexander died in an ARCA event, not a NASCAR event. -Arch dude (talk) 16:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree with . If you are having trouble editing, then you can visit the Help Editing page or take the Tutorial. If you have anymore questions please return or visit the Teahouse. Best wishes, Willbb234 (talk) 16:53, 21 July 2019 (UTC)