Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 June 16

= June 16 =

How to revert an archive?
In the Talk:2019 Venezuelan uprising, I have been reverting the archiving of a bot (User:Lowercase sigmabot III) because I want to keep a section alive for discussion. Nevertheless, I'm very probably doing this wrong, and many copies of the same sections are being created in the archive. How do I revert these actions correctly? How do I fix what I have done? and how do I stop it from archiving a section? For more information see: Talk:2019_Venezuelan_uprising.--MaoGo (talk) 12:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * See User:Lowercase sigmabot III/Archive HowTo. The already arhived copies must be fixed manually. This requires some page deletions and merges to do properly. I will do this. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have cleaned up the archives and set the bot to not archive Talk:2019 Venezuelan uprising for 100 days from now. It's 180 kB and should preferably allow archiving long before that by removing the code. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * thank you!. --MaoGo (talk) 17:39, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding information about residence
In Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil wikipedia infobox his residence column is missing. Somebody add this column. At present he got permanent residency approval also. Thanks. (223.230.146.67 (talk) 12:20, 16 June 2019 (UTC))
 * Please make the edit request at the article talk page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * As per editor "Eagleash" guidance, I posted my request on Talk page of Dr. Shamsheer but no one responded. Someone, please! look that request and make the possible edits.
 * Thanks (223.230.146.67 (talk) 13:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC))

Wikipedia Article search
Hi, is there a way to make my Article page searchable? im a semi pro fighter and would like to create a Wikipedia page as a portfolio and an autobiography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaneosmond92 (talk • contribs) 12:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid the answer is probably no. Please see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:COI for why this is not a good idea. Wikipedia is not a form of social media where persons create profiles etc. Facebook and the like exist for that. If you are truly notable by Wikipeidia's definition (see that page and also WP:NSPORTS for more info) an uninvolved editor will likely create a page for you in due course. A biography created in your userpage is likely to be deleted as misuse of Wiki as a webhost. Sorry to not be able to be more positive. Eagleash (talk) 12:35, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Regarding uploading pictures of (postal) stamps & seals to Commons
I'd like to know about legally uploading pictures of stamps (various countries) & of seals to Commons. I suppose there's no problem with stamps, since stamp pictures star in many relevant articles, but want to know more. About seals I know even less (e.g., the seals of Columbia university & Yale university). Thank you, בנצי (talk) 12:29, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . You really need to ask this at Commons, which is a separate project. But the simple answer is that Commons only accepts material which is freely available for reuse by anybody for any purpose. In practice, that means it is either in the public domain (either by explicit statement, or by reason of age) or has been explicitly released under a licence such as CC-BY-SA. I'm sure that some stamps and seals are old enough for their designs to be in the public domain, but I doubt if any recent ones are usable (but I may be wrong). English Wikipedia allows non-free materials to be uploaded directly (not to commons) in certain circumstances, and logos are often used in this way: it wouldn't surprise me if seals were also. The criteria which must all be met are in non-free content criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 16:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

*fD Discussions
So I have wondered for a long while... Are editors like me allow to participate in RfD discussions? (I do know we can do AfD's, I have done plenty.) James-the-Charizard (talk) 12:49, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * of course! The only rule for most discussions is simply having an account. WP:Redirects for discussion, WP:AFD, WP:RFC - even WP:RFA etc are all suitable for you to comment on. There are some that are open to even IP users, and a very rarely just admins. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, man! I figured it would be safer to ask first rather than barge in. James-the-Charizard (talk) 12:57, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , sure. There doesn't get a great deal of editors in RfD, so I can understand why it might seem there were rules on who could participate. I like to encourage all users to add to these discussions Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:19, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Help
I don't understand why wikipedia made help desk? If no one is interested in solving the problem. This is the fifth time I approached help desk to ask, to fix a problem. I have posted request on Talk page of Shamsheer Vayalil. Please! make the possible edits. I think editors are not interested to edit any physician's article. One of the editors asked just now to me to provide a reliable source of Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil's residency. So,these sources are news websites "thenational";" gulfnews".Reliable source to know his occupation is wikipedia itself. Wikipedia itself says that he is a "Radiologist"and"MD of VPS Healthcare". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.230.146.67 (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC) Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.230.146.67 (talk) 17:37, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You made your request at Talk:Shamsheer Vayalil yesterday. It is not reasonable to expect people to jump up and fulfill it immediately, especially when you don't provide sources and just state "I want information about X to be included". Things would likely proceed more smoothly if you were to a) provide the information, b) provide reliable sources to go along with it, and c) not insert the request somwewhere in the middle of the talk page. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi! A number of editors have all tried to help, but you've requested conflicting changes, erased/replaced some requests with new ones, added and removed requests on individual editor talk pages, failed to provide links to sources, and generally been unclear in what changes you are requesting.  Here is what I've done to improve the article as that is what our focus is regardless of your preferences on how you would like to see the information presented. I've

Multiple editors have already tweaked the infobox (in multiple conflicting ways due to your repeated, unclear, and unconventional requests), so I left that part alone until you are able to succinctly state your request with appropriate sources.  Orville1974  (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * conducted a copy edit of the article contents itself
 * clarified article wording based on the citations
 * located more sources for some items in the Early Life section
 * removed minor details for which I couldn't find any source
 * consolidated Shamsheer's efforts related to NRI rights
 * reorganized the Awards and Accolades section

Longshot(Marvel) - Boz and others "edit warring" with elevated permissions.
Longshot is a Marvel intellectual property and a known "luck" user in the comics. The editors who refuse to allow anyone else to correct this page continuously change aspects of the character freely and use a unauthorized conversation with Ann Nocenti as a means to refute any cannon comic book sources as the final word on the subject.

Ann Nocenti has not written for Longshot since the 80s. Her opinion is extremely outdated and his character has evolved tremendously since then. Regardless even in the 80s "luck" was thought to be the only power he had in the first place by most comic fans.

Psychometry is the only one they will allow on the list even though the powers list is much longer and ad-libs as well. The article seems far more about Ann Nocenti than Longshot and they won't allow me to edit a single word.

I was accused of going to war with them for editing the article yet they are the ones you can see by time stamp returning to the article every single time I make an edit and changing it almost immediately or within a few hours. Boz one of your staff I suppose locks me out of editing and accused me of edit warring more than once yet he can see by time stamp he and his cohort are the ones who get defensive over edits.

What are the protecting exactly?

I have cannon evidence to my edits based on comics that contain the source material I used in detail. They have none other than a writer who gave an interview to a comic con attendee without any approval from Marvel.

Considering this article and any others containing Marvel Intellectual Property somewhat represent Marvel as a respected source of cited material it makes no sense that a small band of internet trolls can hijack and strong arm articles at a whim. Why are they even receiving updates that an article has been edited?

That in itself promotes edit warring does it not?

I'm sure Marvel would and will agree with me about Longshot's page as the last time someone took liberties with their property I did report it and they contacted the company directly.

I'm sure it shouldn't need to go that far, but Marvel has been around for a very long time, and trolls have no right to mess around with these characters. Some people go here before reading and it could even alter the movies themselves if directors don't want to read through 900 or so comics. You have quite the responsibility to keep these articles legit and sourced as Marvel is currently working over time to create new movies and don't have the time to read thousands of comics. So they might come here.

I'm not looking to cause trouble but I've been enjoying Marvel my entire life. Much like soap opera fans watched those their whole lives. I only edited one article about Longshot and got accused of warring for correcting gross overstatements and incorrect information. Please stop the abuse of power and consider not allowing trolls to silence those who don't even have accounts from rewriting poorly written articles.

Some with accounts seem obsessed with Wikipedia but editing tons of articles does not mean they edit them well let alone correctly with citations from source material. Keeping long spreadsheets of articles they're warring with kind of makes it obvious and they all seem to have these lists of articles they check daily but only to protect misinformation.

You can Google Longshot and the first thing that comes up is "luck" user yet psychometry is listed in the bullet list as his only power. It's incorrect and a huge error that has been protected since 2008 at least.

This Boz troll is who they run to every time someone edits this page. '''They say luck isn't a power yet they reword it as probability field for other luck users such as Domino who is cannon in both comics and Deadpool 2 as a luck user. I had a reply from a troll "luck isn't a power" and Boz agreed. Why does this user have the power to lock pages?'''

Just a guy who really likes Longshot and has been reading X-Men and New Mutants comics since around age 8. Thanks for reading. Sorry for the inconvenience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.152.121.208 (talk • contribs) 16 June 2019 17:59 (UTC)


 * See also wall of text edit request on article talk. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 18:13, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Creating And Editing
I just got a wikipedia account. And I was wondering if there is anyway to create an article on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caden Foxman (talk • contribs) 19:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that you spend some time editing existing articles in areas that interest you before attempting to create a new article. Creating a new article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia, and going into it without some experience under your belt could result in hurt feelings and disappointment, which I do not want you to have. You may find it helpful to use the new user tutorial as well. However, if you still want to attempt to create a new article immediately, you should read Your First Article, then go to Articles for Creation. New users cannot directly create articles until the account has 10 edits and is four days old. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia. Yes, there is. But this is not necessarily the most effective way for you to get involved with Wikipedia. Writing a new article is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia, and dozens of new articles get deleted every day, because the people who create them haven't spent time learning how Wikipedia works, and what are the criteria for Wikipedia to have an article about a subject. I always advise new users to spend a few weeks or months improving some of our six million existing articles before they try this (and we certainly have plenty that could do with some attention).
 * In any case, the place to look at when you do want to write a new article is your first article
 * Incidentally, if you are intending to tell the world about you, your boss, your teacher, your company, your college, your band, your charity, or anything else, this is probably not the right place for it. (Apologies if this does not describe you, but it does describe many new editors who try to start with a new article). Paradoxical though it may seem, Wikipedia is not for telling the world about anything: it is for summarising already-published information about things, which means that the world has already been told about the things before Wikipedia is interested: see notability for more on this. --ColinFine (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Omnibus editions don't require their own pages, right?
Just found a link to a nonexistent page for an omnibus edition on the "Poul Anderson bibliography" page. Could you please tell me if it's all right to remove the link, since I doubt anyone would want to create a page for an omnibus edition?--Thylacine24 (talk) 20:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd say your instincts are sound there. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)