Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 June 5

= June 5 =

Jessie Beatrice Kitson
There are  some  strange  stray text  words  and  symbols  on this  page  after reference  8  -  please  remove if you  can. I cannot  today. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 04:12, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Maproom (talk) 06:06, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

permission to use OM symbol in my book
Helllo, I'm writing a book and I'd like to include the red OM or Aum symbol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om How do I get permission to copy and paste the red OM symbol within my book? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.166.190.56 (talk) 09:47, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You don't need any. As you can read on File:Om symbol.svg, it's part of the Unicode standard and thus public domain. Regards So  Why  09:54, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing youtube
To what extent is sourcing YouTube acceptable, if at all? Can we use it to source a statement if the video shows that person making the statement? Should the time of statement be mentioned in the source? What about the video's description section, is that reliable?--Megaman en m (talk) 12:36, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * See Reliable sources/Perennial sources - YouTube is regarded as generally unreliable. Mikenorton (talk) 13:56, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, . You can sometimes, but there are caveats. First, many videos on YouTube are themselves copyright infringements, and Wikipedia forbids linking to anything which is a copyright infringement. Secondly, many videos on YouTube are not reliable sources, because there is either no information about where they come from, or even if there is, there is no information which allows a viewer to determine their reliability.
 * Some YouTube videos do not have either of these problems - typically they will be on an official channel of a person or organisation; and the person or organisation will either have a reputation for accuracy and editorial responsibility, or will be closely connected with the subject of the article. In these cases, the video can be used as a source (though in the latter case, only in the limited ways that primary sources can be). For the mechanics of how to cite, there is a citation template cite AV media (also called cite Youtube). You'll find more information at WP:YOUTUBE. --ColinFine (talk) 14:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , You were probably better off asking this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources, but I could have sworn that WikiProject Video games/Sources once said what ColinFine has; that those sorts of YouTube videos (which the two you are referring to at Two Point Hospital do indeed seem to be) are okay. Adam9007 (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The two videos in question are interviews. They're not anonymous, not self-published, and I don't think there's any copyright infringement. I'm not sure what verifiable means in this context, but considering the source is quoting what the interviewees said directly, it shouldn't be a problem. Considering that there doesn't seem to be a written account from a reliable source of the video, I think that sourcing YouTube is acceptable in this case.--Megaman en m (talk) 15:14, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Page move vandalism on Bsbsbsbsb
Would someone be able to move Bsbsbsbsb back to Jazimaq? I tried but it wouldn't allow me to. Thanks! aboideautalk 15:16, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:22, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Newly written book added to Bibliography
Submission declined on 5 June 2019 by Theroadislong (talk).

This Is a request for content to be added to an existing article it is NOT a proposed draft article for submission, the request has been made on the article talk page too.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you have not resolved the issues listed above, your draft will be declined again and potentially deleted. If you need extra help, please ask us a question at the AfC Help Desk or get live help from experienced editors.

As you may see from what preceeds I made a request for content to be added to an existing article. One person at least has perceived that. Other editors keep talking to me as if I were making a submission for an article, which I am not. Anyway I asked for addition of a new book I had written and it was in fact added to the Bibliography of User:BruceAllanClark. At the saem time I had asked that a published article I have written be also added to the Bibliography. It was not added but rather seems to have becoem entangled in two editors misconception that I have asked to create a Wikipedia article, which I am not. The published aticle is Bruce A. Clark, "The Sovereign Indigenous Power of Veto in Canada," Dissident Voice. May 23, 2019. https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/05/the-sovereign-indigenous-power-of-veto-in-canada/.

My question is, why did my book become listed in my Bibliogrphay but not my article? User:BruceAllanClark Secondly, is this a talk pge that requires the following?BruceAllanClark (talk) 16:12, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I added the book, but not the article, Wikipedia articles do not list every thing a person has ever written, and it is not a means for you to promote your work. The reason other editors keep talking to you as if you were making a submission for an article, is because that is exactly what you DID when you clicked the "submit' button. Theroadislong (talk) 16:25, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I've deleted the malformed article submission Jimfbleak - talk to me?  18:07, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

How to add to wikipedia
How do we add an organization to the notable organization section of a wikipedia page? And how do we delete incorrect info on a wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethSTaylor (talk • contribs) 19:13, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have some follow up questions before I can answer your questions.
 * Who is "we"?
 * What Wikipedia page are you wanting to add an organization to, and what is the name of the organization? Does Wikipedia have an article about the organization?
 * Deleting incorrect info on a Wikipedia page is fairly easy, you did it here. That bit of information did not cite a source, so removing it was the correct thing to do. If it does cite a source however, it can be a bit trickier, however we don't want incorrect information to remain.
 * Are you being paid for your edits? If so you must disclose that fact.  I will leave a more detailed message about paid editing on your talk page. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:25, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your fast response. I am Beth Taylor, the President of the Deer Park Historical Association. And no, I, nor is any part of our organization receiving any payment to make this change. The DPHA would like to have added to the noted organization section of the Deer Park NY wikipedia page the following: The Deer Park Historical Association, founded in 2015 by Frank Spingola and Beth Taylor. The DPHA organization is dedicated to keeping the history of the Deer Park community alive for future generations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethSTaylor (talk • contribs) 19:37, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * And... this edit answered some of those questions. When there is a list on a page like the "notable organizations" section of Deer Park, New York, or the "notable alumni" section of various school articles, all of the entries on that list should consist of internal links to other Wikipedia articles about the organization or person being discussed.  Wikipedia does not currently have an article about the Deer Park Historical Association, therefore it does not belong in the "notable organizations" section of that article.  Whether Wikipedia should have an article about Deer Park Historical Association or not is an entirely different question which can be resolved by reading and understanding the General Notability Guidelines. At any rate, it is inappropriate to add that organization to that page at this time.
 * Also, that edit informed me that you do have a conflict of interest regarding Deer Park Historical Association, and thus should not edit articles about it. Please refer to the conflict of interest information I left on your talk page.  That said, as someone who is interested in history, I'm sure there are a lot of other articles about Deer Park, the area, and its history where your contributions would be invaluable, and Wikipedia would welcome your edits in those areas.  There can be a steep learning curve to editing here, and there are a lot of somewhat confusing guidelines and policy pages.  If you need any help, feel free to let me know. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:40, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * (Post-edit conflict) Sorry, while I was typing the above you added your response. However, what I said is still relevant. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:40, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * (added ping) ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:52, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

I will definitely look into getting a wikipedia page started for the historical association. Thank you for the info. You had mentioned the was a conflict of interest, may I ask what you meant by that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethSTaylor (talk • contribs) 19:59, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * A conflict of interest is when you are writing about yourself, the organization you work for (or, in your case, founded), a family member, a client, any one or any thing that is paying you or that you have a financial interest or stake in, etc. Since you are the founder of the Deer Park Historical Association, you have a conflict of interest when you write about the historical association.  Therefore you should not write about the Deer Park Historical Association.  If you believe the Deer Park Historical Association is notable as that term is used on Wikipedia you can ask someone who does not have a conflict of interest to write about it.  If you do so, please provide independent reliable sources about the Deer Park Historical Association. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 20:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

lewis capaldi Wikipedia
hi lewis capaldi birth place Is stated both as Glasgow and also west Lothian ; both locations cannot be true so can you clarify which one is correct, many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.50.163 (talk) 20:24, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * From what I can tell, he was born in Glasgow but grew up in Lothian. This would be better resolved on the article's talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  20:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Constructive Credits?
Hello CLC,

I have two brothers (James & Tony Fitzpatrick) that I work with and both played Professional Football. I am confused as to why their credits are not constructive, yet you have other Seminole Alums listed, that have the same credits?

Please explain.

Cheers,

Julienne Ford-Hammond — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.196.62 (talk) 20:24, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You'd be better off suggesting sources to add on those articles' talk pages. I just marked James' article for needing more references. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  20:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)