Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 March 2

= March 2 =

How do I change Portal image?
The Portal in question is Portal:African American. I want to change File:AmericaAfrica.svg to File:Kleed- Stichting Nationaal Museum van Wereldculturen - RV-5899-18 (cropped).jpg. I don't know how to access the page with the code. Mitchumch (talk) 01:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Why? Your suggested image doesn't seem to have connection to African Americans. Rmhermen (talk) 01:30, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The story behind the kente cloth worn by Black members of Congress at Trump’s SOTU
 * The History and Significance of Kente Cloth in the Black Diaspora
 * African-American Graduates Will Add Kente Cloth to Regalia
 * The Roots and Importance Of Kente Cloth In The African American Diaspora
 * For a list of Google searches, see african american kente cloth. Kente cloth serves a prominent place within the African American community.


 * I figured out how to change the image. Mitchumch (talk) 01:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * However this particular image is an actual West African textile in a Dutch museum. Rmhermen (talk) 01:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Any kente cloth will serve the purpose as an image. I only needed a random image of some kente cloth. Mitchumch (talk) 02:08, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I disagree with saying that kente cloth has a prominent place within the African American community. It's not quite the same as something officially established like the colors representing Black History Month which would be Black, Green & Red. I understand what your trying to do, but culturally kente cloth doesn't have a strong cultural significance as much as the colors that represent BHM.Mcelite (talk) 07:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Since, per the comments above, that change is controversial, you should discuss it first at Portal talk:African American, where you will (hopefully) get a better cross-section of the interested editors than at the Help Desk. Tigraan Click here to contact me 17:18, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I created a new article but mis-spelled one of the words in the TITLE!
I created a new article but mis-spelled one of the words in the TITLE! So the slug-line of the URL is also mis-spelled.

The page is called: "Most Imporant Greeks from the Golden Age" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Imporant_Greeks_from_the_Golden_Age

As you can see, I mis-spelled the word "Important". So it is incorrect in both the Title and the URL.

I would like to correct BOTH of the spelling errors (in MAIN TITLE and in URL) If I cannot do BOTH, how can I delete the article? Once deleted, I will just create a new one with correct spelling.

Thank you.

Npsaltos62 (talk) 03:57, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Tagged for deletion. I suggest you instead start Draft:List of notable Greeks from the Golden Age and ask for some help on it. For example we put headings in == not ALL CAPS shouting. You'll also need some WP:RS that discuss this topic and tell us who belongs on the list. Otherwise the page is not going to last long. Legacypac (talk) 04:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

to have each wikipedia to have verses and chapters
to have each Wikipedia to have verses and chapters. That is similar the bible layout. so that people can use wiki and have it as a reference for projects.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimDHill92 (talk • contribs) 2 March 2019 04:41 (UTC)
 * Hello, not clear exactly what your post is asking about. Wikipedia articles are written in a 'house-style' per the manual of style. They typically have a lead section with the main part of the article being divided into subsections. Any person is welcome to use Wikipedia for research, but note that many academic institutions discourage its use. Eagleash (talk) 05:59, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Tim, to an extent, we do have a structured layout throughout Wikipedia. The page Portal:Contents/Portals is a great way to start understanding this structure. Lourdes   06:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Infowars
After research I see you only publish what the real fake news as put out and later retracted because of law suits, well thanks for showing your true colors No One in my family will ever trust your content ever again! After seeing Wikipedia I will now be supporting the infowars and everything they do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.3.72.116 (talk) 06:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You are completely free to place your faith in disinformation websites that promote conspiracy theories for personal profit. I hope that you enjoy your time being lied to and manipulated by Alex Jones, as he profits from your gullibility. Wikipedia has a different goal, but we cannot force you to accept the validity of how we attempt to summarize human knowledge. As a free person, you can make your own decisions. Be well! Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Apart from what Cullen writes, please note that Wikipedia editors rely on reliable sources to publish verifiable material. If you believe any of the material on Wikipedia is based on unreliable sources, feel free to point the same out on the respective article's talk page or at Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Lourdes   06:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Let's review for our newly-arrived Infowars / Newswars / Prison Planet minions, shall we?
Alex Jones claims that the US government kidnaps children and makes them slaves at our martian colony, that kids are only pretending to get shot at school and their parents are only pretending to grieve, that Michelle Obama is really a man, that Carrie Fisher of Star Wars fame was killed to boost DVD sales, that the coming New World Order is a demonic high-tech tyranny formed by satanist elites who are using selective breeding to create a supreme race, that tap water is turning frogs gay, that Temple of Baal arches will be erected in multiple cities around the world Real Soon Now, that the Democratic party runs a pedophile ring through pizza shops, that the US government commits acts of terrorism against its own citizens, that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons from hell, that the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami were a government plot, that Obama wanted to detonate a nuclear bomb in Charleston, South Carolina, that FEMA runs concentration camps... Sounds legit to me! --Guy Macon (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Correction The following unsigned edit was then inserted by  over the top of Guy's words incorrectly preserving Guy's signature for something he didn't write:
 * If you are looking for the truth about G Edward Griffin, Alex Jones, or any other person trying to get the truth out there, you won't find it here. Corrections are deemed "not helful", or not constructive.  As is always the case, you get more truth about someone, by actually listening to what they have to say, and not quoting "tongue in cheek" or "out of context" quotes.

Edited to ensure fairness to individual's contributions with no comment on veracity. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * To elaborate about the collapsing, paraphrasing Magic_(illusion): for those who think, no explanation is necessary; for those who believe, no explanation will suffice. Tigraan Click here to contact me 17:34, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Article: Philippines
Wikipedia

Mar. 2, 2019

To whom it may concern,

On article; Philippines Religion percentages - was posted before. Religion percentages now - NOT given or posted.

Thank you for your help.

Arnel Villarin Customer a reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.105.168.35 (talk) 06:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The percentages can be seen at Philippines. But these figures are based on relatively old sources. You could probably see Religion in the Philippines for a fresher perspective, as it uses 2014 statistics. Lourdes   06:56, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Include parts of template without labels
Hello, I'd like to update several "software comparisons" pages with up-to-date information about the programs mentioned. This includes updating version numbers. Some of these applications have a Template:LSR (Latest software release) which can easily be embedded. This reduces the maintenance required in the future and should ensure that all version information is always updated. My problem is the following: In comparison pages such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors, the latest version and the date of the release of the latest version are in separate fields. Is there an easy way to include only the latest_release_version or latest_release_date from the template into the respective cells? I found the articles regarding section labels, but that seems quite complicated for such a task. Thanks & have a nice day!

(This question was first asked at the Teahouse, but I was then redirected here.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by XYQuadrat (talk • contribs) 11:29, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi XYQuadrat. Sorry this request is not progressing: I've posted on the template talk page in hopes of attracting a response from those skilled with templates Bhunacat10 (talk),  11:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

How to avoid multiple logs of the same reference on the footer list of the reference, in the same article?
Hello, I repeatedly use few references on different section "on the same Wikipedia article". Therefore multiple logs of the same reference are added to the footer list of references (in the same article). How can I avoid this? (i.e. I wanted only one log to be added to the footer list of references, even though I use it multiple times)! Best regards, Truth gate keeper (talk) 14:03, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Truth gate keeper


 * At the first use of the reference you need to give it a name, then when used again you just call up the declared name . MilborneOne (talk) 14:11, 2 March 2019 (UTC)


 * There's an explanation of the process here: WP:IBID valereee (talk) 14:16, 2 March 2019 (UTC)


 * If you are referring to your work on Welkait where you are referring to multiple pages in the two population and housing reports, then you've hit the problem with inline citations. There is another, slightly more complex, way that minimises this issue.  You move all the actual citations into a bibliography which gives the details of the work, but not the location within the work, then use a short form reference to point to the work, adding in the page details.  See section 4.1.8 WP:CITESHORT for a simple example.  In your case it would look something like:

" ...4% of all houses had toilet facilities. "

" ! 1994 Census ! "

== References ==

== Bibliography == * 1994 Population and Housing Census of Ethiopia: Results for Tigray Region, Vol. 1, part 1, (accessed 30 December 2008)
 * Please get back to me if you need further help in this. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:05, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi all, Thank you for your help MilborneOne and Martin of Sheffield. The comment MilborneOne gave me was able to solve my issue. However, I also now slightly understand what MilborneOne is saying, I might use it later. I will ask you back if I get difficulties on the way. Best regards, Truth gate keeper (talk) 15:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Truth gate keeper

Long talk pages
Before I create an RFC, is there any rule about talk pages going over a certain length (i.e. 200 kB)? Please ping me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Per WP:ARCHIVENOTDELETE, "As a rule of thumb, archive closed discussions when a talk page exceeds 75 KB or has multiple resolved or stale discussions." Clarityfiend (talk) 20:28, 2 March 2019 (UTC)


 *  Reply -, User:Joefromrandb has a talk page that his well over 200 kB. How can I get them to archive it? --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:15, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You could use  but bear in mind the convention to not use templates on the TPs of regular editors. A more personal message might be appropriate. Eagleash (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 *  Reply -, , I left  at User talk:Joefromrandb, but to no avail.  Is there any rule about talk pages going over a certain length? --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * As far as I am aware there is no rule, merely a suggestion as linked above. You made the point and it was responded to. That's really the end of the matter I suppose. Eagleash (talk) 17:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * And don't create an RfC. It will just get shouted down. Save yourself the hassle, and accept the fact that Consensus (which rules here; Rules don't) is that people can have any length talk page they want. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC) forgot to ping. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:Hatnote
How come the variant  is listed under   at  ?--Hildeoc (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably because all calls of are listed together for convenience. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Would you recommend leaving it as it is, then?--Hildeoc (talk) 21:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Talk
How to delete comments in talk page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalzamin (talk • contribs) 23:17, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merely click 'edit source' and delete the text. Note that you should not delete or edit comments by other editors which are not made on your own talk page. Deleting any 'advisory' comments on your own TP can be taken to mean that you have read and understood the content.
 * Please do not ask the same question in multiple locations. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 23:33, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * With regard to the comment you added and then removed at Talk:Kahi, Nowshera district; as it was the last edit, you could have gone to the edit history and clicked 'undo' and then saved (published) the page. Eagleash (talk) 17:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)