Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 May 15

= May 15 =

Creating a Page for an Organization
Hi there, I'm trying to better understand how I can help my organization create a Wikipedia page, not for promotional purposes, but simply to provide publicly accessible information.

Is it allowable for me to create this page, even though I am an employee of the organization?

Thank you! SephoraMMH (talk) 01:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. What you describe is a promotional purpose, as far as Wikipedia is concerned.  Wikipedia is not for merely telling about an organization.  This is an encyclopedia, which summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article(not "page") subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability; for organizations, that is written at WP:ORG.  Wikipedia is not interested in what an article subject wants to say about itself.
 * In addition, as you seem to suspect, it is highly discouraged for someone with what we call a conflict of interest to write about anything within their conflict. It isn't forbidden, but it is very difficult for someone to do what you wish to do successfully, and few people succeed at it.  If your organization truly merits a Wikipedia article(not every organization does), someone will eventually take note of your organization and write about it. Please review both the conflict of interest policy(or this plain language version) and the paid editing policy for more information(compliance with the latter is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement if you are compensated in any way for your edits). 331dot (talk) 02:05, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * To reiterate: If your organization is not notable by our definition (see WP:NCORP) then no amount of effort by you or anyone else can result in an article that will remain on Wikipedia. We can fix just about anything else, but we cannot create notability. Please do not waste any time on learning how to write a wonderful Wikipedia article unless you have first determined that the subject meets our notability definition. -Arch dude (talk) 03:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Is there a template for ...
Is there a template like $[ should be internal link ]$? Occasionally I'll come across a link to a website that should be an internal link, even if it is a redlink, but I am not sure exactly what page title I ought to link to. So I would like to tag such an external link with a template like this. Eman 235 / talk  04:06, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * There's none probably because that's not worth a tag. Instead of tagging, you can just repair the link with the same effort as tagging but better result for the Project. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about getting the title exactly right. That's what redirects are for, once the actual article has been created. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:25, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * All right. Eman  235 / talk  06:39, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

The hyperlink on my citation works but is not blue
Shoshana Bean Theatre Actress I edited the above page under the Theatre Actress section to include the recent news that she had extended her run through July. I included a citation [footnote 22] linking to the online article. The link works and all the proper information is included. The only thing is that the title of the article is not blue. You can hover over the title of the article and click on it, but it looks like regular text. The link opens to the article I cited. So why isn't it blue? I looked through the coding for my citation in comparison to other citations and I cannot find a single character which is different. What am I missing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albion1988 (talk • contribs) 04:30, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , is it purple? This would indicate that you've clicked the link. Eman  235 / talk  04:41, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

No, it is not colored at all. The article title appears as black text on white background, like any regular text. When you hover over the article title you can select it and it opens in the linked page, but you wouldn't know that it is a link until you do so.

Links
Not sure if this is the right place – apols if not – for a technical query. I am working at the moment on the article on the comic opera Orpheus in the Underworld. I have it up for FAC and I am half expecting one or more reviewers to suggest it should really be given the opera's original French title, Orphée aux enfers and I'd gladly go along with them if they do (it's not a clear-cut case either way). If there were a consensus for a change, the heart sinks at manually changing the links in the hundreds of articles that contain a link to the present page. Is there a bot or other ingenious device that could seek out all the links and change them in bulk? Grateful for advice. –  Tim riley  talk   07:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * See WP:Commonname for the policy that recommends retaining the English title. I would oppose any suggestion to move the article.  The French title is not very common in the English-speaking world.  Thank you for all your work on the article over the past few weeks.   Dbfirs  08:03, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Assuming the name change occurs (which is not certain per above), nothing needs to be manually done. Direct links to the English title are acceptable per WP:NOTBROKEN; links to a redirect to the English title will be fixed automagicabotally per Double redirect. Tigraan Click here to contact me 08:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for this advice. It will inform the discussion (if there is one) about moving the page.  Tim riley  talk   08:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

The page that I was creating has disappeared
Hi, I have been working on a page for Jacob Arfwedson this month and it has disappeared. Can you help me retrieve it? Also, is there a way to save the page before it is ready to be submitted? My account is ontogloria. Thanks!Ontogloria (talk) 08:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Were you doing this from another account? Your contributions show only one edit to wikipedia. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:50, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply Lee! I am pretty sure that it was in my ontogloria account since I don't think that I have another one. I had been working on this article for a week or so and was going over a preview before publishing, and my computer started an automatic update and when I logged back in, the article was gone. Is "publish changes" the only way to save an article that one is working on? Also, could you suggest ways in which I could find it and retrieve it?Ontogloria (talk) 09:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi - I'll reply on your talk page, as you've also sent me an email. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 10:34, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you again, Lee!Ontogloria (talk) 11:39, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Article assessments
Hey what does it mean if, under an article assessment on an article's talk page, it says "This article has not yet been checked against the criteria for B-Class status:" when it is rated C class? You can view it at Talk:University of North Carolina at Charlotte shooting. Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Basically, article assesments are community ratings of the article's quality. They often (but not always) go in the scale: stub, start, C, B, GA, FA. If the article says it's a C class, that means it's above a start, but below B and GA. Some wikiprojects have a checklist for things the article needs to meet to fit with the B class, which is what this says. GA and articles are by a formal review process WP:GA.


 * There are other types of articles, such as "future", "list" or "A class", but don't really say much for your question Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:34, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Recommendation
Hello, Can anyone recommend a good person and/or organization to assist to creating a Wikipedia page that knows how to follow the protocol? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D471:2690:60CF:D6D5:B14:929A (talk) 18:04, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, IP! It sounds like what you're looking for is someone you can pay to create an article for you? We don't recommend this. We can, however, help you determine whether the subject of the article you're suggesting is notable enough for an article. What is the subject? --valereee (talk) 19:40, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

What means 'draft:'
Hello English Wikipedia!

I wanted to translate the Spanish article es:Flora de la Polinesia Francesa to English (Draft:Flora of French Polynesia), but I do not know why when I create the article the word 'draft:' appears at the beginning of the title ... I have been creating and editing articles in the Spanish Wikipedia for many years (it works differently), but it's my first article in English. How can I publish my article? (I mean, remove the bloody word 'draft' from the beginning). I suppose the answer will be very obvious, you will have to excuse my ignorance; in the Spanish Wikipedia there isn't that much bureaucracy! (no offense) --El Mono Español ¿Qué me dices? 21:21 15 may 2019
 * This is a WP:MOVE to Article space. Currently this is in draftspace. I'd always recommend presenting the article to Articles for creation, however, I believe there is no longer a restriction on moving articles to mainspace, so you'd need to click on "move" and change the left hand box from "draft" to "(article)" Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * A draft is preliminary version, which is still being worked on, and is not ready for public display. My spanish-english dictionary says it is a "borrador"; which I'm not sure, but maybe that helps.  -- Jayron 32 19:30, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you! solved💞 -- El Mono Español ¿Qué me dices?
 * The article has been moved to mainspace, and several editors have subsequently made improvements. TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  23:05, 15 May 2019 (UTC)