Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 May 26

= May 26 =

Regarding edits.
Shamsheer vayalil parambath wikipedia page doesn't contains alma mater information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.230.168.24 (talk • contribs) 26 May 2019 07:24 (UTC)
 * Hello, if you have information in this respect, please feel free to add it to the page but please provide a reliable source. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note The infobox previously contained the information, but it was disrupted by a misplaced, unsupported and malformatted parameter. . Eagleash (talk) 11:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing
I've tried several times to edit the page, "Treasure In search of the Golden Horse" each time my edit is deleted. After spending 60 hours on this task, I must be doing something wrong. There is a new book explaining the true solution to this puzzle, which the world should know about. Is there someone (an editor) that can edit the page for me? Thanks, Momazogie Momazogie (talk) 09:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The only saved edits at Special:Contributions/Momazogie and the page history [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Treasure:_In_Search_of_the_Golden_Horse&action=history] are [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Treasure%3A_In_Search_of_the_Golden_Horse&type=revision&diff=892643537&oldid=885243294] from 16 April where you added a line to the See also section. The section is only for links to other Wikipedia articles and your addition was reverted. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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Replacing an article with another one
I'm not sure if I've done this correctly - there was a page called "Lucy Gray" which was about a poem of that name. However I wanted to write an article about a person with the same name, so I've renamed that page to "Lucy Gray (poem)" and written a page about LG on a page "Lucy Gray". Could someone please check that this all as it should be? Do we also need a disambiguation page now for the poem, the person, and there's an album as well? TIA! MurielMary (talk) 10:02, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's been changed for you. I don't think the WP:BLP is the primary topic, so it's been moved to Lucy Gray (activist) Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:27, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm also not 100% sure they are notable enough for a page, but that's just a feeling. Could be wrong. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * People don't automatically take precedence over other topics. The poem still looks like the primary topic so I have moved Lucy Gray (poem) back to Lucy Gray and moved the person to Lucy Gray (activist). In either case, the page at Lucy Gray should provide a way to navigate to the other articles. I have added the activist to the hatnote. If Lucy Gray (poem) had still be an article then the hatnote should have been removed since "(poem)" makes the subject unambiguous. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for that PrimeHunter, much appreciated. MurielMary (talk) 11:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

On This Day …
I make a lot of use of the Wiki pages that detail events on each day in history.

The ones like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_10

Each page is reasonably extensive: and includes links to the equivalent pages on the BBC‘s site: and that New York Times do, and the relevant page on the Canada Channel’s ‘Today In Canada’s History’ pages.

I have to ask: is there an equivalent for Australia, and New Zealand?

I believe it would be useful to each page

I know I’d find it handy: it would boost the range …  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuddy2977 (talk • contribs) 26 May 2019 11:46 (UTC)


 * Cuddy2977 So you want to add entries to the "External links" section in each of the date articles? Probably the place to discuss this is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. If you don't already have a proposal for particular useful links, perhaps first consult the WikiProjects for those countries Bhunacat10 (talk),  10:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * A couple per day, Bhunacat10, yes.   I’ll ropiest to the page you suggested: but wouldn’t know what would be good sites to suggest, I’m in the UK …

Cuddy2977 (talk) 10:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Foreign words in article
Hi! Recently, I created this template, and I want to begin filling the red links from the muktamar. I have several problems with this, is the term muktamar compatible in Wikipedia? Muktamar itself is an Indonesicized Arabic word that has been used frequently by Islamic organization. The words' literal meaning is congress (for political party context).

Can someone help me solving this? What title should I use, with muktamar or congress?--Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 14:09, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * No definition of the word "muktamar" appears in any dictionary that I can find, so it would not be appropriate for a Wikipedia article (though "Muktarmar" appears in Wikipedia as a name). The usual convention is WP:COMMONNAME.   Dbfirs  15:28, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Merritt Island High School
Hi guys not sure if this is a qualifier but under notable alumni for Merritt Island high school Jeff Wickersham was a 3 year starter for the LSU football team and was drafted by the Miami Dolphins thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jffcpr295 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The qualifier is simple: If the subject is notable (see WP:N) then the subject can and should have a Wikipedia article. If the subject does not have a Wikipedia article, then don't put him in the list. -Arch dude (talk) 18:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * "He was drafted by the Miami Dolphins"- did he play an NFL game for them? If so, he's probably notable enough for an article. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 23:30, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * He has an article already: Jeff Wickersham. He played in the CFL so WP:NGRIDIRON is satisfied. I'll add him to the school's alumni list. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:10, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Fair use vs. Public domain
Hi all! I am working along with other Wikipedians on recently approved DYK article George Beauchamp (RMS Titanic). There's already a free picture of him at 24 in 1912. I found this picture where he's pictured in 1965 shortly before his death. The copyright holder is unclear. Can it be used as fair use? or already having a public domain picture is enough? Best wishes. --LLcentury (talk) 22:44, 26 May 2019 (UTC) Yes, I know that, but it was 1912. So, you mean we could use fair use for the 1965 pic? Thanks again. --LLcentury (talk) 22:55, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * To be honest, the new picture is of such poor quality that I don't think it adds anything to the article anyway. Black Kite (talk) 22:49, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Edit: Oh you mean the 1965 pic, sorry, I completely misunderstood you. --LLcentury (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if anything the 1965 pic is worse than the 1912 one, and of course it was the 1910s when he became notable, so that picture is more relevant anyway. Black Kite (talk) 22:59, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't believe you can claim fair use here for a portrait of a non-living person if there's already a free image available – see criterion 1 of our non-free content policy. Your article has other problems: I moved it to draft space because I thought it needed a good deal of work before it could survive in mainspace. Specifically, the sources are mostly very poor – Google is a just search engine, so its results are not reliable; the Sun is a tabloid rag; the encyclopedia-titanica is user-submitted content, so not reliable by our standards. Then I realised that most of the content had anyway been copied from that source, so I'm afraid I've blanked the page. I'll post on your talk-page in a moment. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:22, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ... and ping after fail. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:23, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I've done my best to re-write the article. Hope I contributed. --LLcentury (talk) 00:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)