Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 May 5

= May 5 =

JS page not working as desired
For a good while, one of the components of my monobook.js page hasn't been working as desired, and another one is being intermittent today after working normally as long as I can remember. Any suggestions? The last significant change was in November 2017; I reverted it a moment ago, tested component #1 and found that it still wasn't working, and reverted my reversion.

Feature #1 — the bit below Wait for the page to be ready is supposed to affect the appearance of pages that transclude Infobox NRHP. The infobox takes the number appearing in its  parameter and automatically links it to a database entry, which is generally useful, but the link gets in my way, so I requested assistance with hiding it. For a while now (months? a year or two?), the link's been back, and I don't know how to hide it. It's not the November 2017 edit, because when I reverted it and viewed a page transcluding this infobox, the link was still there.

Feature #2 — I'm supposed to get the old "You have new messages!" orange bar when someone edits my talk. I got four notifications in the last day or two and noticed them three times (i.e. two were close enough that I didn't view my talk page before the first and after the second), but the only notices I ever got were the red "1" and the mini-orange new-messages bit that everyone gets. Not what's supposed to happen, but when I used my public-sock to edit my talk page, I got the message as desired. All the no-bar messages were from User:MediaWiki message delivery or User:DannyS712 bot; should I imagine that bots and non-bots are treated differently for notification purposes?

In case you're wondering: I've been using IE 11 for a good while now (a couple of years or more), and I've never used anything but Monobook. Nyttend (talk) 00:39, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

PS, the infobox link isn't the fault of the browser; I've opened Chrome and am editing with it, and the link is still visible. Nyttend (talk) 00:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * For number one, try changing 'Reference' to 'reference', an edit in 2017 changed the capitalisation Danski454 (talk) 09:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text
Vai29 (talk) 09:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * A ref name has been added ('Carroll') without that reference having been defined anywhere. In an instance where a source is used more than once you write  at the first use. At subsequent uses you need only to enter  . You need to add ref content where the ref name is used; as this appears to be the only use a ref name is not required. See WP:REFB for more information. Eagleash (talk) 09:39, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Eagleash, Thank you very much for your help!Vai29 (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

How do I add a name to your "recipients of Distinguished flying cross"
My uncle received an distinguished flying cross during world war II and his name is not on your list. I have his discharged paperwork stating he received it for proof. How do I get his name added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomaskielar (talk • contribs)


 * Sorry, but it's not a list of all DFC recipients. It's list of all recipients who have an article here in the English Wikipedia. Only "notable" people have articles, and the award of the DFC is not by itself to meet our "notability" guidelines. See WP:N. -Arch dude (talk) 16:11, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Of course, if your uncle can meet the Notability criteria for reasons other than having been awarded the DFC, a Wikipedia article could be created about him, and his wikilinked (hence blue) name could then be added to the DFC list article. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

more legendary/mythical pokemon articles
there needs to be more legendary /mythical pokemon articles because what if this happened: some kid didnt know about the legendary/mythical pokemon so he went on the rayquaza article on wikipedia he read until the part where it said the words "groudon" and "kyogre" he didnt know who they were and he would never know who they were because there isnt a wikipedia page for them so please make more legendary/mythical pokemon articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talk • contribs)
 * Back in the early days of Wikipedia there were actually more articles on individual Pokemon. As Wikipedia grew and matured and standards for notability were refined, it was decided that many of these items were sot sufficiently notable for stand-alone articles. I note that both of the terms you mention are in fact redirects that point to List of generation III Pokémon, which is probably more than sufficient coverage. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:38, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Security warning on url
The infobox url for the website of Kyungnam University is being flagged in my version of Firefox with "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead". Is there a tag for this? I tried to find and different url but couldn't. MB 17:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm using Safari and got a similar notice, saying it might be fake and basically that you should turn back. I've removed it for now as that doesn't seem like something we should be linking to. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Tutorial
I have proposed a change on the Tutorial talk page. See here. Since no one objected to my proposal, I have made the change to the page. See here. reverted my edits to the page due to problems in transclusion. The next thing I did was discuss it on Moxy's talk page. See here. Since he doesn't know how to fix the problems, can you find someone else that can fix them? Sincerely, Interstellarity (talk) 19:36, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, is anyone here? I waited 24 hours but no one answered. Interstellarity (talk) 19:15, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey Interstellarity. Sorry, things are a bit hectic at the moment. No complaints from me. I think it looks both fine and useful.  G M G  talk  20:54, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I have reverted Moxy's changes since you couldn't find any problems with my edits. If anyone reverts again, please be specific about what the problem is. Thank you, Interstellarity (talk) 21:26, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, I've never looked at these areas, so I have no idea. --ColinFine (talk) 21:24, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure why this was implemented again still not working....(second set of tabs not seen when trasculuding) see User:Moxy/sandbox. As per before reverted change. Think its best not to edit again till told all is ok.-- Moxy 🍁
 * Since I do not understand what is going on with the transclusion, I will not revert again or participate in any discussion. If you can find out what's going on, keep discussing and maybe you can come up with a solution. Interstellarity (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with what your trying to do ...but and a big butt..its messing up the tranclution ability as seen at  User:Moxy/sandbox and now your talk page, I cant find the coding error but if someone can that would be great. On the talk page perhaps use . -- Moxy 🍁 22:16, 6 May 2019 (UTC)


 * All good thanks to ..-- Moxy 🍁 22:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Signature problem
every editor in a higher rank tells me to get a signature but i dont know how how do i get a signature — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talk • contribs) 19:54, 5 May 2019 (UTC) ?


 * Hello, you seem to have gotten it right here, you just need to add four tildes at the end of your post:  – Þjarkur (talk) 20:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . There's already a built in signature in Wikipedia, but you should always sign any talk page messages that you write with ~ . Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:07, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Just as an aside - editors don't really have ranks. You are to an extent the same level as any other editor (some users have extra tools, but that's about it). Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * no no im talking about those colored signatures like you have lee how do i get one of those? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Yoshi (talk • contribs) 20:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not what you asked about, but Signatures explains how to customise your signature.  Dbfirs  20:18, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * particularly, you need to read the sections § How to sign your posts and § Customizing how everyone sees your signature. Eman  235 / talk  20:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure nobody has told you to get a customized signature. I have never seen anyone be asked to do that. It's something users do on their own initiative if they want it. Most users have the default signature like me. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If you just want your signature to appear in blue instead of red, then write something on your user page (User:Captain Yoshi).  D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  06:55, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Is this promotion?
I noticed that a user seems to be connected to a particular journal (including having an account rename after the original account name was blocked for being related to the name the journal), and has been adding (admittedly relevant) references to that journal to articles even after the rename. I know I'm supposed to AGF, but that seems like stealth advertising, even if well-intentioned. Does this count as promotional, or is it an acceptable action? Being deliberately vague because I'm not sure if it's appropriate to name specific users here. creffett (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The relevant policy is WP:SELFCITE, I think, though in some cases WP:REFSPAM may also apply. --ColinFine (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's exactly the sort of policy I was looking for. Thank you! creffett (talk) 21:33, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , also note that they could be doing undisclosed paid editing, which is a violation of our terms of service. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  00:33, 7 May 2019 (UTC)