Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 May 9

= May 9 =

ECP % of Articles
Hi all,

Various places on Wikipedia state that 5% of articles on Wikipedia are semi-protected. I'm not actually sure that remains correct, since I think it was determined a while ago, but I'm happy enough to accept it for now.

Do we have a similar known % for Extended-Confirmed Protection?

Thanks Nosebagbear (talk) 10:37, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Category:Wikipedia_pages_under_30-500_editing_restriction says "about 1334" pages and one image. Category:Wikipedia indefinitely semi-protected pages says 5095, and Category:Wikipedia_pages_protected_against_vandalism 5 (at the time of this writing). I have no idea of how accurate those counts are, and I am not sure the latter two categories count the whole of semiprotected pages.
 * Notice that dividing by 5.8M million articles yields about 0.1% of semiprotected pages, so either the 5% figure needs serious updating or the category count is off. Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * I count 9,617 article-space semiprotections and 1,246 article-space extended-confirmed protections . So that would be 0.16% under semi and 0.02% under ECP. – Þjarkur (talk) 11:53, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I count 9,963 semi protected non-redirects and 1289 extended-confirmed protected non-redirects using an SQL query, so category count is accurate, 5% number is not. Þjarkur's percentages should be about right. Danski454 (talk) 22:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Semi-protected articles tend to be vastly more popular than average articles. Perhaps the 5% refers to the proportion of page views to semi-protected articles? Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 05:13, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

List of Highest Grossing Films
The worldwide box office gross for Avatar is listed in the "List of Highest Grossing Films" as $2,487,965,087. According to boxofficemojo.com, the actual number is $2,787,965,087. I have included the link below. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avatar.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandrews4 (talk • contribs)


 * Convenience link. † dismas †|(talk) 12:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Convenience link. † dismas †|(talk) 12:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * And it was just corrected by . --† dismas †|(talk) 12:55, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Article Grading
Hello all. I was wondering about article grades. Who grades the articles? How could I get an article that has undergone massive changes since the evaluation reevaluated? Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 14:12, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Usually, grades are assigned by members of the relevant Wikiprojects. If an article has been significantly revised since it was graded, ask on the Wikiproject talk page for someone to re-grade it. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 15:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Photograph for Paul Brydges is the wrong photo.
The photo for Paul Brydges hockey player is not the correct photo for Paul Brydges hockey player. The photo is of Paul Brydges the landscaper who also resides in Guelph.


 * Convenience link. --† dismas †|(talk) 16:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Convenience link. --† dismas †|(talk) 16:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The Wikipedia entry for Paul Brydges does not have a photo. And, after an admittedly very brief search, never has. I believe you're probably looking at the Google search results which include a quick bio of a subject with photos. That bio is taken from Wikipedia but the photo is an error on Google's part and we have no control over that. † dismas †|(talk) 16:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You can tell Google about the problem by clicking on the tiny little grey "feedback" link at the bottom right of their summary. We cannot directly tell Google to do anything, but we have noticed that Google tends to use Wikipedia's picture when it exists instead of wandering around the web to find a different image. Therefore, one way to work around this problem is to find (or better, take your own) picture that is not encumbered by copyright, and add it to the Wikipedia article. Come back here for help to do this. -Arch dude (talk) 17:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Streabs' (that's me) contribution to Ars Moriendi. (re note 8)
Hello there,

I would like to thank both the lady who welcomed me having subscribed, and perhaps was very kind and practical regarding my initial attempt at contributing to Wiki the modern English text of the late middle ages original Ars Moriendi; and to CLCStudent, thanks for letting me know something was wrong yesterday - with the technicals I assume, I will indeed start again if necessary, and successful with the sandbox though am greatly hoping that might not be necessary. I could not activate any talk page back to either of you.

Is there any way that i can recapture the text i wrote yesterday ? Having experimented, until just now i was confident that the half day's work was successfully uploaded? onto the Ars Moriendi page and i got to two pages short of half way.

I think my efforts are worth persevering with. Ars Moriendi has not been transcribed on Google or Wiki before as far as i can find, and is of interest to historians and polymaths, atheists and theists alike.

Many thanks there. I fear that i'm too inept at anything remotely complicated to do with computers, but am trying and applying to it all nevertheless.

All regards, Streabs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Streabs (talk • contribs) 15:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Except in rare circumstances, all previous versions of an article are available to view and (providing licensing conditions are complied with) copy from. Go to the article and pick "History". You will see all the edits made, and can pick any historic version to look at. --ColinFine (talk) 17:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * for convenience, here's a diff of the changes you made. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 17:20, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you all ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Streabs (talk • contribs) 9 May 2019 18:06 (UTC)

Is it possible to track the edit history of a particular page?
An edit I made to a page has been reverted. Is it possible to see the edit history and see who did which edit to which page? --216.100.94.74 (talk) 17:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * That's what the "History" tab at the top of each page does. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Can I simply add a company to an exisitng list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runtime_application_self-protection has a list of companies that are vendors of this product. Can I simply add another, publicly traded company to this list even if they do not have a page of their own? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camiller0630 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * No, such lists are only for companies that merit Wikipedia articles(which not every one does). 331dot (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Paid editor solicitation--how should I handle it?
Dear Help Desk editors,

Today I received a solicitation to have a Wikipedia article written about me. In addition to the expected advertising blurb, there was also this: We have been editing on Wikipedia for 9+ years and We've created tons of pages for companies, people, brands, products, and of course for academic purposes as well.

We own multiple accounts on Wikipedia with page curation and new page reviewer rights, so we can create and moderate pages with almost zero risk of another mod taking it down. which makes me suspect this is a real editor breaking our paid editing rules.

My main question: How should I handle this--is there a project to report to that tracks down rogue editors? Or is just ignoring it the best policy?

Thanks in advance for your guidance! -- 17:43, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If the people working for this company each have their own individual Wikipedia accounts, and comply with WP:PAID, it would be okay from a policy standpoint; if the company "owns" the accounts and they are used by different individuals, that is blockable per WP:NOSHARE. If they don't comply with WP:PAID, that is a Terms of Use violation and blockable.
 * No one can guarantee that a page cannot be taken down, although having the rights mentioned would make inappropriate pages harder to detect. 331dot (talk) 19:49, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course, the company could be lying. – Teratix ₵ 23:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I would ask for links to samples of their work. I would also ask if they are in compliance with the TOU and WP:PAID. There are scammers out there. If they aren't abiding by those guidelines they'll probably not respond to you. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 00:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you all for your advice. You're right, the rules surrounding paid editing are more nuanced than I had originally considered. I'll proceed with that in mind. -- 05:15, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Wiktionary in hatnotes
Is it appropriate to link sibling projects in hatnotes? For example, I was surprised to see that the article "Started" was written about the song. I don't disagree with this titling, however, I was wondering on principle whether it is appropriate or not to include a Wiktionary link here. Thanks. TheKaphox  T  19:10, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * TheKaphox Hatnotes are generally there to direct readers to other articles within Wikipedia. For a single-word title using an uncommon word without its own Wikipedia article, I think you might add a Wiktionary link as a parenthesis in the first sentence, a bit like when we give a translation of a foreign-language title: "Apophthegm (Wiktionary definition) is a 1973 film about...". But we have to assume that readers of English Wikipedia can parse common English words and their grammatical variants. The article does go into some detail about the lyrics and indicates why that title was chosen. Hope I've understood your question rightly Bhunacat10  (talk),  12:44, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

How to delete
how do i delete my 2 other list of local accounts what i did not meant to add — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patient support (talk • contribs) 19:13, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely clear on what you mean, but accounts cannot be deleted. If you created additional accounts for some reason and did not mean to, simply stop using them. 331dot (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Stressor
The entry on this fails to mention that the term "stressor: was coined in 1950 by Hans Selye to distinguish it from stress. {Paul J. Rosch, MD.FACP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.81.99 (talk) 19:33, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I would suggest bringing this up on the article talk page, where interested editors will see it. 331dot (talk) 19:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Calendar
Considering the above template, is there any way to get rid of the ugly double boldface setting of the month names, e. g. as in Template:Calendar?--Hildeoc (talk) 21:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Personally not quite seeing the problem here Hildeoc, but if you think it worth pursuing the template has its own talk page. If no response there you could try the Wikiproject Bhunacat10 (talk),  08:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)