Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 November 29

= November 29 =

Hometown error for Miss Georgia USA 2018
Dear Wikipedia,

Please update/correct the hometown for Miss Georgia USA 2018 from Brookhaven, Georgia, to Buford, Georgia. Brookhaven, Georgia, is the incorrect hometown.

Year	Name	Hometown	Age	Placement at Miss USA	Special awards at Miss USA	Notes 2018	Marianny Egurrola	Brookhaven	25	Top 10 Born in Colombia

Sincerely, L. Leighland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leigh Land (talk • contribs) 04:28, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Please provide a reliable source for this change (WP:RS). Make the change yourself and cite the source. If you are uncomfortable with making the change yourself, use the article's talk page to suggest the change and provide the source. Add the magic incantation request edit to have our software notify editors who do that sort of thing. -Arch dude (talk) 05:25, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

How to differentiate between two sources
I had posted this request before also but couldn't get right answer. I want to know wether "FORBES" or "FORBES MEDIA" are same website or different. I also looked about it on wikipedia perennial source noticeboard but I only found name of website "FORBES", then what about "FORBES MEDIA".Is " FORBES MEDIA " not reliable ? Please anyone make this clear because I want to update net worth of different people. Thanks (223.230.170.254 (talk) 04:40, 29 November 2019 (UTC))
 * Forbes Media LLC is the official name of the company itself, and it operates multiple outlets. The website Forbes.com is the generally unreliable one, though depends on the author if it's a contributor piece, though I think you can still find legit magazine articles there. Someguy1221 (talk) 05:04, 29 November 2019 (UTC)


 * You need to ask the folks who can help you, I think. We at the help desk are not all-knowing (I know this comes as a shock). The folks who can help are at Reliable sources/Noticeboard, so ask there. -Arch dude (talk) 05:20, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If the article says the author is "Forbes Staff", then it is usually a fine source, but if it says "Contributor" then it should not be cited. Be aware that most "net worth" articles are unreliable speculation from bloggers. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:47, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Process to create a new Brand page
Want to create a Wikipedia page for a Brand. So, I want to know more about the process to create a new Page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamdeeptyagi (talk • contribs) 08:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages". This is a subtle but important distinction in how to look at the process. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia has articles about subjects that have significant coverage in independent reliable sources which show how the subject meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability; in this case, the definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is not interested in sources related to the company/brand itself, such as the company website, staff interviews, press releases, routine announcements, or other primary sources.
 * If you have independent sources, I would suggest that you first use the new user tutorial and read Your First Article, both of which will help you understand the process. You can then visit Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review before it is(if accepted) formally placed in the encyclopedia.
 * If you work for this brand, you would have what is called a conflict of interest and be a paid editor. You are required to comply with those policies if that is the case.  This does make it harder to contribute information about the brand(if you work for it) as those policies explain. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 29 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I start to wonder whether the people who ask such questions have ever looked at Wikipedia. What existing examples of Brand Pages have you seen here?? —Tamfang (talk) 00:31, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

User templates
Do user templates go in user space or template space. Basically what is the appropriate name. Is it User:Username/Template name or Template:Template name/Username or something different. Sun Creator(talk) 08:26, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * User templates are (from what I've seen) usually kept in userspace as "User:Username/Template name". – Thjarkur (talk) 11:44, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sun Creator(talk) 16:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Assuming you're referring to userboxes, you should read WP:UBXNS, which explains why some userboxes are in the user namespace and others in the template namespace. The gist is: if you want to create a userbox that might be controversial in any way it should go in your userspace, but if there's no risk of any controversy it can go in the template namespace. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 13:47, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Not userboxes, but thanks anyway. Sun Creator(talk) 16:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

sadistic souls MC
I would like to change the information in the artical because it is incorrect — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.89.81.4 (talk) 18:54, 29 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP user. You are welcome to change the information in any article provided you have a reliable published source for any information you wish to add. You may not add information that has not been published, even if you know it to be true; and you may not remove any information which is cited to a source which appears reliable. If you have any doubt whether your edit is acceptable, discuss it on the talk page - in this case Talk:Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club - first, and gain consensus for the change. --ColinFine (talk) 19:15, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Template:Interlanguage link
I forgot the template code to creat a redlink that displays a link to an untranslated article in the meantime and have spent a lot of time fumbling around. After a while I recalled this French article and worked my way back from Modèle:Lien to Template:Interlanguage link and {{ill|, but I wonder which of the Help: articles would have eventually given the right hint: Help:interwiki linking doesn't seem to have anticipated my question. Sparafucil (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, {{U|Sparafucil}}. Help:Interlanguage links mentions it, though it does not give it great prominence. You are welcome to edit that page if you can improve it! --ColinFine (talk) 22:29, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I hope I've helped a future editor! Sparafucil (talk) 01:24, 30 November 2019 (UTC)