Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 November 7

= November 7 =

Clean up question
Is there a way to remove an article from a clean up page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by !matt2446 (talk • contribs) 01:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Howdy hello! What do you mean? Could you provide the article in question? Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Some of the Russian to English Wikipedia page have been fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by !matt2446 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

By "a clean up page" do you mean a Wikiproject page containing a list of articles that need attention? Such a page can be edited like any other. —Tamfang (talk) 03:33, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Redirects to a deleted page that was later restored
This is a follow-up to a discussion above. This article -- Clutter family murders -- was erroneously deleted ... and then restored. See above: Help desk. Before it was deleted, the article used to have quite a few redirects, directing to it. Now, after the article was restored, all of these redirects seem to be gone. Is there some quick and easy way to restore all of these redirect links? Or, how can I found out exactly what the redirect titles were, so I can recreate them all over again? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:38, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * AFAIK the only way would be to look in the deleting admins deletion log. Redirects to deleted pages are subject to Speedy deletion. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:17, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I found several deletions [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/Liz&offset=20191105154015&limit=13&type=&user=Liz] by another admin. I don't know whether it's all deletions. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. That's a good start. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * OK. I just recreated a bunch of the lost redirects.  Thanks.   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:19, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale
Ref number  5  is  in  red. Please fix  if  you  can. I cannot  do  it  here. Thanks in advance. 203.45.46.121 (talk) 04:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ MB 04:45, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

KINGSWOOD COLLEGE PAGE
Please could you remove the kingswood college page until further notice as it is being racially hated and being discriminated, it is putting a bad reputation on our school and is going viral and is trending on twitter. Please remove it, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.21.242.168 (talk) 11:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * You and a number of other IPs have been edit-warring and including unsourced material, so I have requested semi-protection. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * OP now blocked for repeated vandalism. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:29, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Got It I will Be checking in every once in a while to make sure no vandalism occurs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remembertienamen1989 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Can an editor with a COI nominate an article for WP:GA review?
Courtesy link: IWG plc. A user who works for IWG has nominated it for a GA review, is that allowed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArkayusMako (talk • contribs) 13:21, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Technically, yes, but in this case the article has a valid cleanup tag (among a bevy of other problems), so it's eligible to be quick-failed. – Teratix ₵ 13:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Uploading an old photo for article
So I was editing the article on Emanuele Grazzi and found a old photo which is in the public domain but I cannot upload it for some reason but look him up he Is a bald man with glasses dressed in a blackshirt uniform I would like to Upload that image. IS there any way I can?

Thanks for Taking time to look at this question

Sincerely Remembertienamen1989 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remembertienamen1989 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * There are several steps:


 * 1) click on this link for the Wikimedia Commons
 * 2) look in the area on the left for a link called "Upload file" and click it
 * 3) follow the prompts
 * 4) when it asks for a file name, change it to something useful. don't be afraid to type! "DCS0042.jpg" is 'not a good name. "Emanuele Grazzi.jpg" is much better. "Emanuele Grazzi at the opera in 1942.jpg" is even better

Note that this simply uploads the image. To place it in an article you have to add it, or change it if there's an existing image. To do so, Edit the article and look at any existing File: link and simply match it's syntax but with the new file name. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:59, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The image you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, commons:File:Emanuele Grazzi at the opera.jpg, has been tagged for deletion as you haven't explained why it's in the public domain. If it is deleted, however, it can be uploaded locally (i.e. to the English Wikipedia rather than to Commons), because per WP:NFCI non-free images of deceased people can be used in Wikipedia articles. You won't (yet) be able to upload it yourself, though, as editors whose accounts are less than four days old or who have less than ten edits can't upload files (you currently have eight edits). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 00:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

How to create a page with ALL CAPS name over existing redir
I'm writing a page that should be named "SNAP (programming language)". However, there is already a page called "Snap! (programming language)". It appears the system (or a user?) has created a redirect without the !, "Snap (programming language)".

I'm lost how to create a new page with the ALL CAPS name. When I try, wiki sends me to the redirect and then to Snap!. I can click back from the redir link, but that has sentence casing.

Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:54, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Try this link. Don't forget that if there are 2 articles which differ only in capitalisation, hatnotes are required, see WP:Naming conventions (capitalization).  The redirect from Snap (programming language) would probably need turning into a dab page. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Warning template for not using edit summaries
Hello! I've been working on creating a template to warn users who don't use edit summaries, because I couldn't find a template for that. But before I create this template, I was wondering if anyone knows of a template that does the same thing? It seems kind of weird there isn't already a template for this. TheAwesome Hwyh  17:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Template messages/User talk namespace shows uw-editsummary. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! TheAwesome  Hwyh  18:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Richard_Mór_de_Burgh,_1st_Baron_of_Connaught
This section contains an incorrectly formated family tree. I don't know which template can be used to request a cleanup.--GZWDer (talk) 17:41, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Bot flood?
There was a very sudden wave of edits from a large number of accounts. see image. Could this be sockpuppetry? Or is it a editathon or similar --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:11, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * See Wiki Ed/York University/Fake News, Fact-Finding, and the Future of Journalism (Fall). --David Biddulph (talk) 18:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Bbb23
Where is this text coming from?
 * This is the man that banned two of my friends accounts. So yes I am going to "vandalize" this.


 * The things put down were harmless like... he was caught by ash Ketchum And He is by great grand-dad


 * I want this man looked into for abuse of powers Even though this will not be an abuse of power

--Bbb23 (talk) 20:15, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , This was added in a template, Template:Adminstats/Bbb23. Reverted. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 20:21, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! --Bbb23 (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I've made a note on the main template's talk page, Template:Adminstats, that it's subpages should be protected. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 20:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

your editors
you should control your editors better, especially regarding alternative medicine. how many articles in this field are controlled by the Quackbust Stephen Barrett? Your articles are not just read by the Americans you know... but also many European where alternative medicine is recognized by the health system. I'm referring to articles such as that on Dr. Clark or on Bill Nelson. If you read an article and it only contains negative information from beginning to end, you should ask yourself a couple of questions, don't you thinK? ANd these articles report each the same link on "cancer methods that don't work"... really?? don't you ask yourself who's behind this, shouldn't it ring a bell?? Most people trust Wikipedia and have donate as myself because of this trust, therefore it is very disturbing that you are not more meticulous regarding certain subjects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.14.100.222 (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you have suggestions for improving an article, please start a discussion on that article's talk page. Information in an article should be sourced to a published,  reliable source.  If you see a case where it isn't please raise that also on the talk page.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Here is a message from (some of) our editors: Lunatic charlatans. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Trials, court proceedings etc
Is there any policy or guideline regarding the coverage of ongoing high profile criminal court proceedings? Sometimes for example there is a high profile murder case involving otherwise non-notable people in which the court proceedings are widely reported in detail by the media. I have in mind Death of Grace Millane, which is currently before the courts in NZ in all its sordid detail. Seems to me the best thing to do is wait for a verdict then summarise the prosecution and defence cases while trying to respect the privacy of the deceased and her family. I think it would be in bad taste to give a blow by blow account in the article, and nobody has done it yet... but they could, and if they did they could cite respected sources like the BBC, Guardian, NZ Herald etc. I can find nothing in wikipedia policy that would prevent anyone doing that, all we have is our sense of decency and decorum. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 22:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking. I think WP:BLPCRIME might be what you are looking for, which also has links on how to handle discussing suspects and victims.  RudolfRed (talk) 22:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:MURDEROF is also relevant but doesn't really cover the question. I think it would be a good idea to draw up some guidelines on this. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 22:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTNEWS, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:EXCESSDETAIL, WP:ONUS and WP:PL all strike me as good reasons to avoid giving blow-by-blow accounts of events. None are specific to court proceedings or crime-related articles, but I'm not sure we need a guideline covering those topics specifically when we have several that warn against that sort of thing more generally. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 00:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks to you both, I have removed unnecessary info from the article per WP:AVOIDVICTIM. We don't need to know about her family or where she went to school. Presumption is in favour of privacy. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 00:59, 8 November 2019 (UTC)