Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 November 8

= November 8 =

Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood
Sorry I  stuffed  up  totally  an   edit. 203.132.68.1 (talk) 00:54, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I undid it. Next time you can fix it yourself: go to the history page and select undo for the error edit.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry and  thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.132.68.1 (talk) 01:05, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Council on the Ageing (NSW) Page
Hi

My name is Meagan Lawson, I'm the CEO of Council on the Ageing (COTA) NSW.

I was made aware this morning that we had a wikipedia page, and that the information was out of date. I went and made some changes so it would accurately reflect our current arrangements - like the President of the organisation, changes to our mission and vision etc - some dude (Flyer22 Reborn) has now changed it all back and sent me a message saying -

Hello, I'm Flyer22 Reborn. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Council on the Ageing—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:35, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

I have since responded to him -

Hi Flyer - I'm not sure about how to do this, it is the first time I have edited a page - however, I am the current CEO of the organisation of the page I edited, and the changes I made were accurate. If we can't make these edits, I would prefer that the page didn't exist. Can I delete the page? Thanks, Meagan CEO COTA NSW

- but I'm a newbie, and besides donating each year for the last few years (because I love the idea of Wikipedia), I don't know how this works. The information I supplied was accurate and up-to-date, and as I pointed out to him, if I can't make those changes I would prefer the page just be deleted - can I do that?

Sorry this is long and rambly - like I said, I'm new to this and I really don't know how it works!

Thanks in anticipation of a response!

Meagan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.147.51 (talk) 05:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. A few things that you might want to read:


 * The Wikimedia Foundations Terms of Service
 * Our local policy on paid editing
 * the five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Ownership of articles
 * What Wikipedia is not
 * Verifabillity
 * for your notice. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the article is pretty borderline notability-wise. There's a few local newspaper pieces on the organisation and it's cited in a few ageing-related articles, but nothing special. – Teratix ₵ 09:42, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I've looked at your changes. The updating of information in the infobox, functions and "COTA Federation" section is fine. The addition of the mission statement, vision, the other sentences in the lead and the removal of the maintenance templates are not. If you are fine with that, please follow this this guide to place an edit request for the article. If you would rather the article be deleted, the editors here can help you make a request for deletion. Thanks, Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 05:39, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Photograph
Please, I need to know how to add a photograph to an article about a living person on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysil49 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Where is the photograph now? The answer depends a lot on your answer, e.g. "It's in my camera, I took it myself", or "It's at Wikimedia Commons", or "I found it on the internet". Maproom (talk) 07:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Oldest Verified People
Dear Sir/Madam Can you please check this page. I have numbered the men as they listed 0-100. A contributor insists on undoing it and leaving it in random order and out of any form of common sense. His reasoning is that we cant be sure who should be on the list and who shouldnt. The women however are listed and numbered correctly. I fear there is something amiss here. Either the list is the top `100 or it isnt. Many thanks Zane — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stomper 33 (talk • contribs) 07:33, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . There is no authority who can do this. Wikipedia is determined by consensus. Rather than edit warring, you should start a discussion on the talk page Talk:List of the verified oldest people, as you have been advised by . If the two of you (and any other editors who choose to get involved) cannot reach consensus, then dispute resolution tells you how to proceed.
 * I have no opinion on the question (I have not looked at the substance of the edits). But I will observe that "This isnt about 'consensus' it is simply about the natural law" is not a constructive approach to working in a collaborative project like Wikipedia. See Consensus. --ColinFine (talk) 09:57, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * An editor who makes an edit with the full expectation that it will be reverted while not justifying the edit beyond making grandiose claims about Wikipedia's purpose, who then declines the suggestion  to discuss the reasons for the edit per WP:BOLD, then edit wars the justified and explained revert  with false and unjustified claims of the intent and hollow threats, who then comes whinging to the help desk for support instead of going to the appropriate talk page, is someone who does not appear to intend or be capable of editing Wikipedia cooperatively.  Given the fraught history of the Longevity topic this would appear to be unwise.  DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 22:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Random Article Button
So when I signed up for Wikipedia I had this button on the top of my screen that says "Skip this article" and it would automatically select me an article that is either new or barely filled with information. I am hoping to get this back as this was a really good feature, after searching all around my settings I couldn't find anything that matched the same description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unpassionate (talk • contribs) 08:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If it said "Try another article" then it was GettingStarted. I don't always get the right interface but try starting at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?gettingStartedReturn=true and click "Edit a suggested article" if there is a box saying that. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you just want to find random articles then you can also click Random article at the top left of any page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:42, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

create an article
Dear editors, may I know how to create an article like this on Wikipedia pls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhuri_Dixit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amandaedirisingheg (talk • contribs) 10:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Successfully creating a new article is the hardest task on Wikipedia; it takes much time and practice. You would greatly increase your chances of success if you first spent a lot of time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, so you could get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is being looked for in article content and structure. Newer users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as their work that they spent hours on is mercilessly criticized and even deleted by others.  I don't want you to have any bad feelings, so I would strongly encourage you to edit existing articles first.
 * However, if you still want to attempt to write an article, you should first read Your First Article and also use the new user tutorial. You can then visit Articles for Creation to create and submit for review a draft article, so you get feedback before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards when it would be treated more critically.  Good luck. 331dot (talk) 10:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Citing translated texts
When citing a translated edition of an older text, would I put the year of release as that of the translation or that of the original source? I've been using the former, but having something like "Marco Polo (2003)..." at the top of the citation seemed a bit weird. Thanks. Alivardi (talk) 12:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Cite the date of the source that you consulted. If the source is a translation published in 2003 then that is the date you should use.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 12:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Alivardi (talk) 12:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Creating new redirects
When I create redirects, is there any way I can mark those as reviewed so someone else doesn't have to do it? Interstellarity (talk) 12:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * One way would be to apply for Autopatrolled. Maybe there is another though... Tigraan Click here to contact me 12:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Should I apply for autopatrolled? If not, what could I do instead? Interstellarity (talk) 13:33, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * In the normal run of things, I don't believe you have enough article creation experience for it to be granted (minimum 25 per WP:APAT). It can be granted without passing that threshold but I suspect it would not be, at least until you have completed the training programme you are undertaking. Eagleash (talk) 14:33, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thank you. That helps a lot. Interstellarity (talk) 14:41, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

How do I get placed on Wikipedia
I want to be placed on Wikipedia, how do I do it please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by DilanoDalion (talk • contribs) 17:13, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you mean how to have an article written on you - make something that causes reliable sources write on you (but please not by breaking laws...) and eventionally someone of the active editors out there will eventually write one. Of course there is a method to do that yourself - but autobiographys are strongely discouraged on Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Also understand that there are good reasons to not want a Wikipedia article. 331dot (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Help with either recovering username / password, or moving page to new account
I created a page for my work organization back in 2017. I now need to make some updates. I have no idea what user name or password I used over 2 years ago. And I got married since then, so it may be under my old email address.

How do I either recover my old username and password?

Or - I saw you could create a new account and "Move a page" to under that account. But I don't really understand how to do that.

And it took me 20 minutes to find this help desk.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Accessibilityassociation (talk • contribs) 17:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you had difficulty in getting here, but all of the seven billion on this planet use the internet and websites differently, it is hard to accommodate everyone and have every link where it is easy for everyone to find. You can certainly offer any ideas you have for improving this. Regarding your question, you would need to have attached an email to your old account under its Preferences to recover your password, and you would need to know the account name; if you did not do this, access to your original account is lost.  Your current username violates the username policy as it is the name of an organization; please visit Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS to make a username change request. 331dot (talk) 17:20, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * But,, since you have lost the login details of the account and its name is problematic, by far the easiest thing for you to do is to abandon it, and create a new account that is personal to you. There is absolutely no connection between the name of an account and the articles and other pages that are edited from that account. With a few exceptions, anybody (from any account, or without logging in) may edit any article. However, if you are planning to edit articles about your employer, you must read and comply with the restrictions on paid editing. Please understand that what you created was not "a page for" your employer, but Wikipedia's article about your employer; it should be almost entirely based on what people unconnected with the organisation have published about it, not what the organisation itself says; and somebody other than you should make the decision of what should go into the article, though you are welcome to make suggestions for change. --ColinFine (talk) 11:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The old account with the forgotten name and lost password is presumably not the new one with the problematic name, though of course the old one may have a similar name. —Tamfang (talk) 04:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


 * To find your old name, try this: open the article that you created, click "View history", scroll to the bottom. —Tamfang (talk) 04:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Modifications on the page about our company
Hello, We are having issues editing the following pages, that are about our management firm:

Aster (venture capital company) (URL)

fr:Aster (société de capital risque) (URL)

We suggested edits (minor ones) as well as updates on the recent developments (since 2017) a few months back but it has all been reverted to the previous text. Although we had included notes to source all information that we had added...

On the English version, it is stated that we are headquarted in the United states (in the top right box summarizing main information) which we are not. We are legally registered in Paris, at the same address as our offices: 26 avenue de l'Opéra - 75001, Paris

Would you please be able to edit this HQ information (which could be a problem for potential clients who want to invest in French funds and not US registered ones), and also tell me how I can make edits that will be accepted ?

Thank you very much and have a good weekend. Best

Auxence Moulin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.154.66.154 (talk) 19:03, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello Auxence. Start by reading the following: WP:COI, WP:COIDISCLOSE, and WP:PAID, and then just follow the instructions on Template:Request_edit and post your suggested edits on the article's talk page. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * And note that we cannot give you any advice about the French Wikipedia: each project is independent, and has its own rules. I imagine that fr-wiki has similar restrictions about COI and paid editing, but I don't know. --ColinFine (talk) 11:18, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Springfield High
Where can I find the Springfield High basketball schedule for 2019-20?William Grant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.18.195 (talk) 21:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * This page is for asking for help with using Wikipedia, not general questions, sorry. You might try your preferred search engine or contacting the school directly. 331dot (talk) 21:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Editing the Definition of Fine Art Photography
Team: For some time now, I am disturbed by what I suggest is not accurate and perhaps misleading in the first part of the current posted definition. I have already wrote an updated version to replace the first three sentences, and need direction/advice how to properly and effectively complete the edit (add citation if needed) and also add who and when added this edit? Thank you.

Kind regards, Lance A. Lewin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llewin2019 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The user making an edit is automatically logged in the edit history of the article. You can just make the edit yourself, but if you think your proposed change will be controversial, you should first discuss it on the article talk page with the other editors that follow that article. 331dot (talk) 21:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Guess, I am a bit confused with User:331dot page. Who is User:331dot?? I did not see any section to start conversations on my subject. Your continued assistance is appreciated. Thank you.

Lance A. Lewin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llewin2019 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I am 331dot, a Wikipedia user just as you are. If you visit Talk:Fine-art photography you will see in a box near the top of the page the words "Click here to start a new topic".  Click that and it will open an edit window for you to describe the changes you want to make to that article, just as you edited this page to ask your question. 331dot (talk) 00:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Good evening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llewin2019 (talk • contribs) 00:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)