Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 October 20

= October 20 =

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Hi. I'm having trouble with Template:Infobox cycling hill climb. It seems to be putting in an extra line above it in articles. For example - Cauberg Kemmelberg Muur van Geraardsbergen. I can't see anything wrong with the syntax. Can you help please? Thanks Mertbiol (talk) 02:42, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * * Pppery * it has begun... 03:18, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. Knew it would be something which looked trivial, but was in fact important! Mertbiol (talk) 03:42, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Exclude day of week from a date?
Is there a WP guideline on excluding the day of the week from a date, for example: Sunday, 20 October 2019? Thanks, WWGB (talk) 03:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything (MOS:DATE is silent about this), but IMO, as a general rule it should be excluded, unless there's something relevent about the day of the week (e.g. Sunday, December 7, 1941). Clarityfiend (talk) 19:54, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

The true creators of the constitution
Greetings,,, I am an Autochthon Aborigine American the first people of America and the creators of true law. With the great amount of genocide taken place here in america many believe we are no more, however we are still here. in fact many are taking part in the genocide directly and or indirectly as this article on your site plainly displays. allow me to educate..... in searching for the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States, and choosing Wikipedia to read, I find I must set the facts right. It is a fact that before any colonizers came to America, there were ONLY copper Color people here in this land called America, north, central, south and all her Islands. According to Etymology the title "American" only applied to the copper color people of America. As Immigrants came upon our land they began calling themselves Americans. Walter Ashby Plecker who was an eugenics member, was a hateful racist who in the early 1900s Passed the "Racial Intregdy Act" as well as created the department of vital statistics and the birth certificate. Walter Ashby Plecker changed the Identity of Aborigine American Indians to "Colored" and through time other political constructs such as Black, Negro, African-American, were created for the purpose of genocide. So it is of no surprise that the hiding of the truth would also exist here. According to H.Con.Res. 331 In the senate of the United States October 5 ( Legislative day, September 26), 1988, Says" CONCURRENT RESOLUTION To acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution and to reaffirm the continuing Government-to-Government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution. Whereas the original framers of the Constitution, including most notably, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, are known to have greatly admired the concepts of the Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy, Whereas the Confederation of the original Thirteen Colonies into one republic was the influence by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the constitution. It is clear that The copper color people of America miss identified today as colored or African American or Black are the lineage of the creators of the constitution. The constitution was not created by colonizers, but Aborigine Americans to protect our people. It is referring to Aborigine copper-colored people when it says "We The People" It is Aborigine people protecting what is ours from the acts of the colonizers which for many has become to violate the law. No court can interpret the constitution but are sited by people who take an Oath to uphold the Constitution and the treaties created along side it. and no British law or any other laws of colonizers have anything to do with the shaping of the constitution and all must take an oath to uphold it upon entering America and must renounce any other jurisdiction or laws their of. Statutes, codes, policies, and rules are for corporations and the United States Has incorporated all of its citizens for the purpose of taxation. This does not apply to Aborigine Indians. All immigrants are bound by the laws of their governing corporation Washington DC however Aborigine Indians have their own government and the US government is in debt to Aborigine people of America (Indians) forever. According the The Constitution of the United States Article 1, section 2, Clause 3 Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed three fifths of all other Persons. It is time for the truth for all. give credit to the true creators of the constitution the true Aborigine coppor colored people of America. we are still here!!!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.244.57 (talk) 04:28, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please find an alternative value to pursue your agenda. Thanks, Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 09:28, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Or even an alternative venue. I gather that it's not hard to find free space for a personal website. —Tamfang (talk) 22:54, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Why is a pole considered the tallest building? The US Bank IS the tallest building in Los Angeles.
Ditto47.39.105.7 (talk) 04:42, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about the article List of tallest buildings in Los Angeles? OkayKenji (talk page) 04:45, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * If you are then List of tallest buildings in Los Angeles says: 'This includes spires and architectural details but does not include antenna masts.' Wilshire Grand Center says: 'The building, while recognized as "tallest" in the city by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, achieves this recognition through the height of its decorative sail and spire rather than highest occupiable floor space.' PrimeHunter (talk) 09:44, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This is the kind of question you want to ask at the talk page of that article. A fuller, and longer lasting, discussion with people who are watching and interested in that article would ensue. You might be able to get the article changed. I doubt it, because apparently the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat thinks its the tallest building in LA. And we generally go with what they say. Altho in this case you have a legit point, that stupid pole. It's not really the tallest building in LA, according to common sense and perception, so it might be possible to marshal enough good sources saying this to get a change thru. Herostratus (talk) 10:00, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

How can I write new article?
I want create new Articles,but how I can do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ephraimsklyansky (talk • contribs) 11:41, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I've written a guide that reduces article writing to about 9 steps, as part of a larger guide covering a variety of issues new users face. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:44, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Successfully writing a new article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia. You will be much more likely to be successful if you first build up experience by editing existing articles, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is looked for in articles. However, if you still want to attempt to write an article, you should read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial. You can then submit a draft using Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 11:48, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

We need a template to answer this question which is asked every few hours either here or in Teahouse. —Tamfang (talk) 22:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Correcting/Updating/Removing Incorrect Information
I am creating a personal list of Medal of Honor recipients from World War II through the current conflict in Afghanistan.

While reviewing the information on the page of Brian L. Buker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_L._Buker), the "Biography" section states he is one of three Medal of Honor recipients from Maine; the other names listed are Specialist Fourth Class Thomas J. McMahon and Sergeant Donald S. Skidgel.

In fact, there are at least two additional recipients from Maine (Master Sergeant Gary I. Gordon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gordon) and Sergeant Edward C. Dahlgren (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_C._Dahlgren).

I have not completed the list, therefore, I strongly suspect there are more recipients from Maine. Based on the additional names I have found thus far, what is the appropriate course of action to correct this error? Should it be removed and updated with the names of the remaining Maine recipients based on the total number, if feasible?

Thanks. Jdyates751 (talk) 18:20, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Try reading again. Brian L. Buker says "He was one of three people from Maine to receive the medal in Vietnam".  Neither Gary Gordon nor Edward C. Dahlgren were awarded for action in Vietnam. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:26, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

how to remove wikidata link from article
How can I remove the wikidata link from Sankya (novel)? In edit view, it displays under "Wikidata entities used in this page", and in read view, it displays at the top of the page. I tried removing it at wikidata but failed with the error "Sitelinks should only be removed if the page in question has been deleted, or if that link is being moved into another item". The wikidata item has nothing to do with the novel article. Schazjmd  (talk)  19:20, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * fixed it, thank you! Schazjmd   (talk)  19:38, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Wikidata item had been the subject of numerous erroneous edits by an editor who has been repeatedly trying to write an autobiography. I reverted the Wikidata item to its previous state. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:41, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism?
This page appears to be vandalized (?) --> Template:Userbox. It looked much different and more "normal" yesterday. I cannot edit the page or revert the last few edits. Please advise. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:18, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * - I have restored the /doc page that was recently vandalized. GermanJoe (talk) 21:25, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks!  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:04, 21 October 2019 (UTC)