Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 October 5

= October 5 =

G5 REFUND
According to WP:REFUND, G5 deletions should not be requested there, and a DRV to restore a large number of related G5 deletions was recently closed as endorse. However, this is contradicted by WP:CSDRFU which specifies that G5 deletions will be restored upon request if they are requested by an uninvolved (i.e. not banned) editor. Which is correct? I seem to recall G5 allowing uninvolved editors to request restoration at one point as long as they took responsibility for the content, but that language is no longer there. Can we please get clarification on this and fix whichever page is incorrect? Smartyllama (talk) 01:27, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I want to say "Thank you"!
Early today I requested help ("Need Help Uploading Photos") uploading photos to the page of Allen B. Wilson, sewing machine inventor. Arch Dude and Grabergs Graa Sang kindly replied. Now I don't know how to communicate with them on my post, so I will thank them here. Signed, Totally Clueless NsnskzNsnskz (talk) 02:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm glad you were helped. To add to an existing topic here, (if it's still here and hasn't been archived) it's best to go to that section and edit it, rather than add a new section. To notify particular users, there are various methods (see PING): I use the u template, so I write to get, and similarly . Once I sign my reply and publish it, those two users will get notified of this section. --ColinFine (talk) 10:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
After reference number 131, there is a space which is too big - just before the next paragraph begins. Please fix as I cannot. Thanks 175.33.248.139 (talk) 03:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * After your last edit you had a 4th level section title "====VAD nurse====" in an area that had other 3rd level section titles, e.g. "===Beechwood and Newton Park Estates===". Your title occupied some vertical space.
 * Later, someone removed your title, possibly because of the 3rd/4th level mismatch? They replaced it with a blank line. Now there were two blank lines between the paragraphs. Thus the extra vertical space.
 * Removing the extra blank line fixed the spacing problem you mentioned. Looks good? Shenme (talk) 03:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I want to help the world on all types of environmental science and technology including  spiritualism.. Want  to know any  rules restrict  etc
Respected Management ....thankful to u all for  granting  opportunity to  being  here with  ur great  Wikipedia.... I just  want  to know  restrict  limits  for  publication of Articles etc                              Regars... Muhammad Islam Anjum Thaheem Adv chairman international liasion committee LHCBA 2019-20...$[number redacted]$ — Preceding unsigned comment added by M I Anjum Thaheem chairman international liasion committee LHCBA for Environmental (talk • contribs) 03:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * All Wikipedia does is cite, summarize, and paraphrase professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources, without addition, nor commentary.
 * We are not a platform for sharing one's beliefs (no matter how sincerely held or noble) -- see WP:NOTPROMO and WP:NOR.
 * Also, it's highly recommended that you do not post personal contact information such as phone numbers or email addresses. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:10, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection, but not?
Article Expulsions and exoduses of Jews throws up a large warning on the edit page mentioning the 500/30 restrictions for extended confirmed protection aka WP:ECP. The talk page similarly mentions the restrictions and arbitration remedies due to presence of ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement. However, peeking at the page's history shows it is editable by even zero edit IPs.

I did not page through more than a few of the ~1400 actually protected pages seen at Special:ProtectedPages. But somehow I have to think this page is not mentioned in the list. The template was added in 2014 before the ECP became useful for these pages. And so I'm left wondering whether the actual protection was imposed on this page later in 2016.

Questions:
 * does an active ECP actually prevent the IP edits I'm seeing?
 * if ECP is not active, where does the nasty warning on article edit come from?
 * is there any coordination between use of ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement and active imposition of ECP?
 * how many pages are announced in edit/talk as 'protected', but are not actually so protected?


 * oh, and where *should* I be asking these questions? :) Shenme (talk) 03:37, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This criteria was set by the Arbitration Committee because this is a long dispute involving Edit-Warring Personal attacks and other violations of Wikipedia policy. Since there are a lot of pages in this dispute, they aren't all protected. If a non-extendedconfirmed user edits these, they are usually notified that there are arbcom restrictions on that page, and they are asked to self-revert (I don't know if they are also asked if they yust corrected a typo). These warnings are loaded via Template:Editnotice, see there for an explanation. If some of these pages actually requires protection, it will almost certain be ECP for a longer period or full in case of edit-warring. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:20, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * There are a total of 299 pages with this editnotice but which aren't under protection. I mentioned this at Template talk:ArbCom Arab-Israeli editnotice and arbcom clerk Kevin/L235 has provided a detailed response. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Untitled
12 years ago — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gani Ismail Gashi 100 (talk • contribs) 11:48, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia or is your comment somehow related to the post above? If it is a 'test' please don't do that. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:37, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

E789999
I saw that user:E789999 created another account citing the reason "So if my other account gets banned from editing." I am not sure if or where I should report this. CLCStudent (talk) 14:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I would notify him about WP:SOCKLEGIT and say that, "[s]anctions apply to individual editors as people, not to accounts. Using a second account to edit in violation of an active block or community sanction will result in further sanctions, which may include removal of your contributions. See also WP:EVASION." (From WP:BADSOCK). If he edits from that account, and hasn't disclosed it, or while he is blocked, simply use Twinkles "ARV"-Tab and report for socking. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:56, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

JerzyA (talk) 14:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC) my issue is not urgent for me personally, but I would describe it as a project security issue.
it concerns security, and perhaps a special categorie of false flag edits. --JerzyA (talk) 14:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . It's probable that the lack of response to your post is because nobody has the slightest idea what you are talking about, or what kind of response you are looking for. --ColinFine (talk) 09:55, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

How Do I Edit an Info Box?
Sektzia Nes Tziona F.C. says "Israeli Premier League" for current league and 2018-2019 league. In 2018-2019, they were in Liga Leumit and earned promotion to the Israeli Premier League. EvanJ35 (talk) 19:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Infoboxes sometimes pull data from other pages. In this case it was from Template:Israeli football updater which has no documentation. I looked at the template code and fixed the data.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Israeli_football_updater&diff=919792800&oldid=912789734] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Old maps - unsure if I can use them in articles
Hello,

would someone better versed in Copyright issues etc. be able to tell me if either of the two maps on these pages are ok to use on Wikipedia?


 * https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TERRITOIRE-DU-NIGER-French-West-Africa-Afrique-Occidentale-Francaise-1929-map-/273572034992


 * http://pedagogie.lyceesaviodouala.org/histoire-geographie/app_grande-guerre/pages/page_2b.htm

Sdrawkcab (talk) 21:21, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't think so. You need to ask in commons. These maps are subject to European copyright policies. They are still not in public domain because it has not been 100 years since the author death.--SharabSalam (talk) 01:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The author of the first map died >70 calendar years ago, so it is no longer under French proprietary laws, should be okay to upload to Commons. I can't find the source of the second one. – Thjarkur (talk) 02:42, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * thanks guys for the help!

Sdrawkcab (talk) 14:16, 6 October 2019 (UTC)