Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 October 8

= October 8 =

Creating a Topic
How do I link websites to a article im making if im using a Kindle Paperwhite Experimental Browser? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWaka090 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Cyclist
I rode my Bicycle 1300 miles to the UCI World Road Racing Championships that were held this year in Harrogate, England. While watching the race as a spectator I stood next to a women whos son was taking part in the Mens Junior Individual Time Trial. This kid of hers had some very impressive results prior to the worlds. He placed third in the Belgian National Road Race for juniors and won the Belgian National Individual Time Trial. Upon arriving home i looked him up on the web and was surprised to find very little on him. The UCI, Union Cyclist International, the governing body for cyclists has all his results but nothing on him on either Youtube nor on wikipedia.

To make a long story short. I wanted to make a page for this kid who actually deserves to be seen by the world considering his palmares as a cyclist. He is 17 and it wont be long before i big teams signs him. He has had offers already but he is smart and wants to finish his years as a junior first as well as to finish school.

Now, the page i made for him is in draft form, not yet published for real, but with a slight mispelling of his name. His middle name should be capitalized. As in Van and not van. But i am not able to change the title/page move as it is known.

Should i just write another page or wait for the page to get published? Getting the page mover right seems to be a big step here and there are people that have been denied this right even after years of contributing so now sure how to proceed.

Page in question is here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lars_van_Ryckeghem I have done a bit of web publishing in the past using wordpress but this is a whole different ballgame that i enjoy.

As you can see his middle name is not quite right. Are the mods able to edit this for me even though this is in draft form and not on the wiki yet?

Thanks Enve Envy — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnveeNV (talk • contribs) 02:29, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, some useful links have been left at your talk page, please study them carefully, particularly the 'first article' link. You should also read WP:NCYC for a sport-specific guide to notability ( see that page for more information). Per the notability guidelines, Wikipedia reports on what has been written about a subject in independent reliable sources. If you are unable to find WP:SIGCOV of the subject, then it will be difficult to demonstrate notability in the Wikipedia sense and an article would not be accepted into the encyclopedia.  Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: The draft has been deleted under WP:G7. Eagleash (talk) 04:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Scribunto-lua-notarrayreturn
MediaWiki:Scribunto-lua-notarrayreturn In arz.wikipedia if we use the infobox person template without entries like this { {Infobox person} }, it will create the info depending on wikidata perfectly except for the error under image. '''Script error: The module returned a $2 value. It is supposed to return an export table.''' anyone know how to solve it? or what the module causing it? HitomiAkane (talk) 04:31, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * This help desk is for the English language Wikipedia. If you have questions regarding the arz wikipedia you need to ask there. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:22, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You can ask at WT:LUA or (if that goes unanswered) at WP:VPT. It would be best if you set up a sandbox at your Wikipedia which demonstrates the problem, then link to that. Johnuniq (talk) 06:53, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Fixed, you were invoking an empty module arz:وحدة:ملعب/Mr. Ibrahem/find3 (so this error has been showing since May). (And what a brainteaser it is programming in a mix of left-to-right and right-to-left scripts – the bracket's orders are seemingly random) – Thjarkur (talk) 10:11, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * thank you so much, you saved me a months of searching. HitomiAkane (talk) 10:25, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

clerical error maybe?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_content

Public domain images may need to be re-evaluated by a re-user because it depends on each country's copyright laws what is in the public domain there

Public domain images may need to be re-evaluated by a re-user because it depends on each country's copyright laws that are in the public domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkViper (talk • contribs) 07:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I would prefer the slightly less confusing

Public domain images may need to be re-evaluated by a re-user because what is in the public domain in a country depends on its copyright laws.
 * Maproom (talk) 07:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * , the place to suggest edits to that policy is Wikipedia Talk:Reusing Wikipedia content. Add Edit fully-protected to your suggestion to make sure it's seen. --ColinFine (talk) 10:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

The article modification problem
Dear Sir or Madam, I am writing to you in connection with the article about Pałac myśliwski w Promnicach. From last year The Castle Museum in Pszczyna has been the owner of this lovely place, but the name given in this article is incorrect, so I decided to edit some information.

Unfourtenly, We have huge problem to change these informations, beacuse redactor Zwiadowca21 refuses our explanations. It all comes from the history, co it is not our imagination, that the name of this place and many other informations are different than in this article.

We would be verty gratefull if you could do something in this matter, because the situation, when unautorised person refuses historical fact, archives and many other basic information can not be acceptable.

I look forward to hearing from you, Yours faithfuly, Jacek Skrzypczyk

Visitor Relations Manager The Castle Museum in Pszczyna — Preceding unsigned comment added by JacekSKrzypczyk (talk • contribs) 08:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * If you are talking about an English Wikipedia article, can you please give us a wikilink to it? If you are talking about the Polish Wikipedia article pl:Pałac myśliwski w Promnicach we can't help here on enwiki, and you'll need to ask at the Polish Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * It must be on the Polish Wikipedia because hasn't edited in English since June and we don't have an article on Pałac myśliwski w Promnicach.   Dbfirs  09:32, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you very much for your response. I have already written my question on polish Wiki's site.JacekSKrzypczyk (talk) 06:05, 15 October 2019 (UTC)JacekSKrzypczyk

OK. Some issues...
I tried to improve the Chris Redfield (from the Resident Evil franchise) article by adding in missing info, and I got reverted each time, with one moderator saying it's needless. Hereby making me feel like I wasted my time.

Also, I was accused of adding vandalism to the John Cena page too with a "final warning" giving, even though Mr. Cena himself personally stated he is not wrestling for WWE as much as he was before, due to his age, making him semi-retired. So I added a citation to where he said this, and that's supposedly me committing vandalism. Just doesn't seem right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ChewNaChunkx&oldid=920116360

ChewNaChunkx (talk) 11:45, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, a final warning for this sourced edit was inappropriate, sometimes those who are very active in anti-vandal work do mistakes when reverting, because these messages are all standardized and sent with one click of a button. You can usually reach out to the other user and dicuss it with them. There aren't moderators for content here, we're all just editors like you, if you were reverted, you can discuss the changes at Talk:Chris Redfield. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:16, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You should discuss the edits with the other editors involved, preferably at the article talk page. Or you could reply to their messages at your talk page (it doesn't help if you just delete messages...especially welcome messages containing much useful information). Add a ping to the start of your replies to attract their attention and sign the message (all in one edit or it won't work). FWIW I do not think that your additions added much, if anything, to the page and it is not altogether surprising that they were removed. With regard to Cena no source was supplied to verify that he is 'semi-retired' this is an assumption made on your part based on what he has said. This you should not do. On another point, IMDb is not a reliable source (see WP:UGC) and should be used very sparingly if ever. Having said that, the final warning was possibly a little harsh (IMO). I would have regarded the edits as 'not helpful' but WP:AGF and if removed, an explanation in the edit summary might have been sufficient. However, there seems to be some 'history' in respect of these pages.
 * BTW Wikipedia does not have 'moderators'. In the normal run of things, any and every editor can add or remove content as they see fit. Wikipedia has 'Administrators' who have access to additional tools to help sort out problems. If edits are disputed, see WP:BRD for how to proceed. Articles are improved through discussion and collaboration and it should not be taken personally if your edits are undone. Eagleash (talk) 14:29, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Adding ping for if they wish to add any comments. Eagleash (talk) 14:29, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello everyone. You can easily reach me at my or your talk page to discuss any issue. Everytime I left a message you always removed it, so the only route I saw was to increase the warnings level 1, level 2, level 3 and then level 4 is a "final" warning. The first one was due to you not using citations, which was mainly to give you links to learn how. The second was for still not using citations, and same thing with the third, you still were not using sources after two months of editing. In hindsight labeling the Cena edit as "vandalism" might have been harsh, but you tried to say a living person was semi-retired from their profession, without a very reliable source saying that. In the interview you cited he does not say he is "semi-retired", but that is what you added to the first sentence of the article. That is WP:SYNTH. Going over your last few edits, you have been citing sources now which is very good. However, stop by WP:PW/RS, because the sources you are citing are not professional websites and they fall under unreliable sources. As long as you are citing reliable sources and only including content that can be found in the cited source, you will do just fine here. StaticVapor  message me!   20:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Stranger Synths
Stranger Synths are Bulgarian electronic music duo selectors consisting of Dragomir Donchev and Nikolay Vajarov. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.182.41.2 (talk) 13:45, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, do you have a question relating to editing or using Wikipedia? If so please post it in this thread and provide a link to any page you need help with. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:05, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Reply link script
I am having problems with the 's reply link script. It doesn't work at all at the Teahouse. I tried to get a hold of Enterprisey to fix the problem, but he did not respond. I have forked the script (User:Interstellarity/reply-link.js). Can anyone help me with this? Interstellarity (talk) 22:53, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It's conflicting with User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/teahouseTalkbackLink.js. Remove TeahouseTalkbackLink from your common.js and then reply-link works again. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not working with help desk. Interstellarity (talk) 23:27, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I could reproduce your problem at the help desk by using your script setup, but I don't notice any problem here. Does it work if you remove all other scripts from your common.js? – Thjarkur (talk) 23:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Nope, it doesn't work. Interstellarity (talk) 12:08, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What happens? Do no "(reply)" links show up, or does nothing happen when you click on "(reply)"? Does this currently only happen on this page or also at other pages? – Thjarkur (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There is a (reply) link. I get this message when I try to reply here: "There was an error while replying! Please leave a note at the script's talk page with any errors in the browser console, if possible.". I also reproduced the error on my talk page. Interstellarity (talk) 14:23, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What is the error displayed in your browser's console? (In Chrome, it is opened with "View→Developer→Javascript Console") – Thjarkur (talk) 15:55, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please see the screenshot I have uploaded. Interstellarity (talk) 16:09, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok so turns out the script couldn't handle the letter "Þ" in my username and was looking for "%C3%9E". I never noticed this problem because I'm not replying to myself. Does this diff fix your problem? – Thjarkur (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have imported your code to the reply link script and deleted my reply link script. It still does not solve the problem. Interstellarity (talk) 16:48, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thjarkur's patch fixes it for me. I've updated the script for everyone accordingly. Let me know if the problem persists. Enterprisey (talk!) 05:27, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

The YTB 803 Article is incorrect.
I am contacting you about the YTB 803 Nantikoke article on this site. The information about where the boat was stationed is incorrect. It did not spend it's entire carrier in San Franciso. The 803 was attached to Fleet Air Carribbean. I was a crewman on that boat during 1993 at Naval Station Roosevelt Roads, Ceiba Puerto Rico. The boat was always attached to that base. Whoever made said article is ill informed on the matter. I will post a picture of the boat as proof of me serving on her. I took this photo myself.

Please correct the mistake that has been made on this page before someone from Fleet Air Carribbean calls you on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rigg982 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The claim in the article is unreferenced, so you are welcome to remove it yourself. If you can point us to a WP:Reliable source that indicates where the boat was based in which years, then we can improve the accuracy and quality of the article.   Db<i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  16:53, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Problem with OpenStreetMap
Many pages, such as National Register of Historic Places listings in Fulton County, Georgia have a link to OpenStreetMap that maps the location of all of the items. This is not working for me now (it used to work). I get the error "502 Bad Gateway - nginx/1.13/6". Can this be fixed? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:27, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Seeing the same issue as well. OkayKenji (talk page) 05:39, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at it says something along the lines that toolserver was shutdown in 2014. So maybe thats why the error is occurring, but it may also be unrelated? OkayKenji (talk page) 06:06, 10 October 2019 (UTC) sorry I was incorrect. But using the wayback machine as of April 24 2019 the https://tools.wmflabs.org/osm4wiki/ page said "OSM for Wikipedia Project coming soon... " but now gives the bad gateway error... (https://web.archive.org/web/20190424163842/https://tools.wmflabs.org/osm4wiki/) . Also looking at T220164 and wmde:Benutzer Diskussion:Plenz/OSM for Wiki it looks like there is a “recent” issue causing the shutdown.OkayKenji (talk page) 06:21, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, because it worked until recently. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 15:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Idea - Why articles are top read
Hi, it is not a question but a feature request. I often look at the top read article and wonder "why now?". It'd be good to see the reason why an article is widely read on a specific day. What I'm doing now is I go to a page and search for the current year to see what's new. However, it doesn't always work since some articles are popular because another article is popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.167.109.62 (talk) 17:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Top 25 Report is updated every week and includes explanations about why an article was so popular. But if you're talking about the section "Today's featured article" on the front page, those are chosen manually. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:06, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that today's featured article is also not necessarily the most popular articles, it's some of the best written articles, and have to pass quite a stringent peer review at WP:FA Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:19, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Super Bowl LV Article
I put www//tampabaylv.com but it didn't Work. But it was a mistake so i corrected the mistake and put www.tampabaylv.com and it was right. so i fixed the mistake anyway. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2019 (UTC) Why Didn't You Answer Me. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 13:36, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Because you didn't ask a question. Eagleash (talk) 13:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Our name has been hijacked on Wikipedia and is linked to another page
Hi Wikipedia brains trust,

I'm just wondering how we can fix our Wikipedia dilemma. I'm with the University of Technology Sydney at the Faculty of Engineering and IT. Apparently in the past, someone has linked our faculty with The University of Sydney, Faculty of Engineering and IT. There has been numerous attempts to make edits to change it back, but it is like Groundhog Day and the same error continues to perpetuate as the changes are directed back to the rouge email address which nobody can access (including the University of Sydney).

If you search for UTS Faculty of Engineering and IT the result is a combination of both universities, then if you suggest an edit, it directs you to the University of Sydney page and our university (University of Technology Sydney) is not listed anywhere.

Here's the page link: https://www.google.com/search?q=UTS+faculty+of+engineering+and+IT&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-e

Is anyone out there able to help? Apparently this dilemma has been ongoing for a couple of years with no solution. BTW it's probably obvious, but I am not an IT expert :)

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Cheers, Robyn BardenR (talk) 23:21, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello . I can't find which Wikipedia article you are talking about. I've found University of Technology Sydney, and the disambiguation page UTS. --ColinFine (talk) 23:27, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah. Are you talking about what Google is showing? That has absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia. (Often Google adds "Wikipedia" when it has collected information from different sources, but the Google search you give doesn't even do that). There is a "Feedback" link at the bottom. --ColinFine (talk) 23:30, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I see "Wikipedia" after a quote from Faculty of Engineering, University of Sydney. Our stock answer:
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:40, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks so much ColinFine and PrimeHunter for your quick reply. 138.25.213.162 (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2019 (UTC). Yes, I was referring to the knowledge graph and will check out the feedback link 138.25.213.162 (talk) 01:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC).138.25.213.162 (talk) 01:16, 9 October 2019 (UTC)