Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 September 10

= September 10 =

Harriet Martineau
Ref number  8  -  I  could  not  find  the  publisher  -  please  leave  in  quote  and  fix  up  with  publisher. thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Publisher is NOT, repeat NOT, a required parameter, as clearly shown by the examples given at Template:Cite web. Please please please read the documentation of the templates which you are using.  --David Biddulph (talk) 03:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes I  will  leave  it  -  I  had thought  it  looked  wrong -  but  I  will  certainly  leave  it.  Sorry. Srbernadette (talk) 03:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

TULUNADU renamed to KANARA
HI Team,

you have been removed tulunadu and reanmed it as KANARA. please note that udupi D.K and kasargod districts comes under tulunadu district and the spoked language is tulu. because of majority in karnataka. kannada people forcibly changing this name. we have our own culture and diversity please try to wipe it. we have our own language which is tulu. similarly madikeri/coorg have their language kodava. kannada people are forcing to remove all the native language. please consider this request and revert the name from KANARA to TULUNADU. you can call uthara kannda as KANARA or kannada language. but the other parts are tulu region. karnataka is not about kannada. karnataka have kannada tulu beary konkani kodava major languages. please check and post the truth. Dakshina Kannada, kasaragod and udupi is in TULUNADU and not KANARA

page link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vickyamin (talk • contribs) 08:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * This concern has already been raised above here. Please do not ask the same or similar questions multiple times. Also, this help desk is "only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia" (see blue notice on top). If you'd like to discuss article-related concerns, please start a new thread at Talk:Kanara, providing independent reliable sources for your arguments. You could also post a brief notice at WT:INB to invite feedback from other interested editors, but try to keep the discussion itself centralized in 1 spot. If a talkpage discussion doesn't resolve the issue, WP:dispute resolution would be the next step. GermanJoe (talk) 08:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC) Archived.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:28, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

How to deal with a user that refuses to work on a consensus on a contentious issue?
refuses to discuss whether Suriname is a presidential or parliamentary republic on the talk page and present his case for why he thinks it is a parliamentary republic. I have been reverting his edits, and urging him to discuss on the talk page and work on reaching a consensus with other editors, but he has repeatedly refused to do so. How do we resolve this issue? Fuse809 (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 12:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Nvm, found the WP:DR article. Sorry, should have gone there first. Fuse809  (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 13:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Quechua Empire, NOT Inca Empire
I visited Machu Picchu in 2016 and the guide explained to me that the Inca was the leader of the Quechua people. He said that the word 'Inca' in the Quechua language means King, Emperor, Ruler. He explained that calling the Quechua cultural group by the name 'Inca' is like calling Americans 'Presidents', or the British 'Kings' or 'Queens'. He also asked us to spread the word when we got home that it was the Quechua people who built Machu Picchu, not the Incas.

I am doing as requested, and trying to honour the true builders. The Quechua people built it for their successive Incas. The successive Incas of the Quechua people did not build it single-handedly.

I have no verifiable evidence, other than my testimony that an official guide at Machu Picchu provided this information, in an attempt to correct the internationally inappropriate use of the term 'Inca Empire', in place of the allegedly correct terminology, 'Quechua Empire'.

Is it possible/permissable to update all references to the Inca Empire as being the Quechua Empire, led by their Incas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OzGKW (talk • contribs) 13:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


 * What your guide told you is consistent with what Wikipedia says at Inca_Empire. Wikipedia titles its article "Inca Empire" because that is what most English-language sources call that empire. Wikipedia policy is not to use the official name or the pedantically correct name, but the name in common use. Maproom (talk) 13:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I tried to find a good way to make this info more visible in the article. It doesn't really work in the lede, but the two paragraphs in the Inca Empire section could be swapped so this comes up first.  I'll leave it to someone more familiar with Incan history if they'd like to make the change. I shared a link to this discussion at the article talk page.  TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  17:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

where is my recent question in
HD-Entertainment ? it appears in the contents (under 6.2), but can't be seen. What's going on there ? Thank you, בנצי (talk) 19:48, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * At Reference desk/Entertainment, there was a formatting error in the green box in the section above yours which caused the error. I have fixed it and it should look fine now.  Gnome de plume (talk) 19:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Manual of style question
Is there any guidance in the Manual of Style regarding a preference (or lack thereof) for "United States" over "United States of America". I found MOS:US, which is related, but doesn't address my specific question. Gnome de plume (talk) 19:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey Gnome de plume. It's general convention not to use "United States of America" as it is not to use "USA". However, you may be correct that this has never been explicitly spelled out in the MOS.  G M G  talk  19:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Harriet Martineau
I removed  "special  warnings"  in  the  lead  of this  page  BUT   I  now  think  that  I  should  not  have. please return them if  you  think  they  should  be  returned. Sorry Srbernadette (talk)
 * Go to the article's history tab and click "undo" next to the edit you want to undo. RudolfRed (talk) 22:39, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * (see above  request)  my  device  here  at  college  will  not  allow  me  to  do  it.  Please  help  Thanks  Srbernadette (talk) 23:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I strongly recommend you use a different device. If you are going to edit here, you need to be able to fix things yourself.  See WP:CIR, particularly this point: "and avoid editing in areas where their lack of skill and/or knowledge causes them to create significant errors for others to clean up."  Also please don't start a new section for a reply.  Add your reply in the section you are replying to.  I have consolidated the two sections.  Thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 00:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry -  I  will  not  attempt  to  replace  the  warnings  issued  at  the  beginning  of  this  page  by  the  wikipedia  editors.  01:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)