Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 September 19

= September 19 =

Title change
How can I change the title of an existing article? Want to update her maiden name (married name). However, she has been featured with her old name in the news articles. Is there a way that this can be done in accordance with the Wikipedia guidelines? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.100.16 (talk) 04:29, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is called moving a page. The feature is only available to autoconfirmed users. Since you don't have an account, you can request that a page be moved at Requested moves. Eman  235 / talk  06:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I would add that unless reliable sources have started to use her current name, it isn't necessarily a good idea to rename the article(though a redirect could certainly be created) per WP:COMMONNAME. We don't necessarily use official or legal names to title articles. For example, the article about US President Bill Clinton is at Bill Clinton, not William Jefferson Clinton, his legal name, or William Jefferson Blythe III, his birth name. 331dot (talk) 08:29, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Sanbox Article Publishing
Hi, I have completed writing wikipedia article called Shri Jayanta baruah. What to do for showing in wikipedia page ? will it be automatically published ? Please let me know — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moshaddique (talk • contribs) 08:03, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * You haven't written an article. Much of your editing was in WP:Sandbox.  You apparently didn't read what it says in the grey box at the top of that page, including: "Welcome to this sandbox page, a space to experiment with the process of editing Wikipedia. ... Any user can edit this page and it is automatically cleared regularly (anything you write will not remain indefinitely). ... If you are logged in, you can access your personal sandbox ("Sandbox" link at the very top of the page, next to your username)."  The sandbox has indeed been cleared, but you can still find your contribution in the page's history, and from there you can copy it to your personal sandbox which you can create at User:Moshaddique/sandbox.  It would be wise for you to read the advice at WP:Your first article.  One important point which would stop your draft being published as an article is that you have tried to use Wikipedia as a reference.  This is not permitted;  you need independent published reliable sources.  --David Biddulph (talk) 08:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Fixing geographical coords
In my spare time I'm fixing articles that need geographical coordinates, but I've now come across a whole raft of articles category:Defunct greyhound racing venues in the United Kingdom that have coordinates in the infobox but they are not formatted in a way that creates a geohack link. No doubt there are many similar articles created around the same time or by the same process. Fixing this manually is extremely fiddly and time consuming (example diff: ), but since the formats are consistent they would be ideal candidates for a script that could fix them all. Unfortunately this is beyond my technical capability, so I'm wondering whether someone would like to take this on. Also if there is a better place to post this request please let me know. Thanks.--Shantavira|feed me 08:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That looks do-able; try posting at AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will do.--Shantavira|feed me 10:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Typo Team
I have just joined the Typo Team. I have just had my request for AWB rights declined. Could you suggest ways I can find typos and fix them without AWB so when I request the permission again, I can show the reviewing admin that I can use the tool correctly? Interstellarity (talk) 11:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Use the "Random link" facility to choose some articles, and read them for typos. In my experience, you'll be able to find some quite easily. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.210.107 (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input. Interstellarity (talk) 12:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You could also do a site-wide search for commonly misspelled English words.--Shantavira|feed me 14:20, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Or Lupin's tool can be used to check all edits against the list of common misspellings - WP:LUPIN  OxonAlex    - talk  16:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The Typo Team has collected a list of pages that need fixes: Typo_Team/moss. When I was more active on the team, I used the list of misspellings linked in the earlier answer, not AWB.  RudolfRed (talk) 16:20, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Interstellarity (talk) 16:43, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

G14 and DABs without entries
See Ching Chang Chong (disambiguation). Currently, there are two entries, both songs which do not have their own articles and currently there are just WLs to the album pages. Would the page therefore qualify for WP:G14? In my view the page "disambiguate[s] zero extant Wikipedia pages" but I am unclear on the exact purpose and meaning of G14. Can anyone help ? ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ  14:29, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds like precisely a case of G14 to me, . --ColinFine (talk) 15:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * - thank you! Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  15:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * A blue link in the description counts when it has information about the term. G14 was declined. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Foreign script
Sylhet seems to have a native name specified in a script that prevents some of the article from rendering properly. It's even causing problems in the edit window so I can't even remove it. MB 15:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Hm, I don't see any problems, other than the usual placeholder squares. What browser are you using? ⌘  hugarheimur 17:12, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * PS: Fonts containing this script can be found here or here. Cheers ⌘  hugarheimur 17:21, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Firefox 69.0.1, with all default settings (as far as I know, at least related to scripts). I just tried it on Chrome and it does look fine there. MB 19:44, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Project tagging best practices or guidelines
I was referred here from Dispute resolution noticeboard. Are there any guidelines/consensuses/policies on which redirect pages should be tagged with corresponding WikiProject banners on their talk pages? There are over 100,000 entries in subcategories of Category:Redirect-Class articles (and countless more redirects that are not) and User:Richhoncho and I have different perspectives on this topic, so we are soliciting feedback to find some common consensus or existing guideline. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think different Wikiprojects have different ideas on this one. I don't see how it particularly hurts for them to be tagged, especially if it's a WP:Redirect with possibilities. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:47, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note, I just had a skim of the conversations above. I suspect nothing short of a full on RfC is likely to get something to be uniform across all Wikiprojects. Sorry I can't help. (If there is a policy, I'll be amazed) Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Koavf is being a little economical with the facts here. The argument is whether duplicate redirect names should be project tagged. In simple terms, and as our discussion has gone, if YYY (song) and YYY (band song both exist and are redirects to the same article, then only one (at most, depending on the project) should be tagged as project worthy. Likewise, if YYY (band song is a redirect to an article at YYY (song) then Talk:YYY (band song should either not be project tagged or a redirect to Talk:XXX (band song (as would automatically happen with a page move). I almost exclusively work with songs and have probably tagged and removed project tags 1000s over the past few years, and only one editor, Koavf, has managed to object - specifically on 3 of his edits only. I have checked about 50 entries in Category:Avoided double redirects and none of those I saw were project tagged, some were directs and some were blank or blanked.
 * For the record, the edit warring was closed with “This is dumb. How about just redirecting the talk page like we do for all other redirects? In any case, No violation ‘ by Bradv. Advice Koavf has not accepted and actually reverted when I did this!
 * Full details of our conversation can be found at Koavf's talkpage. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richhoncho (talk • contribs)

Parental alienation: Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.
Could someone take a look at the article talk page and advise me as to whether I am using the right approach? Would an RfC solve the issues, or would it just generate more walls of text? And what should I ask in the RfC? Is there anything specific here that I can ask an administrator for help on? I realize that just asking someone to read that huge talk page is asking a lot, but I am pretty much at the end of my rope here. Maybe just skim the last two or three sections? --Guy Macon (talk) 23:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That is a lot of text to wade through. If you are getting frustrated working on an article, the usual advice is to take a break and work on a different article instead.  Come back at it later.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:03, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not particularly frustrated. What I was hoping for is advice as to whether I am taking the right approach. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:24, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You use your brain too much. It has done everything it needs to do. Now it is time to stop talking and make a move. Do whatever you want; I'll revert you if it is not an improvement. Obi-Wan refuses to untangle that Gordian knot and uses his lightsaber to cut through it. Poveglia (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)