Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 August 4

= August 4 =

About my card
can I use my card anywhere in the world 🌎? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:4980:266:314E:219D:71E2:40D1 (talk) 01:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your card? NYCDOT (talk) 02:02, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a question that is unfortunately out of bounds for the help desk. If you have questions about editing or using Wikipedia we'll answer them. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  05:01, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

How to see history?
Hello,

At the very bottom of the wiki page, there used to be a hyperlink I could click to see the page edit history. Now the bottom of the page looks like the text below, and there is no hyperlink. Clicking on the text doesn’t bring me to a page history.

Is there any way to go back to the old model?

[/w/index.php?title=Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election&action=history Last edited 3 hours ago] by [/wiki/User:Mikemikem Mikemikem] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikemikem (talk • contribs) 02:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , did you switch skins recently? The link to an article's history should be at the top of the page. Alternatively, you can press if you're using Google Chrome as a shortcut. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 )  04:51, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I am referring to the very bottom of the page on mobile, that user to say “last edited 5 minutes ago by mikemikem” and I could click on that and it would show me all of the recent edits

I should have clarified, this is only in the mobile version. At the bottom of the page, under all of the references, under the “Categories” box, is a green bar, and in that green bar it would say “Last edited X minutes ago by Mikemikem” or whoever else last edited the page, and it could be clicked on and pull up the edit history.

But for some reason that changed and I am no longer able to click on it to pull up the edit history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikemikem (talk • contribs) 05:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * This is a new bug, and the developers are investigating. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Search "baike.baidu" ，about 1,051 pages，it`s unreliable sources.
Baike.baidu (百度百科) is a Online Encyclopedia in China like wikipedia. eg. hua chenyu、Jay Chou. And www.baike.com (互动百科)，about 377 pages. ——Hikaruangeel (talk) 04:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , this is being discussed at the reliable sources noticeboard. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  04:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

how to create a page
Please guide me on how to create a page for college — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.192.219.145 (talk) 08:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Successfully creating a new Wikipedia article(not just a mere "page") is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice.  New users greatly increase their chances of success if they first spend much time editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content.
 * However, if you still want to attempt to create a new article, you may use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft, though I would read Your First Article beforehand. If you work for this college, you will need to review and formally comply with the paid editing policy, and you should also review conflict of interest.  This college will need to receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write about the college, and those sources must show how the college meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  Not every college merits a Wikipedia article. 331dot (talk) 08:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Natalie Wood Famous Actress and Film star
Dear Sir or Madam,

I am respectfully contacting regarding the article about Natalia Wood, Hollywood flim star and famous Actress. The article states she was from Russian decent and that her parents where Russian. There is disputes regarding this information From her autobiography  it states her family were Ukrainian, on farther side they were from Kharkiv. There are photos of her in Ukrainian national dress, statements about her strong Ukrainian accent and many Ukrainian sites states she was a famous actress of Ukrainian decent

https://zabytki.in.ua/community/d/240-vidatni-ukrayinski-diiachi-teatru-ta-kino/6 scroll down to find the pictureof her in Ukrainan tradistional national dress. https://www.google.com/search?q=was+natalie+wood+ukrainian&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB855GB855&oq=Was+natalie+wood+ukrainian&aqs=chrome.0.69i59 Although born in the US, Natalie spoke Ukrainian and even Russian with strong Ukrainian accent. According to “Natasha: The Biography of Natalie Wood” book by Suzanne Finstad, for one of her Hollywood roles she had to “fine-tune her Russian dialect.. to lose her parents' Ukrainian accent.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/335307134750902856/?nic_v1=1aMQJR2QXW8zEHZg7YkisOxIfLcMqk4FQrDk%2BVIFxT6Fp69NAxKMwPwwXynq2vVIGM Natalie Wood with her father Nicholas Zakharenko (Ukrainians) and mother Maria Stepanovna Zakharenko (Russian) and sister's Lana Wood (born Svetlana Gurdin, March 1, 1946) and Olga Viriapaeff.

I respectfully ask if her article can be amended to include the information that she was Ukrainian please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derekthomp58 (talk • contribs) 10:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, the place to suggest changes is at Talk:Natalie Wood. Or you can make the changes yourself ensuring that sources you provide are considered reliable. (Social media such as Pinterest, would not be accepted). If you do not wish to do so you can request changes at the talk page using Template:Request edit. However the mentions of Russia seem to be sourced at the article and I'm not well-versed on whether Ukraine would be considered 'Russian' contemporaneously. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * , the article Natalie Wood states that her father was from Vladivostok and her mother from Barnaul. Both claims are supported by references. Both cities were and are in Russia, not Ukraine. Maproom (talk) 11:40, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Maproom, notoriously, the USSR forced plenty of internal migration (often via cattle truck and the like) on its citizens. It was common for Ukrainians to be sent to such places and forced to remain there. (I have no opinion about whether this applied to these two people.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I would definitely discuss it at Talk:Natalie Wood first, as changing anything between Russian and Ukrainian is almost guaranteed to be contentious (admins: is there some kind of DS that they should be aware of in this regard?). Remember the advice above that Pinterest, geneology, blogs, and other user-contributed sites (including Wikis) will not be considered reliable sources, and only hurt your case. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 18:39, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Dev Patel has an Emmy nomination
Hello

Dev Patel has an Emmy nomination for 2020. Please update. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.165.183.38 (talk) 10:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please make your request at the talk page of the article concerned; please be sure to provide a reliable source to support your suggestions. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Page version history - sorting by section title
Is there way to display a complicated page history filtered or sorted by section heading? Of course I can download and massage them offwiki but I mean as part of the Wiki interface, maybe with tools or scripts or something? Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * mw:User:PerfektesChaos/js/resultListSort might be a starting point for you if you want to play with it. It doesn't work (for me anyway) on page histories, but it does work on other things like Special:Contributions, Special:WhatLinksHere, etc. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 20:18, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll check it out, those other features may also be useful.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello! Big mistake in this text https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingush_people
While popular folklore claims the endonym Ghalghaj comes from the word ghala (meaning tower/fortress, today city), historical development indicates it is a composition of the words kha and khal, which directly means three cities. Inhabitants of the 3 settlements Targim, Khamkhi and Egikal, who operated as one, started taking over surrounding Nakh areas and building the grounds of what would later turn into the modern Ingush nation.[4] This is supported by the first actual mention of the word in 1590, when the "mountain people Kolkan" attacked 2 Russian ambassadors in the Darial pass.[5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingush1992 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy note: the text above is the current content of Ingush people. The article has recently been semiprotected by after what appears  to be POV edit warring involving sock puppetry. The argument rages on the talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 17:37, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Checking some information on Independent Premium?
Hi. Can someone with access to the premium section of The Independent, please check the content of this edit and this edit? This source is behind a paywall and I cannot verify it. That would be nice if you can copy anything about Iran International on it, here. Thank you. Pahlevun (talk) 17:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please place your request at WP:RX. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 20:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Pahlevun (talk) 15:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Alessandra Paonessa IS Alexa Ray
Hi There,

My legal name is Alessandra Paonessa but I go by the stage and composer name of Alexa Ray. I am looking to update this information and merge my two identities on this page. I am looking to change the name of the article to 'Alexa Ray' as this is what I am more commonly known as. Please let me know how i can go about this update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexa Ray 1 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to read the advice on conflict of interest, then you can use the article's talk page to make suggestions for improvements, supported by published independent reliable sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy link Alessandra Paonessa TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  22:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Follow up - this does not appear to be true. There's an Alexa Ray Joel, unrelated to Ms. Paonessa. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  22:50, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? There's no Alexa Ray. However, it's not clear that Alexa Ray qualifies as the WP:COMMONNAME. It could be a redirect to Alessandra Paonessa (after a mention of the stage name is added there, and maybe a source confirming that these two names are for the same person). Clarityfiend (talk) 05:47, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Query about donation
Hi Wiki,

I,m Sangam from India, I donate 150 rupees to wiki media but receipt show account name "Depansum solution" is that your account name or this is a fake account, please contact with me if this is not your account

Please, and sorry for bad English. my contact no   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4043:258C:DBBD:946F:8F0F:18E2:F77A (talk) 18:39, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Donations do not come here to the English Wikipedia; they go to the Wikimedia Foundation.  They have a page at https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Problems_donating which includes an email address for questions. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:50, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Creating a biography on wiki
Hi there, I did crested a Biography on professor Ajayi on Wikipedia. I realised I can’t log into my account again and the biography isn’t accessible online. Could there have been any problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.175.118 (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP user. If you ever saved the article or draft, then it is probably available online, if we know where to look (the other possibility is that an admin has deleted it for some reason, in which case there should be a message about it on your account's user talk page. If you tell us the name of the account that you cannot log into, we may be able to track down the draft. --ColinFine (talk) 20:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Problem with coord template/Location map
The coordinates are not showing up in the upper right corner of the page at User:Jo-Jo Eumerus/Henry Seamount/ Henry Seamount despite the intitle parameter in the coordinate template. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 19:07, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It ahould be "title" rather than "intitle", but it still doesn't seem to do the trick. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing the template intentionally does not pass through the  from the coordinates parameter to its output (it just uses it for the location mapping), so you would have to put a duplicate  in the article to get it to render, which is not ideal. You might try using, which seems to work at Muir Seamount. Also, I hunted for a more close-in location map, but Canary Islands and Spain with Canary Islands are cropped too close to render the label well. Does anyone know if there's an easy way to find location maps that include specific coordinates, like a search tool or even just a dump of the coord info from all the Module:Location_map/data/* files? —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 21:43, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding the coordinates, perhaps the folks at WP:VPT can help? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * In Henry Seamount has this:
 * The output of is the input to coordinates.   captures and decodes the  output to properly position the marker on the map.  The  output  make it to the page source that MediaWiki converts to the final html.  To do that, you need to change inline,title to inline (or omit that parameter entirely).  Then add a second  template outside of  with the same coordinates and title.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 00:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, in that case putting up a duplicate coord template is needed; I'll do that. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, in that case putting up a duplicate coord template is needed; I'll do that. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia page for Sarah Murdoch
Hi! Looking for assistance with Wikipedia page for Sarah Murdoch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Murdoch

There are few minor corrections, please. I have listed them below with articles that support the misinformation...

Australia's Next Top Model[edit] Murdoch replaced Jodhi Meares as host of Australia's Next Top Model after Meares infamously blundered her way through the third season's live finale in 2007 and flat-out refused to appear in 2008's finale. This statement is untrue. Please see below article from Sydney Morning Herald “Murdoch Leave Model” https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/murdoch-leaves-model-20111212-1or4n.html

Sarah produced Australia’s Next Top Model as well as hosted. •	“FOXTEL announced today that Murdoch has decided to step aside from her role as host and co-executive producer of the FOX8 series.” •	“As well as hosting the show, Murdoch also held the role of Executive Producer via her Room 329 production company." •	“Brian Walsh, FOXTEL’s Executive Director of Television, said in a statement today “Sarah has made a remarkable contribution to Australia's Next Top Model and was instrumental in propelling the programme to its most successful season ever, in 2011."

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/sarah-murdoch-im-no-superwoman/news-story/99a806c45a4404d2aa7f323a06ac9f68

•	“Photographer Jez Smith rejoined the series…’She’s not only put her kudos as a model on the line in calling on her contacts to become involved but, as executive producer, she’s taken on a lot more responsibility and is really putting in the hours to make the show as good as it could possibly be. She’s amazing.’”

“Nine News presenter Kellie Sloane replaced Murdoch until May 2007, when Lisa Wilkinson took over as the new co-host on Today.”

This statement is untrue. Please see below article from News.com.au “Sarah signs off for Today" https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/sarah-signs-off-for-today/news-story/b63cf61adc35b92b418bdbd90dd5d06c

Sarah Murdoch stepped down. She was not replaced.

•	“SHE'S improved the ratings, adjusted to a gruelling early morning routine and even put up with co-host Karl Stefanovic's jokes, but Sarah Murdoch's successful run on the Today show will finish next week.” •	“Much to the Nine network's disappointment, the accomplished model mum has announced that after an extended summer of four months co-hosting the show, her last day in the Today hotseat will be Friday March 30.”

“She is also ambassador of the Murdoch Children's Research Institute and a member of its development board.”

Sarah Murdoch is on the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute Board of Directors not the development board. Please below boards from the MCRI website… https://www.mcri.edu.au/about/people/board-and-committees

https://www.mcri.edu.au/about/people/board-and-committees

Thank you so much

JESG66 — Preceding unsigned comment added by JESG66 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 4 August 2020 (UTC)  — JESG66 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * In the header at the top of this page it says: "If you have comments about a specific article, use that article's talk page." That means that comments about Sarah Murdoch are made at Talk:Sarah Murdoch. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You might also want to try requesting your changes one or two at a time – people are more likely to help when they can do so in "bite-sized" pieces. Note MOS:BULLETLIST and MOS:NUMLIST for creating bulleted and numbered lists (and other info at WP:CHEATSHEET to help format your posts for readability). Please sign your messages on discussion (talk) pages by adding a space and four tildes to the end of the last line of your message, like this: This is the last line of the message. ~ The four tildes will be automatically converted to a signature that contains your linked username and a timestamp, which helps readers understand who said what. —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 21:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Download subset of the database (HTML Pages)
Greetings,

We wish to scrape information regarding the Malls in United States. Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shopping_malls_in_the_United_States. I was wondering how can we download all the articles mentioned on this link. Please note that we wish to download the pages using nested links as well. Please suggest a suitable approach.

Thanks, Ashwini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashwinitonge (talk • contribs) 22:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This type of technical request would be better asked at the Village pump (technical). TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  22:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Look at Wget which does recursive downloads of web pages. RudolfRed (talk) 22:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Wget in recursive mode's actually not going to help here, unless you already know what you're doing - robots.txt blacklists it. —Cryptic 23:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Autopatrolled user
Some time ago I came across a few articles created by a user who has autopatrolled privileges (is that what we call it?) but the subjects don't always demonstrate or meet notability (I've prodded some, merged one or two, and taken others to AfD). Examples include Woman's Seamen's Friend Society of Connecticut and Hiroshima Tōshō-gū. I've left various messages on the user's talk page, but they don't respond. Every few months, they create new articles that are apparently off the radar of the new page patrollers. Is there a way to request that an admin leave a message on their talk page or that their work somehow gets reviewed? Thanks. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Red Links
Why are these Mandruss   Markbassett  two links red ? 2600:1702:2340:9470:4E4:5FFD:55DC:40F2 (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Because there are no Wikipedia articles with the titles "Mandruss" or "Markbassett". If you see a redlinked username, it probably wasn't coded the way you coded those two, and the most likely reason it was redlinked is because the user has not created a user page. In other words, the target of a linked username is usually that user's user page (e.g. ), and it's red if no such page exists. &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  00:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * (ec) Because neither one is the name of an article in mainspace (article namespace). I think you probably want the talk pages for those users: User talk:Mandruss and User talk:Markbassett. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 00:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)