Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 August 8

= August 8 =

I'm having trouble setting up my page
Yes I'm trying to set up my Wikipedia page when I look it up in a search nothing comes up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Premo Predican (talk • contribs) 03:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * So, here's the problems, in no particular order:
 * 1) You set up a user page, which is not an article. You're probably searching in for articles instead of user pages.
 * 2) You've set up your user page as a webhost, which is not what user pages are for.
 * 3) You're attempting to write an article about yourself, which is highly discouraged even if you're doing everything else right.
 * 4) You're trying to write an article to promote your career, which is against our policy against promotion.
 * 5) You seem to be thinking that Wikipedia does "profiles." No.  Wikipedia is a volunteer-driven summary of independent and professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.
 * For the correct way to go about writing an article, see "How to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted" in this guide I wrote for new users. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Obtaining copyright permission
I know of several places where the owner of a photo of an object or place would be happy to allow the image to be published in Wikipedia with free use. Every time I try to find out how to do it, I get discouraged by the vast amount of verbiage in Wikipedia. It should not be this difficult. (I am not a newbie, incidentally; I have been editing on Wikipedia since 2005.) I just need a simple piece of text, in which I can fill in the blanks in advance, ie the file-name of the image and the name of the owner, and then send to the image's owner. They will just need an e-mail address so that they can send their permission for the record. I guess that this requirement is very common, and so it should be at the start of any article describing how to obtain copyright permission. Only then should other complications be listed, ideally in another linked article. It should not be necessary to have the patience of a law student. JMcC (talk) 09:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * What matters is not ownership of the photo, it's ownership of copyright in the photo. If someone owns copyright in an image because they created it, and wants it to be published in Wikipedia with free use, there's no need for any email. They can upload it to Wikimedia Commons, at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard, and check the button that says "This file is my own work". Maproom (talk) 10:07, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You are missing the point. I know people can load their own work, I have done it many times, but many other people are not active editors of Wikipedia. They would be willing for their photos to be used and I am willing to load the photo. I only want to send them a simple statement of the permission that they should give to Wikipedia. JMcC (talk) 12:13, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS#Licensing_images:_when_do_I_contact_OTRS? may be the help you need on Commons, the preferred place for uploads Fiddle   Faddle  12:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was lost in the different options. Now I have a simple example. I think the Help section needs a Help section. JMcC (talk) 15:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Getting back my subject on wikipedia
Bonjour Utilisateur Mohand.C.A Je veux réccupèrer mon article sur: "Biigraphie sur torture et persecution des autorités algériènnes".qulq'un d'aitre que moi a sabotté cet article. Mérci — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohand.C.A (talk • contribs) 10:23, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ,C'est le Wikipedia en anglais. Votre message est sûrement pour l'édition en français?? Presque toutes les gens ici parlent seulement en Anglais Fiddle   Faddle  10:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * vouz pouvez demander une question avec l'aide de cette page - fr:Aide:Poser une question - sur le Wikipédia français. (You can ask a question with the help of this page - fr:Aide:Poser une question - on French Wikipedia.)  Seagull123  Φ  12:22, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Taipanusa's question
Hi I'm new and want to help with Myanmar painters.

this is the wrong photo for U Kin Maung (Bank).

Instead show here is a photo of Kin Maung Yin. I'm certain. KMY is a different person. I knew him well.

How do I delete this photo?

How do I enter a correct photo--if I can find one (He died a long time ago)

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taipanusa (talk • contribs) 13:58, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Welcome and thanks for offering to help. To delete the picture from the Kin Maung article, just edit the article and remove the picture's filename from within the infobox template. However, If you intend to create an article for KMY, then please defer this action until your KMY article is ready, for an obscure reason. This copyrighted picture was uploaded using a "fair use" rationale. We do not allow a "fair use" picture to remain on Wikipedia unless it is used in at least one article. So, to avoid its removal, leave it in the "wrong" article until you can add it to the new article. To write your new KMY article, please read WP:YFA. Since you knew KMY, please read WP:COI and put a note on your user page or user talk page to let the reviewers know. COI is not a problem, it's just a fact, and your note will ensure that the reviewers take a little extra care. After creating your KMY article, adding the picture to it, and deleting it from the KMB article, if you do find a picture for KMB, please come back here, and we can help you. Uploading a copyrighted picture under a "fair use" rationale is not simple. -Arch dude (talk) 19:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Redirects that break existing comments
There are times when a bunch of people use a wikilink in discussions on talk pages and noticeboards. Occasionally there is a proposal that, while otherwise reasonable, changes the target of an often-used Wikilink and thus makes every one of those comments link to a page the author did not intend to link to. Imagine the confusion if suddenly WP:AGF or even WP:1AM suddenly linked to some other page.

If the number of pages is small, it is easy to go and fix the links, but sometimes there are thousands of them.

Does Wikipedia have a an actual policy against doing this, or is this just one of those common sense things that everyone knows but nobody documents? --Guy Macon (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems like common sense to me that if you change the meaning of a link, you have to resolve all existing usage. Large jobs can be handled by bots. Have an example? —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 21:51, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 3 --Guy Macon (talk) 21:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 * "Lots of incoming links" is an argument against deletion per WP:R #4 so I guess it also is an argument against retargeting. I am not aware of a policy, or historical precedent, for editing past discussions to substitute defunct or retargeted redirects with their previous target. Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Toyota 2E engine
The Toyota 2E engine also came with a 4 speed manual transmission in the Corolla (South Africa) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.182.189.78 (talk) 21:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, please discuss the points at the article talk page; you can use Template:Request edit to request changes and you *must* provide a reliable source.  Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:31, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

15 mins on Wiki and DELETED?
I don't understand the discriminatory nature whereas there are several artists involved and I would like proper information to be added, yet in the very starts of learning to navigate through this process was dismissed and disregarded as a junk file? Disclaimer was that I was using this site for other purposes, I would just rather start our own before someone else decides to. WHY SUCH DISREGARD FOR BEGINNERS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by StrangeJRB (talk • contribs) 21:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * As was explained on your talk page (before you blanked it): This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Meters (talk) 21:58, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * And since you posted I am trying to officiate the business in which I started to collaborate with artists. at the TeaHouse you should read WP:COI. Meters (talk) 22:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * See TeaHouse post for more. Meters (talk) 22:15, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:NOTPROMO. Wikipedia is not here to officiate the business in which I started. The Teahouse post is WP:TH. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 23:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Article on Concert pitch
Hello

In the paragraph pre-19th century there is a sentence

For example, a tuning fork associated with Handel, dating from 1740, is pitched at A = About this sound422.5 Hz, while a later one from 1780 is pitched at A = About this sound409 Hz, about a quarter-tone lower.[3]

The reference linked to [3] has nothing to do with historical tuning forks, it is a reference to ACID Pro software. How do I draw attention to this error? I can’t supply a better reference but the one quoted seems entirely irrelevant. Should I delete the reference or what?

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:6C2F:9A00:2512:56C5:D6E8:606E (talk) 23:02, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please post your concerns at Talk:Concert pitch. You can add after the reference in the article. —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 23:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I removed the link to the advertisement as being purely promotional and replaced it with a Citation Needed. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:42, 9 August 2020 (UTC)