Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 February 16

= February 16 =

dabsolver for watchlist is broken
Hi guys, I've been trying for the last few days to use the "watchlist" function of the dab solver tool, which allows you to find links to disambiguation pages in all the articles on your watchlist. But when I go to "sign in" / "connect to wikipedia", it crashes and gives a Python error. Does anybody know if this tool is also available somewhere else, or if there's something I could do in order to log in to be able to run the tool? Thanks! Dr. Vogel (talk) 00:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi all, would anyone be able to confirm that it is indeed broken and it isn't just me? I'd really like to be able to use this tool. Thanks very much! Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I just tried and it gave me the Python script error. MB 17:37, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

James Kitson, 1st Baron Airedale
I have  added  a  book  in the  "family"  section  of this page. It is  a  mess. Please fix  if  able. Sorry and  thanks  175.33.49.35 (talk) 07:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Working on it. —[ Alan M 1 (talk) ]— 08:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Grtting the talk page
So,  will give me the talk page of the page that I am on, but is there a way to do something like   to give me the talk page of the page Bean? (Talk:Bean) Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BEANS X2 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * produces . See WP:MAGIC. —[ Alan M 1 (talk) ]— 10:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Berney baronets
In the  section  titled  "Links  with  Middleton  family"  there  is  a  reference  to  the Yorkshire  Ramblers  Club. There is  a  wikipedia link  for  it  but  it  wont  work  on  my  device. Please do  it if  you  can  Thanks  175.33.49.35 (talk) 10:07, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks 175! ——  SN  54129  10:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Lupton family
In the  Barbara  Lupton  (Lady Bullock)  section  reference  92  is  not  relevant  but  it  IS  relevant  when the   same  reference  is  used in  the  earlier  Hugh  Lupton  section. I am  not  able  to  remove  this  duplicate  reference  from the  Barbara  Lupton  section. Please help  and  thanks   175.33.49.35 (talk) 10:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, 175. That was a poorly written section all over, loads of extraneous spaces. ——  SN  54129  10:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Article yet to published
I created a biography page of someone since January, and till date Wikipedia has not published it. Please how may you help? The subject: Mulikat Sarumi Biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrab4all (talk • contribs) 11:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * You produced a draft: Draft:Mulikat Sarumi Biography but did not submit it for AFC review. It would be pointless to submit it in its current state as it has no references to published independent reliable sources to demonstrate the subject's notability.  You need to read the advice at WP:Your first article.  --David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK Check tool
How do I add the Hook Length Warning option [] to the DYK Check tool? It gives a script to add to a page:

But I don't know where to find that page.--Ykraps (talk) 11:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Same place as the install: User:Ykraps/vector.js Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think I've added that tool now. Where can I find the page? Is it in preferences somewhere?--Ykraps (talk) 12:30, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Should be something that shows up on the left hand side on the article (on the toolbar.) Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:45, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

VKB Landbou page
Dear, my new page :VKB Landbou is not appearing on my searches. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by TwinMosia (talk • contribs) 14:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You created it in Wikipedia space, which is not article space. I will move it to Draft space so you can submit it for a review by another editor before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, so any problems are worked out first. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I have moved it to Draft:VKB Landbou. You can submit the draft for review, but it would not be accepted as it is now, as you do not have enough independent reliable sources with significant coverage to support the content of the draft; there is also promotional language in the draft.  If you work for this company, you must read and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 14:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's also almost entirely a copy of the company website, which is a copyright violation. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Edits
I have been providing extremely well referenced authoritative information on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Merlin#Gas_Generator

One of my edits, which documents the lack of reporting of toxic materials, was by Angus1986 removed as being "not constructive." It was, however factually correct. Wikipedia is supposed to be "encyclopedic" - which means all the well-referenced facts. Removing well-referenced facts under the aegis of "not being constructive" seems wrong, or at least a minor technicality for an encyclopedia. (and it is constructive in the sense of providing additional references germane to the core topic)

Please explain the issue more fully. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:67.61.89.32 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.89.32 (talk) 16:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * When an edit get reverted, your next step is to discuss it with the reverting editor (see WP:BRD) to reach consensus. Please assume good faith (see WP:AGF) you are both trying to improve the biggest and best encyclopedia the world as ever seen. If that fails, then get additional input: see WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 17:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Note also, 67.61.89.32, that "encyclopedic" does not mean "exhaustive"; in fact, it means "brief" here on Wikipedia. Encyclopedia articles must leave out a lot of stuff. That is why they are shorter than any authoritative book on a subject. Editors must make hard choices in determining what goes in and what must stay out. I remove tangential, trivial and off-topic material from Wikipedia articles on a regular basis.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)


 * EDIT: Thank you for the reply.  I saw that but cannot figure out how to initiate the process, get more information / make contact with the editor to find out what "not constructive" means and why it warrants dismissal of well-referenced information.  How to make contact?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.89.32 (talk) 17:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Please go to the talk page of the article in question at Talk:SpaceX Merlin (or just click the "talk" tab at the top of the article: it's the same place). Add a new section. Ping the reverting editor. Note that the phrase "not constructive" is auto-generated by some vandal-fighting tools and if a vandal fighter got in a hurry and made a mistake, you may have been the victim. Please don't take offense, as those volunteers have a huge amount of work do in their self-assigned, thankless task, and to keep up they must work fast and will occasionally make mistakes. -Arch dude (talk) 18:36, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Once again, thank you for the reply. No offense.  I can't tell what the "Ping" link means in this context - it appears to be a template of some sort.  By author, in this case, do you mean "Angus1986" who appears the be the one who reverted my edit?
 * Yes, write your message and include .  Make sure to sign using 4 tidles ~ or it won't work.  RudolfRed (talk) 19:36, 16 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the reply. That last bit about a signature doesn't compute for me - can you give an example?  I looked on the "Talk" page which was mentioned ("Please go to the talk page of the article in question") but didn't see any of the edits with tildes.  Did you mean the text box labelled "Sign your posts on talk pages:" and enter 67.61.89.32 (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC) in that?

EDIT: I think I get it - when I insert the characters (4 tildes) in the text of my comment, it inserts my IP address, right? 67.61.89.32 (talk) 20:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That's right, IP user. --ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It also inserts a timestamp in the correct format. —[ Alan M 1 (talk) ]— 02:06, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Wilberforce Colony
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In the article about "Wilberforce Colony," there is an omission - Instead of Wilberforce Colony was a colony established about 1829 by free African Americans," 'SHOULD INCLUDE "and escaped slaves!"

I know this because I am one of many great great great granddaughters - of "Peter Butler!" For further reference validation, a book has been written by Daniel G. Hill, called "The Freedom Seekers: Blacks in early Canada.

"THE FREEDOM SEEKERS: Blacks in early Canada," Publisher: Soc of Canada Ltd., January 1, 1981, ISBN - 10 0772552843, ISBN - 13 978 - 0772552846, p.68'Italic text   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:6900:141F:5D29:4259:446D:E9AA (talk) 18:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Refugee slaves, who had escaped to freedom in Canada, also joined the colony. So, it is already mentioned. Ruslik_ Zero 20:31, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Since you have this book and have read it, please feel free to add it as a additional reference to that sentence in the article. Even better, expand the article further based on material in the book. If you are not comfortable editing directly, suggest some wording in a new section on the article's talk page, include your reference there as you did here, and add the magic incantation request edit to attract the attention of an editor. And thanks. -Arch dude (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

List of Amusement Parks - Closed Parks
I've tried to added a page with a list of amusement parks. I've tried to add the information that a park is permanently closed. My edit was reverted because of "vandalism". If somebody wants to add the information again, please do. I think it is a valuable information and it is true. The park is closed. I will not try to edit again. I don't know how to answer the person who wrote me and he/she doesn't seem interested in a helping a beginner to add such information. Personal note: I've tried to edit Wikipedia 15 years ago and I tried now. It's still to complicated for me. I'm back to helping the OSM. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.140.124.133 (talk) 20:51, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, IP user. You maybe won't see this, if you've really gone away; but I hope you do stay. Thank you for wanting to help us improve Wikipedia, and I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. What I see in your edit is that you added a foreign word to an English Wikipedia article, and gave no explanation of why. Now, some readers of English Wikipedia will know that "geschlossen" is German for "closed"; but many may not. They see a piece of nonsense in the article (not everybody will realise that it is a German word) and wonder why. If they look through the history, they see it was inserted by an anonymous account with no explanation of why. Do you see why the editor who reverted it might have thought your edit "unconstructive". (Incidentally, I can't see anywhere where the word "vandalism" appeared in respect of this edit, before you mentioned it above).
 * Furthermore, even if a reader recognised the word as meaning "closed", there is no source given for the information: how does the reader know it is accurate? It's not an ironclad rule that all information in articles is accompanied by a source, but it's certainly preferable.
 * If you have a published source for the fact that the Salzberger Erlebnis Park is closed, you are welcome to reapply your edit, in English, with an edit summary explaining why; and preferably, a source that says it's closed. (Alternatively, since no source is given for the park, and it is not even mentioned in the article Neuenstein, Hesse, it might be better to simply remove it from the list). --ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Help with User page and images
Hi im try to place some images into my user page but whenever I do they just go immediately to below the infobox. any way to pervent this?DMT biscuit (talk) 23:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you tried just placing them within the infobox? For George Washington, there is a line in the infobox parameters | image = Gilbert Stuart Williamstown Portrait of George Washington.jpg. You would put the title of your image in place of the title in bold. You have to upload your image first, though.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)