Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 January 22

= January 22 =

Gadolonium
I made edits in Gadolonium causing fibromyalgia on fibromyalgia page. As well as in Gadolonium page. Both gone. How do I get the truth to the public when people delete it so quickly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gadisbad (talk • contribs) 01:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC) Background, I was a FLOW-supporter and created Talk pages project recently. Try to do stuff as IP is entertaining, but admittedly my theory that it helps with there is no ex in ex-wikiholic is shaky. –84.46.53.93 (talk) 22:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia depends on verifiability, not Truth. See WP:TRUTH. We need references to reliable sources, and a paper on a hypothesis cannot be cited as if it claims that the hypothesis has been proven. The requirement for reliability for a medical claim is higher than that for other claims: see WP:MEDRS. If your goal is to "get the truth to the public", then you must choose a different web site. -Arch dude (talk) 02:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:TRUTH is also a nice example how enwiki ticks, it is an essay (no policy, no guideline, no supplement) started in April 2008. In August 2008 another editor started another essay (no policy, no guideline, no supplement) WP:TRUE. There's also WP:THETRUTH, and my personal "old school" (~ boomer) favourite always was WP:42, the shortest essay in this zoo. –84.46.53.93 (talk) 03:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't place much credence in a post that doesn't know how to spell Gadolinium. I also would be skeptical of a theory that one particular rare earth metal has a toxicity, since all of the rare earth metals have almost the same chemistry, but that simply means that evidence needs to be provided, which is true of all scientific claims and especially medical claims.  We don't even currently have a redirect for gadolonium, but I will go ahead and set one up.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Obligatory on topic ACK and a random observation: Some years ago the slightly odd colon-indentation style for signed comments on talk + project pages used n+1 colons for all replies to a comment with n colons.  In 2019 and now I often see one more colon, even if the reply is mainly to the comment of the OP, not to the most recent reply.  Is that a personal choice, or a new feature?
 * Annoying there are many editors who either have not read WP:Indentation or ignore it. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

How do I cite a news story?
I made an edit on the weedmaps page and was called out for not providing a source. For what its worth, I don't know how to cite my source.

Here is the url for my citation: https://mjbizdaily.com/cannabis-advertising-firm-weedmaps-cuts-100-plus-jobs-in-response-to-slow-adult-use-market-rollouts/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeager435 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Put the link in between ref tags. For example: .  CatcherStorm    talk   01:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * A "raw" URL is a lot better than nothing and will suffice to keep editors from hassling you for not having a reference, but it's better for the rest of us if you have time to learn how to use the cite web template inside of the ref tags instead of just the raw URL. You will find some worked examples in the article. You can also read WP:REFBEGIN. Thanks for your contribution to Weedmaps even if you don't have the time or interest in the more complicated stuff. -Arch dude (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

How to publish a Wikipedia Page from Draft?
Hi,

I have a wikipedia page in draft but there is no option to publish that page. How to do this. Please guide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margerperez (talk • contribs) 05:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . To start the review process, just add this code to the top of your draft:  .  After doing so, you'll see a yellow box telling you that your draft is now awaiting review.  Good luck!  Orville talk 05:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm trying to semi clone Talk:Donald_Trump at Talk:Race_and_intelligence
But it ain't working right. Please help. Something to do with templates I think. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 05:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I've made an edit to Talk:Race and intelligence/Current consensus. Is that what you had in mind? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Malicious redirect of the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu_Gupta
Hi.. the following user has purposely deleted contents of the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu_Gupta and redirected to the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Sena - which is not correct.

Rosguill is the user name who has done that yesterday. In the past some other users also have been doing the same.

How to stop users doing such mischief? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rameshvinayak (talk • contribs) 11:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The page was re-directed to the page about his political party as they both contain essentially the same information. The article about Gupta does not contain much, if anything, additional to the Hindu Sena page. As it stands, Gupta himself does not warrant a standalone article as there is not enough in mainstream relaible sources to support it. Eagleash (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Rameshvinayak - Alleging that another user has maliciously redirected a page, or that their conduct is mischief, could be construed as a personal attack. I suggest that you strike out the personal attack.  Users who engage in personal attacks are often blocked.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Subpage count
As an example, Special:PrefixIndex outputs ten subpages for Template:POTD/2020-01-24. Is there a way to count the number of subpages for a given page, e.g. something that outputs "10" for the above example? Thanks. &mdash;  RAVEN PVFF  &middot; talk &middot; 12:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Click "Page information" under "Tools" in the left pane of Template:POTD/2020-01-24 to get various information including "Number of subpages of this page 9 (0 redirects; 9 non-redirects)". The 10th at Special:PrefixIndex/Template:POTD/2020-01-24 is the page itself which isn't considered a subpage. Special:PrefixIndex/Template:POTD/2020-01-24/ omits it. The search also works by displaying the number of results. There is no wikitext which can output the count in a wiki page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Someone is Vandalizing a Page / Need Help Deleting Page


Trying to delete page "Michael Burns Executive" b/c someone is using vandalism tactics to vandalize the page. Someone keeps changing his divorce status (Pell James) to read "Divorce" for monthes, but Michael is not divorced. Micheal just wants the page deleted.

History: Page was protected after vandalised was fixed but a user got it unprotected and continued to vandalize the page for months now.

Tried to delete but the user removes the tag. Michael Burns did not create the page so he is unable to delete.

Can I chat with an admin about this or help with deleting the page?

Thanks, James Richardson (Dir. of Content Protection at LIONSGATE) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesBP425 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am afraid that we do not care what Burns thinks about his page. We will fight unsourced info, but, all accurate information and content will remain, regardless of whether Burns wants it deleted. moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 16:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If, eventually, it turns out the divorce actually happened and sufficient reliable sources are avaliable for it, it will be re-added. I assume the unsourced info on the divorce is why he wants it deleted. moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 16:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Checked a bit more. Seems that the divorce is pending.
 * https://unicourt.com/case/ca-la23-burns-pell-james-vs-burns-michael-326805 moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 16:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Please declare your status as a paid editor with respect to the Michael Burns (executive) article and the Lionsgate article. See WP:PAID. Please refrain from editing those articles directly. This is required by the terms of use that you agree to comply with every time you edit Wikipedia. Feel free to make suggestions for changes on the affected article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * About that deletion: If the subject is notable, we will not delete the article. The subject himself has no say in this decision: the information in the article is supposed to be referenced to publicly-available reliable sources. See An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you think something in the article should be deleted because it is not relevant, then make your case based on our "biography of living persons" policy: see WP:BLP. -Arch dude (talk) 18:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Have requested page protection. This unsourced divorce information has been added in 5 times since September and apparently nobody is keeping an eye on the article. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

JamesBP425 - Thank you for this information. I was told otherwise. I appreciate the quick response! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesBP425 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

JOE ROLLINS ARTICLE ELIMINATED


APPARENTLY SOMEONE WHO IS NOW BANNED FROM WIKIPEDIA FOR COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS CONTRIBUTED TO THE ARTICLE ON JOE ROLLINS. AS A RESULT THE JOE ROLLINS ARTICLE WAS DELETED. CAN IT BE RESTORED, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE RE-CREATED?

THANKS, GUY ROLLINS (NEWBIE) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolguy (talk • contribs) 18:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's best to start over again, copyright violations are usually not restored. If he is a family member of yours, you may want to submit it for review using the articles for creation process (WP:COI). – Thjarkur (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Please do not type in all-capital letters. In written communication, the use of all-caps is the equivalent of screaming, and is considered rude.  To answer your question, the article Joe Rollins was deleted because it was likely a copyright violation (see WP:COPYVIO for Wikipedia's policy on this).  There would be nothing wrong with you re-creating the article yourself, so long as you don't copy the text from another source, you do cite the sources you used to write the text, and so long as you yourself do not have a conflict of interest with the subject such that you would be inclined to run afoul of Wikipedia's policies on maintaining a neutral point of view.  If this would be the first time you had created an article at Wikipedia, you can find some good guidance at Help:Your first article.  -- Jayron 32 18:41, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Azim Azimzades
make an article about azim azimzades works of art. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.100.140.42 (talk) 19:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has an article about Azim Azimzade. If there is something missing, you're invited to add it yourself.  -- Jayron 32 19:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Broken formatting on Daniel Lundh
Hello,

The formatting on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lundh seems to be broken. I tried to fix it but failed and I think it could do with someone who knows what they're doing. Red Fiona (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The table markers  and   must be keyed exactly like that, without a space between the two characters. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Archiving at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Climate change not working
There seems to be no archiving going on in this active WikiProject. I know the bot has had some hiccups a while back, but maybe the settings are wrong instead? Any help would be appreciated! Femke Nijsse (talk) 22:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The settings were wrong until [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Climate_change&diff=936978797&oldid=936978567]. Archiving usually runs once a day. Come back if it hasn't archived in two days. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's archiving now. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Why can't I create Dimitrios Bitzenis artist page?
What am I doing wrong and you are deleting it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitzenis (talk • contribs) 22:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Based on the messages on your talk page at User_talk:Bitzenis, it is because you are trying to advertise your business. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a venue for promotion.  RudolfRed (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I responded at further length on your talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 04:07, 23 January 2020 (UTC)