Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 January 24

= January 24 =

Edits continuously reverted by another user
Hi,

I have been editing the page of List of Inbetweeners Episodes, having reworded certain areas to make them sound more ideal. However, once I do, a user named 2a02:c7f:70a8:7900:6a:1ee4:e0a6:76f1, as well as Dl2000, undo them and reword it further. Their edits of the page having notably bad grammar and wording, make many episode summaries unnecessarily long, and at one point even caused issues with how the page is formatted as a whole.

It is frustrating and I wondered if it was possible to have this reviewed and potentially have the most ideal edit selected by Wiki moderators, or whoever could be responsible. It'd help us all out a lot and stop the page from being rapidly edited with dramatic changes.

Thanks.
 * There is no evidence that you (or they) have tried to discuss this issue on the talk page of List of The Inbetweeners episodes. Until you try to resolve this issue and reach consensus there, it's unlikely that an administrator will protect the page. See WP:BRD. -Arch dude (talk) 01:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have updated the talk page now, what should I do if they continue to ignore it and keep reverting the edits? It is also disrupting the formatting for part of the article. This edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_The_Inbetweeners_episodes&oldid=937286708 will reveal that, as the series 3 section has lost all its borders and boxes separating descriptions for each episode
 * At the point when, in your editorial judgement, the activity becomes vandalism, proceed to WP:AIV. If it's not vandalism, but "merely" poor editing, try to get a third party involved. See WP:DISPUTE. (as a spearte issue, please sign your posts here and in talk pages by appending four tildes ( ~ ) at the end. -Arch dude (talk) 02:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Tooltips don't resize according to browser's zone level
As shown in the attached screenshot -

I hope tooltips resize according to browser's zone level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llf (talk • contribs) 04:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Want to remove a page
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isai_Vellalar

From the above link its belong to the Wikipedia page. The page is about the one of caste in tamil nadu, india. The caste name is "Isai Velalar" but they registered as "Isai vellalar". There is another community Who belongs the name vellalar. So, please change isai vellalar into isai velalar or remove this page.

Thanking you Harishpranovhk (talk) 10:11, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The site you link to above is not this one, en.wikipedia.org, but rather en.m.wikipedia.org (note the extra "m."). I don't know whether that's a legitimate extension of this English-language Wikipedia, or something else over which we here have no control. Hopefully others can enlighten both of us. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.58.107 (talk) 14:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * en.m.wikipedia.org is the mobile-phone version of en.wikipedia. It presents exactly the same content, but in a way that is supposedly easier to read on mobile devices., the best place to discuss this is the article's talk page, Talk:Isai_Vellalar.   Maproom (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * en.m is the mobile version of wikipedia, you need to go to the talk page at Talk:Isai Vellalar and raise the issue there. MilborneOne (talk) 14:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Company offer to create Wikipedia Page for Money (Fraud)
Hey,

I am a scientist and recieved a fraud mail from a company which charges an outrageous amount of money to create the Wiki Page for someone. To my understanding, this goes against the Wikipedia Rules, is that correct? Can I report that company somewhere to delete their accounts? The email is below.

"Dear Dr. XXX,

Have you ever wondered about having a Wikipedia page for yourself or your company? We can help you get a Wikipedia page for yourself or your brand.

Why have a Wikipedia page?

Google loves Wikipedia and as such ranks it high in search results. Wikipedia is also the first place people go when they Google your name. By leveraging Wikipedia, you can help control your Online Profile and present yourself to the world. Usually, Wikipedia only accepts pages on celebrities and famous companies, if you are looking to get one for your self, we can help you with that. Having a page for yourself in Wikipedia brings you more credibility and makes you more famous.

We have been editing on Wikipedia for 9+ years and We've created tons of pages for companies, people, brands, products, and of course for academic purposes as well.

We own multiple accounts on Wikipedia with page curation and new page reviewer rights, so we can create and moderate pages with almost zero risks of another mod taking it down.

There are few Wikipedia editors who are willing to create a page for money, and most of them are scared to offer this service directly, so they do it through their trusted sellers who markup the price to $2000 - $2500 per page.

Because you're buying directly from an experienced Wikipedia editor and mod, you'll get your page a lot cheaper, faster and with more reliability.

Let me know if you are interested

Regards, Teresa Edwards. "

Robi313 (talk) 11:11, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It isn't against the rules, though it is discouraged. Any user editing for pay must comply with the paid editing policy and declare who is paying them; this is a Terms of Use requirement. If an administrator ("mod") is editing for pay(really any user, but especially an admin) and not declaring it, that would be a serious breach of the policy.
 * You are correct to be wary, as despite what this person states they can make no guarantees, such as guaranteeing that any article they write will not be deleted. No one using their services should hand over any money before they see the end result. 331dot (talk) 11:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Note also that "we own multiple accounts" is an explicit acknowledgement that these people are violating Wikipedia policy. It's also highly unlikely that they are complying with the requirement in our terms of use that they disclose their paid status as they agree to do each time they hit the "publish" button (see WP:PAID). Therefore, if you sign up wit these folks, you are dealing with an unethical organization, and any customer is complicit in this. -Arch dude (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Re hand over any money before they see the end result: Even if they are able to initially create such an article for a non-notable topic, it can subsequently be deleted. The chance of this happening increases over some period of time after the initial creation, especially when it contains mistakes that will cause it to show up in various cleanup lists. I don't see how one could ever feel comfortable paying someone for such a "service". —[ Alan M 1 (talk) ]— 16:52, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, this makes me sad. This is how we got to 6 million articles, folks. --kingboyk (talk) 01:58, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your answers! So no way to report this behavior? I think thats a shame, would be good if Wikipedia would get proactive on scammers like this. THey use this email adress if that helps (editorial at scientificreviews.org). I received an updated email from them, after i faked interest:

"Dear Dr. XXX,

Thanks for your interest in our services.

I've just had a glimpse of your work and the profile is indeed impressive. It will take nearly 2 months to curate your Wiki Profile following the Wikipedia guidelines and provide credible Digital Point of References.

Here is why I am qualified: 9+ years of experience with Wikipedia editing. We understand Wikipedia guidelines and how articles must be written to conform to such. Over 80,000 edits and 1,000s of articles created. We only take on notable clients. If we give you a bid for your project, you should know that you are notable. If you are not, we will tell you so.

Our service fee for Wikipedia page creation is $1299 per profile and $500 per year for maintenance of the page.

Please send us complete Information (CV, a brief note on Personal Life, a Headshot portrait which is free from any means of copyrights), related links, and any other information that can be used to curate your page. Our editors will find the digital point of references available on the internet as links imparting real information for Wiki review.

Contents 1.Early life and education 2.Professional and academic career 3.Research 4.Awards, honors and professional activities 5.Selected bibliography 6.References 7.External links

Here is our recent work for some of the researchers from various Universities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_J._Love https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Davies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mensah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kuriyan

Let me know if you wish to pursue this opportunity. We will prepare and raise the invoice.

Best Regards, Teresa Edwards. "

Thank you and greetings, Robi313 (talk) 09:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not a "scam" if they do what they say they will do. Since you provided some articles that they claim to have worked on, we can look into that to see if the creator made the required declarations, and if they did not, they can be blocked.  Otherwise, they haven't done anything wrong.  If you or someone hands them money and they don't produce an article, you could contact your local authorities with relevant jurisdiction, but it would likely be difficult for them to pursue such a claim. 331dot (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Username change
how do i change my username it autofilled when I made it and it's unproffessional but I've an article submitted and don't want to just delete the whole account and start again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisnightsrevels (talk • contribs) 13:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , if you don't want to create a new account, you can request renaming at Changing username. However, it is generally much quicker to just create a new account.  Oxon Alex    - talk  13:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * And please note,, that there is absolutely no connection between an account name and any article. Whether you ask to have your name changed, or just abandon the account and create a new one, this won't affect the review of Draft:Bears In Trees in any way. What will affect it is finding reliably published independent sources, i.e. places where people completely unconnected with the Band, and unprompted by them, have chosen to write about them and been published somewhere with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking. If you can't find any such sources, you would be well advised not to spend any more time on a non-notable subject. --ColinFine (talk) 20:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

football squad template
Template:Football squad on pitch This template is only for one team. Is there any template where both team lineups and formations can be shown?  :) S A H  A  13:38, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, might be a better question for WP:FOOTY. I can't see a place in an article for such a thing, as it would take up most of a page. Is there a particular article you would be looking to add this? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ok. I want to add this in Kolkata Derby. The 1st match of Kolkata Derby.  :) S A H  A  16:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Why we not see WWE videos
Why — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.115.27.186 (talk) 15:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, this is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. Do you have a question relating to using or editing Wikipedia? Eagleash (talk) 15:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk page message
An editor left this message on my talk page: User_talk:Interstellarity. Did I respond appropriately to the question and how should I respond next? Interstellarity (talk) 15:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Response was fine. I should just ignore it now. (Don't feed the trolls!) Eagleash (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * How do you know that they are a troll? Interstellarity (talk) 17:03, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * To leave messages as they did after you reverted them looks pretty much as if they are pushing for a reaction.
 * Is it fine to delete the post to deny recognition? (BTW, pings don't work unless you sign your post.) Interstellarity (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I know that! We all miss one now and then, especially when busy with other things. Delete it or not it's up to you. Personally, I probably wouldn't but it's your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:DENY. Even deleting it (originally, or now) is feeding their apparent desperate need for attention. Just let it get swept into your archive. —[ Alan M 1 (talk) ]— 12:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. Interstellarity (talk) 14:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The user has been blocked from editing. Interstellarity (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Ten million articles
When do you think we will reach ten million articles? Interstellarity (talk) 15:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably around 2040. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:12, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you think Wikipedia will still be around in 2040? Interstellarity (talk) 16:41, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You can see guesses and make your own at Ten-million pool. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia should be here unless it is hit by Year_2038_problem RudolfRed (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for sharing that with me. I'd rather see what others guess it might be. Interstellarity (talk) 17:20, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I hope Wikipedia stays around for many years to come. Maybe another hundred years!! Interstellarity (talk) 17:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Nope. See Technological singularity. :-) -Arch dude (talk) 17:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Will Wikipedia still be around in 2040? It does not matter. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:59, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * See also Modelling Wikipedia extended growth. -Arch dude (talk) 18:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Italics for articles about a publication
I recently encountered a WP page of article titles beginning with the word "clinical". Nearly all are journal titles. I noticed that not all the journal titles are italicized. In fact, one article is listed twice, both with and without italics. Shouldn't all article titles about journals be italicized? I assume this would be done by moving the unitalicized articles, right? --Quisqualis (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * In that list the titles that are italicized are redirects. Ruslik_ Zero 19:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Article titles are italicized by the template for Infobox Journal. RudolfRed (talk) 19:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Special:PrefixIndex/Clinical is a special page. Special pages are generated automatically and cannot be edited (they sometimes display content which can be edited elsewhere but not page lists). Redirects are automatically shown in italics. Other pages are not and no manual styling is possible. It's the same as category pages where redirects are also in italics, e.g. Anakin Skywalker in Category:Jedi. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:31, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

plasma
Plasma is wierd and some people say it is not a state of matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notebo (talk • contribs) 19:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you have a question about how to edit Wikipedia? You can learn more about plasme at Plasma_(physics).  RudolfRed (talk) 19:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)