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= July 12 =

how to uploads PDFs to an article
Hi, I've edited an article on Wikipedia   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Met_Foods   and would like to upload three PDFS as supporting documentation so the PDFS are visible in the article and can be opened/viewed through the article. I managed to upload the PDFS into what seems to be a Wikipedia repository after going through the vetting process to ensure the content is legally uploadable. Now, how do I find those uploads and move them on to the page I worked on? Thanks for your assistance.

Editor12603 (talk) 02:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * What is the content of those pdfs? Unless they are photographs, they may not be suitable for use here. Sometimes folks get the mistaken impression that they can upload newspaper clippings, for example, which in addition to (often) being copyright violations, are not reliable sources because in this era of Photoshop, anybody can alter a "scan of a clipping" to say anything they want. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  02:55, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the background.They are corporate reports from Met Foods from 40 to 70 years ago that provide support for the text, and fuller history, of this company. In short, they, and the text that should be on this Met Foods page, much more factually tell the story of this company that's been around for the better part of a century. The few paragraphs now on the page are a sliver of this company's history and simply ignore decades and decades of the company's founding, early progression, and innovative impact on the history of grocery shopping in the New York area.

In short, yes, Wikipedia has rules. I get that and understand that. They should not impede on telling this company's story legally, completely and intellectually. The story I posted is far superior and supportable. It was taken down.

How can these goals be accomplished? I'm happy to let you review the PDFs. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor12603 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


 * If the PDFs have not previously been published by a reliable source they can't be used to support a Wikipedia article. If you want to publish information about the company's history there are countless web-hosting companies that you can choose from. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Help on Redirect
Hi, i completely forgot how do Redirect a page since I haven’t been around since COVID-19. Can somebody please remind me on how to redirect a page? Thanks. The person who should not be named (talk) 03:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I remembered how. The person who should not be named (talk) 03:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I think I made a big mistake on changing a name of an article
Hi. I tried to change the name of an article, List of unrecovered flight recorders to List of unrecovered and unusable flight recorders but I believe I did it wrong, it deleted every single contribution on the original name. Is that what was suppose to happen? Let me know. Thanks. The person who should not be named (talk) 03:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , the history is preserved on the new page. Is that what you mean? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  03:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I see those contributions. Thanks The person who should not be named (talk) 03:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Did I do this right....
I wrote a brand new article. It shows up in my User Page. I meant to try and publish it for the public wikipedia page. What did I do wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BanFakeNews (talk • contribs) 03:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , you may want to try following the procedures over at WP:YFA to learn how to get an article started. You may also want to take a look at existing articles to understand what the formatting should look like. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  03:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Bear in mind that, since promotion of any kind is not permitted in Wikipedia, Wikipedia basically has no interest in what the subject of an article says or wishes to say about itself: it is only interested in what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about it, unprompted by information from the subject. (Note that in Wikipedia "promotion" is not restricted to commercial endeavours). If as you say "news about the ATRF is scant", then it is very unlikely that it meets the criteria for notability, and no article about it will be accepted however written. It may merit a section in the existing article Americans for Tax Reform. --ColinFine (talk) 09:49, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Don Lemon is not a real journalist
He spreads pure propaganda. He doesn't even get the facts right at all! Maybe if CNN was banned from the references on the grounds of "misinformation", then maybe things would be reconsidered. But I digress. There's too many leftists running the site. And that's a bad thing, because anyone who supports Antifa or BLM is a dunce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.154.48.248 (talk) 03:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Thomas Michael Greenhow
Please make  the  file of  Dr  John  Snow  (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Snow.jpg)   much  smaller (shrink)   than  the  photo of Thomas  Michael  Greenhow  -  whom the  article is  about. Maybe crop off  his  legs ???? Please help,  I  cannot  do this  myself. Thanks in a  advance. 175.32.11.165 (talk) 01:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I've cropped it so it is about the same size. I see no reason to make it "much smaller". MB 05:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

How can I create and edit maps on articles?
I'd like to help improve some election articles by contributing maps with the election results shown by location on a map (like )

What is the best way to do this? Do editors usually just do this in a third-party application and then upload it or is there a way to create and edit these map within Wikipedia somehow? Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 06:25, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Use a third-party application and then upload. See Graphics Lab and commons:Commons:Graphic Lab. They both have map workshops. Most maps are hosted at Wikimedia Commons where they can also be used in other wikis. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:54, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Page For Brooklyn Jade
Why has this page been flaged for deletion ?. Editers get off your high horse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realsarahhopkins (talk • contribs) 07:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC) Brooklyn Jade — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realsarahhopkins (talk • contribs) 07:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Your article(not just a page) was deleted by me as a copyright violation. You can't just copy content from elsewhere to Wikipedia; you need to write in your own words.  Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 07:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

LMAO. It is in my own words, I wrote it all with Open office document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realsarahhopkins (talk • contribs) 07:49, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You restored a long text by Brooklyn Jade. If it's not you then you didn't write that part. A draft biography should also have sources to satisfy Notability (people). Social media links by the subject and mention of works where they were an extra do not contribute to that. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia you have deleted so much content of shri yantra and so many websites p
Please help me Wikipedia You have deleted all my edits and all interface which is important in such or shri yantra Wikipedia,and so many changes like you have deleted main and Rare Information Regarding all.

Please return all information regarding in shri yanta you have removed In temples page and many more and so ,much important information deleted and removed ,.

Please return those valuable information Wikipedia. Please please please please please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagruti Soman (talk • contribs) 07:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * user removed the content with the comment "unsourced or unreliably sourced list without related articles removed." Please discuss this with that user at Talk:Shri Yantra to see how to proceed. -Arch dude (talk) 14:50, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Talk page resolution at Talk:Statue of Robert Baden-Powell, London
I'm usually quite a non-confrontational guy, so pardon my ignorance. I've been involved in a discussion at Talk:Statue of Robert Baden-Powell, London that doesn't seem to be stuck in a gridlock. Where do I go from here? It doesn't seem to warrant a DRN. Is it an RfC? ANI? 3O even though there's already 3 users involved? ◢    Ganbaruby!    (Say hi!) 09:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

group page
Please amend the page below is the original singer and details This is the original singer Carol Jiani this information on this page is wrong below if the correct information Michelle is not the original singer.

Suzy Q (group) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search Suzy-Q Also known as	Suzy Q Origin	Montréal, Canada Genres	Post-disco, Hi-NRG Years active	1981–1989 Labels	J.C. Records (Canada) Atlantic (US) Suzy Q was a Canadian studio project created by Jerry Cucuzzella. Female vocalists include Michelle Mills and Angie Vileno.[1] The group is best known for their song "Get on Up and Do It Again" which entered two Billboard charts.[2]

Contents 1	Career 2	Discography 2.1	Studio albums 2.2	Singles 3	References and notes Career Originally, "Get on Up and Do It Again" was recorded in 1981 with Michelle Mills as the main vocalist and reached number 4 on the Billboard at the end of June Club chart and number 64 on the R&B chart.[2][3] [4] In December 1981, "With Your Love"/"Tonight" peaked at number 12 on the Billboard Club chart.[5]

In 1985, Suzy Q covered a song "Harmony" which was written by Geoff Bastow and Giorgio Moroder.

In 1986, Suzy Q recorded an Italo-disco/Hi-NRG song and club hit called "Can't Live Without Your Love", peaking at number 19 on the Billboard Club chart, which was written by Giovanni D'Orazio and Antonio Bentivegna.[2]

Between years 1987 and 1989, Suzy Q recorded a couple of eurobeat/hi-NRG songs for J.C. Records, then the group split up.

Discography Studio albums Year	Album	US	CA 1981	Get On Up And Do It Again	—	— 1982	Don't You Stop That Feeling	—	— "—" denotes an album that did not chart or was not released in that region. Singles Year	Song	U.S.[2]	U.S. R&B[2]	U.S. Dance[2]	U.S. Dance Sales[2] 1981	"Get on Up Do It Again"	—	#64	#4	— 1982	"Get on Up"	—	—	#12	— "I Can't Give You More"	—	—	—	— "Come Let's Have A Party "	—	—	—	— "Tonight" (Remix)	—	—	—	— 1983	"Don't You Stop The Feeling"	—	—	—	— 1985	"Harmony"	—	—	—	— "Computer Music"	—	—	—	— 1986	"Can't Live Without Your Love"	—	—	#10	#19 1987	"Don't Come Crying To Me"	—	—	—	— 1989	"Fun Fun"	—	—	—	— "Shake, Shake, Shake"	—	—	—	— "—" denotes a single that did not chart or was not released in that region. References and notes "Discogs: Suzy Q". Discogs. Retrieved 2011-08-26. "Billboard: Suzy Q". Billboard, Allmusic. Retrieved 2011-08-26. Suzie Q album cover photos and credits-RFC\Atlantic Records Jerry Cuccazella; producer "Joel Withburn's Hot Dance Disco 1974-2003" "Joel Withburn's Hot Dance Disco 1974-2003" Authority control Edit this at Wikidata MusicBrainz: c2806372-d10e-432b-b358-80dc110f38c2 Categories: Musical groups established in 1981Musical groups disestablished in 1989Musical groups from MontrealCanadian dance music groupsCanadian girl groupsEurobeat musiciansAtlantic Records artists Navigation menu Not logged inTalkContributionsCreate accountLog in ArticleTalk ReadEditView historySearch Search Wikipedia Main page Contents Current events Random article About Wikipedia Contact us Donate Contribute Help Community portal Recent changes Upload file Tools What links here Related changes Special pages Permanent link Page information Cite this page Wikidata item Print/export Download as PDF Printable version

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This is Carol Jiani this is the correct information i was the original female vocalist on the original that charted below thank you Team.

Get on Up and Do It Again From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search "Get on Up and Do It Again" Single by Suzy Q from the album Get On Up and Do It Again Released	1981, 1982 Format	12", 7" Genre	Post-disco, dance-pop Length	6:09 (Album version) 5:45 (1982 version) Label	Atlantic Songwriter(s)	Jerry Cucuzzella, Giovanni D'Orazio, Sergio Panzera Suzy Q singles chronology "Get on Up and Do It Again" (1981)	"Get on Up" (1982) "Get on Up and Do It Again" is a song by Canadian studio project Suzy Q. The song was written by Jerry Cucuzzella, Giovanni D'Orazio, Sergio Panzera and was produced by the J.C. Records owner Jerry Cucuzzella. The song is also included on their album Get On Up And Do It Again.

The original 1981 version has peaked at number 4 on the Billboard Dance chart and the second 1982 version at 12 on the same chart.[1]

Contents 1	Composition 2	Track listing 2.1	Promotional 12" singles 3	Personnel 4	Chart positions 5	Legacy 6	References Composition "Get On Up and Do It Again" is a post-disco and dance-pop with a length of five minutes and 54 seconds (original 12" version). It is set in common time and has a moderate tempo of 112 beats per minute.[2]

Track listing Promotional 12" singles US single[3] "Get On Up Do It Again" (Vocal) (Long Version) – 5:54 "Get On Up Do It Again Pt. II" (Vocal) (Short Version)– 3:28 Canadian single[3] "Get On Up Do It Again" (Vocal) – 5:54 "Get On Up Do It Again" (instrumental) – 3:17 Personnel Jerry Cucuzzella – producer Carol Jiani – vocals (uncredited)[3] Michelle Mills – vocals (second version) Chart positions Chart (1981)	Peak position[1] U.S. Billboard Hot 100	– U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Club Play	4 U.S. Billboard Black Singles	65 Chart (1982)	Peak position U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Club Play	12 Legacy The song was featured on the Grand Theft Auto IV in-game radio station called K109 The Studio. The song was heard in Further Tales of the City. References "Billboard: Suzy Q". Billboard, Allmusic. Retrieved 2011-08-26. Brusca, Donny (2006). BPM List 2006: Main Edition. Lulu.com, 2006. p. 571. ISBN 978-1-84728-860-8. "Get On Up - at Discogs". Discogs. Retrieved August 26, 2011. Categories: 1982 singles1981 singles1981 songsAtlantic Records singlesSongs about sexuality Navigation menu Not logged inTalkContributionsCreate accountLog in ArticleTalk ReadEditView historySearch Search Wikipedia Main page Contents Current events Random article About Wikipedia Contact us Donate Contribute Help Community portal Recent changes Upload file Tools What links here Related changes Special pages Permanent link Page information Cite this page Wikidata item Print/export Download as PDF Printable version

Languages Add links This page was last edited on 7 March 2020, at 02:36 (UTC). Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.5.63 (talk) 09:54, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This isn't the place for article content so I have collapsed its display. If you wish to discuss improvements to an article, the place to do it is the article's talk page, supported by published reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Since this is apparently about Suzy Q (group), the talk page is Talk:Suzy Q (group). —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 17:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Yorkshire football league cup final 1958/59
The cup final was Sheffield United versus Ossett Albion not Ossett Town. I know that that was the final 2 clubs because I played for Ossett Albion in that final  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.233.149 (talk) 10:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know which article this is about, so I can't give you a link, but for each article, there is a talk page. There is a link somewhere on the page (usually near the top) that says soething like "Talk" or "Discussion". Click on that link and add a new section with your suggested change to the article, just like you did here. You will need to provide an independent, published, reliable source, like a newspaper article, that can be cited in the article to verify your assertion, as personal knowledge is not useful here for other editors and readers to verify statements. Thanks. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 17:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Creating a new article
Hello, I'm new in Wikipedia and don't know how it works properly!

I've just sent a request for an article I've made and don't know if it worked...

If it's accepted, how long does it take to be accepted by Wikipedia?

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umma123 (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * please add some citation to the reliable sources before submitting it Majun e Baqi (talk) 10:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I presume that you're asking about Draft:Kim Foon. It says "Draft article not currently submitted for review." So you haven't requested a review. You can do so; but if you do so for the article while it's in anything like its current state, your draft will be declined. Every assertion in the article must be referenced; currently, not a single assertion in the article is referenced. (You give the reader no reason to believe anything that you say.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:YFA if you haven't already. Note that everything that is not common knowledge needs to be CITEd, especially in a biography. See WP:ERB for a quick tutorial on how to insert those cites once you've found them. This is an important issue and will keep the article from being accepted. There are also a couple of Manual of Style issues. Please also take note of WP:BOLD MOS:BOLD – all the bold markup needs to be removed, except for the Kim Foon at the beginning of the first sentence (the "lead"). Also, MOS:DASH says that number ranges should be separated by an en dash (1992–1993) instead of a hyphen (1992-1993). (see the link for how to create the character if you're not familiar). Thanks. —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 18:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , you have now made some fixes that were easy to make, and added a short list of references. I clicked on one of them, to "Yale University Art Gallery". It's a good reference for a claim that this one work by Kim is at the YUAG -- and that's all. So immediately after the sentence or list item that makes this claim, you should add something like, which, as it is evidence for nothing else, shouldn't appear in any list of references. -- Hoary (talk) 04:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Liverpool Sound and Vision/ Ian D. Hall
To whom it may concern,

I am writing in regards to am enquiry. I run and own a web site called Liverpool Sound and Vision which deals with arts reviews, and which I so pleased to see quoted on many occasions on Wikipedia. I was wondering how one goes about having a page written. I also enquire as being a writer, as well as a reviewer, I have had two novels released, The Death Of Poetry and Dark Chrysalis, with two more novels to come in the next 15 months, as well as three books of poetry.

I am aware I cannot do this myself but wondered how to put the information up on line.

My apologies for such a silly question. Yours sincerely, Ian D. Hall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:6360:7200:DB5:1490:B2D9:693F (talk) 12:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for asking. When there numerous reviews or articles about your works are published, it's likely that somebody will want to create an article about you. There's really no way to encourage article creation (other than by paying some company to do it -- not a good idea, because even if the company delivers, the resulting article will invite deletion, ridicule or both). There is a way to suggest creation of an article: in Requested articles/Biography/By profession. However, I have no reason to believe that anyone goes through the many suggestions there and acts on any of them. -- Hoary (talk) 12:32, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, Ian. It's not a silly question: thank you for asking rather than plunging in and trying to write about yourself. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a place for telling the world about things (that's called promotion, and is forbidden. If there is ever an article about you or your website, the article will not belong to you, you will have no control over the contents, and it should be based almost 100% on what people unconnected with you have chosen to publish about you, in edited, reliable places, not on what you have said or published, or what you want said. If you can find several sources which will establish that you or the website meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then an article could be written: you are discouraged from writing it yourself because you are likely to find it hard to meet the standard for neutrality; but you are not forbidden. If you can find them, it might be worth seeing if anybody in WikiProject Arts or WikiProject Merseyside would be interested in writing an article; if you cannot find such sources, then any further time and effort that you or anybody else put in will be wasted. --ColinFine (talk) 13:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)


 * An article about Liverpool Sound and Vision would require that the subject itself, Liverpool Sound and Vision, is notable by our definition, which means you would need to find reliable sources that discuss it, while avoiding Common sourcing mistakes (notability). I have often thought that we need articles, perhaps in a dedicated namespace, for sources that are used in multiple articles but that do not meet our notability guidelines, but that is not currently the case. -Arch dude (talk) 15:00, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Named references
In COVID-19 pandemic in Tamil Nadu, there are bunch of named refs added at the bottom. There was a big table before(as a template), which used most of them. Now the table is moved out of the article. Most(about half) of those refs are not used anywhere in article as inline citations. Once I remove everything, is there a BOT that rescues only the used named refs from previous revisions? (I vaguely know there is a BOT for this.) - Timbaaa -> ping me 12:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

How can I change my username?
How can I change my username? Thanks. --J. Wiwat (talk) 14:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * See Changing username. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Word Counter for GOCE
Hello! I recently joined the GOCE and I recently made my first edit for the Backlog elimination drive. One of the instructions for the Backlog elimination drive is to download a word counter and then enter the number of words before you edited the article. I followed the instructions to install the word counter and I can’t find “Page size” on the toolbar on the left. Did I download the word counter correctly? Fellowtorontonian (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Not familiar with what needs doing, but see Prosesize Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

How to use one source multiple times
In the Meowth article, I noticed the citation needed at the articles beginning, I found that the sources needed were already on the article, as they were referenced later on. How do I bring these sources to the beginning of the article without creating a new source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (Oinkers42) (talk • contribs) 21:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * see Help:Footnotes TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  21:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Profile
Hello there ..

My question, how i can make a profile about my self ? Is it possible to do it ?

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.Yaqoub Aleinzi (talk • contribs) 22:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Please don't. See WP:AUTOBIO. J I P  &#124; Talk 22:32, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you meant an article, such as the one we have on Lee Hsien Loong, you don't. Writing about yourself is highly discouraged and faces all kinds of problems.  If you want to try anyway, see "How to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted" in this guide I wrote.  We're not a social media network, we're not a resume hosting site, we're not a place to promote your career.
 * If you mean your user page, look over the instructions at WP:UP and fill out User:Dr.Yaqoub Aleinzi. Note that your user page is for information about how you will help Wikipedia, not a place to try to hide an article about yourself or your practice. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)