Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 July 31

= July 31 =

Question
How does a user know if their article is submitted to reviewers or not? All i see is a blue publish button. I have been watching youtube videos about submitting drafts and most of the videos have a 'save' button at the bottom of the draft page. My draft does not have a save button at all. How do i submit this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azazus (talk • contribs) 02:43, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * the "save" button was renamed "publish" several years ago. Our lawyers made us do it and it causes much confusion. It means "publish" in the sense of copyright law, since other editors can see your material as soon as you hit that button. It does not mean "publish" in the non-lawyer sense of making it available as a Wikipedia article. Please read WP:YFA to see how to create an article. Your draft article will be created with a "submit" box that allows you to submit it for review. -Arch dude (talk) 03:25, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Changing age over time
Let's say that a Wikipedia article contains a sentence such as this: Former President Jimmy Carter, now age 100, currently lives in Hawaii.  (That's a hypothetical example.)  Is there some template that will allow the "age 100" phrase to adjust as the years go by, without someone having to manually re-enter it every year? I tried using a template, but it ended up saying something like: Former President Jimmy Carter, now July 31, 1920 age 100, currently lives in Hawaii.  Because I had to enter the birth date into the template to calculate the current age of 100. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Joseph A. Spadaro, that template is meant to be used in an infobox, which is why it came out garbled in the article. Best to say that he turned 100 on a certain date, in prose.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But, that misses the point.  I want to indicate a person's current age ... right now ... today.  We can do that in an Info Box.  Can we not do that in article text?     Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * He is currently 103 years old.  I used 103 to generate the number of years. See age. -Arch dude (talk) 04:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * (but he's really only 99). 99 . -Arch dude (talk) 04:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Aside from the oldest person in the world, someone's current age is not especially noteworthy in the body of a biography. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:48, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree in Carter's case. His age is routinely mentioned in sources. There is also the bit that infoboxes are supposed to summarize material that is in the body of the article, not be the only place something is found (not that I necessarily always agree with that, but it does seem to be the standard). —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 06:20, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For a discussion of whether or not to use this construct in an article, please see MOS:RELTIME. Basically, it appears that you should not use it without an "as of" of some sort. I'm not sure I agree. -Arch dude (talk) 14:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Uploading Picture
How do I upload pictures?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Millender-McDonald

I'd like to update the picture to reflect her true nature.

https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0705/images/remembrance-enlarge.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoegal2547 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Use the File Upload Wizard. Your proposed picture appears to have been taken by a US government employee and is therefore in the public domain, so upload it to Commons, not just locally to the English Wikipedia. Pick the copyright status that designated it's a US government public domain image. -Arch dude (talk) 05:12, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Doubt about references
There's no reference about plot in Mr. Bean (Mr. Bean episode), but still it is published on Wikipedia since a really long time. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 06:05, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Plot sections generally don't need to be referenced, because the work itself is the reference for the plot. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Is that true? I've always ref'd plots. Is that written down anywhere? Herostratus (talk) 08:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * MOS:PLOTSOURCE. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:46, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ohhh OK thanks. Herostratus (talk) 21:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

How exactly do I add a table like the one shown in this screenshot?
Hi there,

I am trying to create a single row/cell table on the right side and top of a wiki article like in the screenshot within this link for the same purpose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Sheeran

Can anybody guide me on how to do this?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher McLaren (talk • contribs) 08:40, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you mean the table under the image, that is called an infobox. Much information can be found at MOS:IBX. They are created using one of dozens (or more) of templates as listed here. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:09, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I share Eagleash's uncertainty over the exact question. If you mean the table format found in the Filmography subsection, the table tool for that kind of table can be accessed via "advanced" in the options at the top of the edit window, and the how to is found at HELP:Tables. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:13, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


 * It may be that the new user is trying to create a profile or article about themselves in their userpage. I have left regular links and a message about same at their talk. Eagleash (talk) 09:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I need help with writing the following article:
Blaux Félix An (talk) 13:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Your article did little more than confirm the existence of the product you wrote about, as well as a criticism of it. Wikipedia aritcles must do more, they must summarize significant coverage in independent reliable sources that shows how the subject meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability.  Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest thing to do on Wikipedia.  If you haven't already, I would suggest reviewing Your First Article and using the new user tutorial to learn more about the process.  You could then visit Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for another editor to look at before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, so you find out any problems first. 331dot (talk) 13:57, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , may you please restore the article at Draft:Blaux so I can work on it, please? Thanks! Félix An (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I will shortly restore it to draft space where you can work on it and then submit it for a review. It will need to be significantly expanded with more information and reliable sources.  I would strongly urge you to review the pages I linked to above before attempting to do so. 331dot (talk) 14:12, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It is at Draft:Blaux. 331dot (talk) 14:14, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Hair Club Page - Name change
Hello!

I need to change a page name but I am unable to do that. Can you help me out with the process of changing a page name?

Thank you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_Club — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akamvar (talk • contribs) 14:13, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Click more at the top of the page and select move', then provide the page name and a reason and you'll be done. Cheers, CompassOwl   (talk to me!)  15:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , it seems that you are not autoconfirmed (account has been registered for at least 4 days with at least 10 edits) and would be unable to make the move yourself. Assuming that the move isn't controversial, you may start a move request over in this section. A template is provided above the section to properly format the request. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  15:23, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * and, this does look like an uncontroversial technical move that matches the subject's current branding so I moved Hair Club to HairClub. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Eggishorn! — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  16:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Google book search
Google books often provides snippets from a book rather than the entire contents. The Google books page includes an option to search for text. I think it is the case that the search will apply to the entire book not simply the snippets available for preview, but I'd like someone to tell me if my assumption is correct. In particular, if I search for " Ashkenazi" as I did here, can I state that the response "no results found in this book for Ashkenazi" means that I can say the word does not appear in the book, versus the more limited claim that it does not appear in the available snippets?-- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:13, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

inter-language link
While editing the article on Elena Nikandrovna Klokacheva, I tried to construct a link to an article in the Russian Wikipedia on Pavel Osipovich Kovalevsky. It is red, but I can't see what I did wrong. Will someone please set it right, or explain my mistake, or both? J S Ayer (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Everything is working as intended there. The red link shows that the English Wikipedia does not have an article on the thing being linked to, and the light-blue-linked [ru] links to the article on the Russian Wikipedia, showing that there is an article on that wiki. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:55, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! J S Ayer (talk) 04:14, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Requests_for_closure#Talk:List_of_Fast_N'_Loud_episodes#Split_/_Lynn_Anderson_discography
Administrators%27_noticeboard/Requests_for_closure has been open for almost two months. Is there a way to speed this along? Please ping me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , it has already been listed at WP:ANRFC, so, no. Please be patient, there's WP:NODEADLINE and everyone who works off that list is a volunteer. Closing discussions is non-trivial in terms of time commitment so it sometimes takes a while. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Create a page
How do i create a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borobean (talk • contribs) 16:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , please see these instructions and this help page. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:09, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

correcting error on a page
a page is locked to prevent vandalism but it is listing dangerously inaccurate information. The page for the III% states it is listed on the Southern Poverty Law Center as an anti-govt group. This is false information as the III% are listed no where on the Southern Poverty Law Center. I am a hispanic woman and member of the III% and I want to amend this error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deborah Pendleton (talk • contribs) 20:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , you mean this page at the SPLC's website? The page labeled "Antigovernment Movements" that devotes a paragraph to Three Percenters and also lists many individual 3%er organizations/militias? Is that the one that is "...listed no where on the Southern Poverty Law Center"? Unlike many claims disseminated by various groups, Wikipedia relies on citing sources and that looks like a well-cited claim to me. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:58, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to search for pages that are in specific category combinations?
For example, say I want to generate a list of pages that are in both Category:FA-Class biography articles and Category:FA-Class India articles? Or Category:FA-Class biography articles and Category:FA-Class Religion articles? How would I go about doing that? I'm sure there must be a tool or query I could run. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 20:48, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've never tried it, but from the description, PetScan can do this. RudolfRed (talk) 23:16, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * PetScan has advanced features like subcategories. The search box can handle simple cases with . A talkspace search works: . It can be combined with other search parameters but it can only search individual pages, not something with one thing on the talk page and another on the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:57, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you both!

Am having problems logging in
Why am I not allowed to log in? It gives me the notice of preventing hijacking and at the same time telling me to resubmit the form. It is also suggesting cookies problem. What is really happening? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.112.112.171 (talk) 21:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * why move this here instead of WP:VPT where it is probably a better fit? Help Desk can't really help with technical issues.   RudolfRed (talk) 23:58, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's my understanding that VPT is for when you suspect something wrong with the site. If there was something wrong with the site, there would be far more complaints than one. Virtually any problem or question involving use of the site could be considered a "technical issue" depending on the user's knowledge level, so the distinction doesn't seem very useful. It's also my understanding that some very technical people help out on this page. If no resolution is forthcoming on this page, then VPT could be tried. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  00:21, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Saturday Night Live
I recently created the list article List of celebrities who unsuccessfully auditioned for Saturday Night Live. Since Saturday Night Live is a name of a show, how do I italicize those words on the article title? Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 22:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , you're going to want to use . For the "string" parameter just put in "Saturday Night Live" and it should get you the formatting you need for the title. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  22:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I seem to be having trouble. Could you help me please? Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 22:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , check to see what I did. 😀 — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 )  23:02, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm dubious that any of your sources are reliable, apart from Entertainment Weekly. Certainly WP:RSNP lists BuzzFeed as not reliable, and some editors don't regard Biography.com as reliable, though there is no consensus on that one. There is also no consensus whether Screen Rant is reliable. --ColinFine (talk) 23:23, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Please address your concern at Talk:List of celebrities who unsuccessfully auditioned for Saturday Night Live. Thank you. Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 18:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Fear of MLB season being Cancelled
This Coronavirus Outbreak which by the way has no end in sight if this continues i'm afraid it will be cancelled and all there is will be more of that stupid MTV Show Ridiculousness with Steel-lo Brim And Chanel West Coast. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 23:46, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no control of the MLB schedule. Please post again if you have a question about using Wikipedia.  RudolfRed (talk) 23:56, 31 July 2020 (UTC)