Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 June 13

= June 13 =

Infobox is displaying file name rather than image
On PubChem, the infobox simply displays the file name rather than the intended image. Can someone have a look at it? I believe the template page contains an error. – Batreeq ( Talk ) (Contribs) 00:36, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The logo was being displayed correctly before your recent edits. The examples in Template:Infobox biodatabase show the syntax;  note that the syntax varies between different infobox templates.  I have corrected the syntax error, see .  --David Biddulph (talk) 00:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Should Entries Be Written For Widest Possible Audience Or Only Subject Experts?
Good evening.

I notice that some Wikipedia articles are written almost entirely in subject-specific jargon and assume that readers have a very high level of knowledge about the topic already. Is this practice part of the policy of the site?

Or should editors attempt to explain the topic using everyday language so that the entry can be understood by the public at large?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by EyeAmBobJunior (talk • contribs)
 * With regard to the question in the title: yes.
 * MOS:JARGON does say to avoid being overly technical where possible but acknowledges that's simply impossible for some subjects. Where it is impossible, the MOS suggests writing introductory articles to introduce the technical language that must be understood to grasp a concept. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:32, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If you think an article uses too much jargon or assumes an unreasonable degree of prior knowledge, you can place the template technical on it, explaining the issue in your edit summary or on the article talk page. Then, in theory, other editors will be alerted to the problem and it will probably eventually be fixed. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

North Riding of Yorkshire
Ref number  1  -  should  have  the  quote  in  black,  not  red. Please repair. Sorry and  please  don't  get  angry  175.32.219.132 (talk) 06:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, Lupton editor! Remember what I said here, about how when I discover I've made a mess, I try to fix it myself; and, if I can't, I self-revert? -- Hoary (talk) 06:16, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will  keep  trying -  Thanks  as always 175.32.219.132 (talk) 06:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! -- Hoary (talk) 08:10, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Want to know about how can i post my biography on wikipedia
Dear sir, I want to post my Biography in wikipedia... our website is www.doctorypssewanidhi.in ... advise me How I should post my Biography? (contributions) 06:06, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * If you mean a biography of yourself or somebody you know, please do not attempt this. Please read Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. -- Hoary (talk) 06:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Austrian Hospice English Article
Dear Wikipedia help desk members,

I am wondering what happend to the English version of the following article: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96sterreichisches_Hospiz_zur_Heiligen_Familie

If I search for the English version this is the only entry I can find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Family,_Jerusalem This is an article about a chapel located in the Austrian Hospice but there is none about the institution itself.

I sure an English article about the Austrian Hospice existed but I can't find any notice about it, neither in the edit history of the entries mentioned above, nor in the Deletion log (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete).

Could you please help me to find out what happend to the article and how to possibly restore it?

Thank you very much! Best regards AustrianHospice (talk) 12:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikimedia Commons has plenty of relevant pictures, see . But I can find no evidence that an article on the Hospice has ever existed in en:Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 12:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Tai Tham Font
Sir, I have tried to write my article on Wikipedia with Tai Tham (Khuen) Language. But it is not supported Tai Tham Font. I am a person who is a Tai Tham font developer and Tai Tham (Khuen) user. How can I include Tai Tham font to Wikipedia. This is my font https://drive.google.com/file/d/18mprnNJedVPVFiis9tL2S52GxV2Nn_lX/view. Thanks


 * This help desk is for the English language Wikipedia. You can find a list of other language Wikipedias at meta:List of Wikipedias, and if the language in which you are interested isn't there it tells you the process you would need to go through to get a new Wikipedia started. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:43, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * , are you asking about the use of your font to display Tai Tham script within English-language Wikipedia? (I can imagine that Tai Tham script would be helpful in very many articles, e.g. Chiang Rai.) If so, I suggest that you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems, whose participants are likely to be familiar with the issues that your question raises. -- Hoary (talk) 22:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * When I look at the Tai Tham script article with my Firefox browser, the unicodes for the lana script are displayed as what I assume are the correct characters. I don't think Wikipedia has anything to do with this other than sending the proper unicode. The user's browser must have the proper fonts installed. -Arch dude (talk) 23:36, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

"Killing_of_George_Floyd"
I attempted to insert the following in the subcatgory, "People involved, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd#People_involved

In an interview on CNN by Chis Cuomo, Mr. Lane's lawyer described the two verbal warnings his client gave to Clauvin of the danger of severe harm., which he rebuffed. This was the standard of the existing regulations, that was increased in a pending ex post facto law. He also stated that when Floyd entered the ambulance long initiated CPR <Ref//https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/minneapolis-officer-attorney-george-floyd/index.html

I didn't have the correct coding for the interview reforce. It's relevantto the discussion and would like to get it included. I will give my email for this, as it is soon to be removed (redacted) Arodb (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've redacted your email for your protection; in addition, Wikipedia related matters should be discussed on Wikipedia unless sensitive private information is involved. The proper place to discuss this is on the article talk page, Talk:Killing of George Floyd. 331dot (talk) 16:48, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

A correction on my profile: Pontiano Kaleebu
I'm a full professor of immunovirology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (Not honorary). But also

2010			Fellow of Imperial College London, Faculty of Medicine

2016			Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh- FRCP Edin

2020			Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences-FMedSci — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.83.14.33 (talk • contribs) 13 June 2020 102.83.14.33 17:05 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have "profiles", it has articles . Please offer any suggestions for improving the article on its talk page, Talk:Pontiano Kaleebu. 331dot (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Or for a little more explanation of how this works, please see WP:AUTOPROB. --ColinFine (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Artist wants to post her own work
Hi,

I am assisting an artist who has had a Wikipedia page for many years. The page included a sample of one of her art works. Recently the artwork file was removed by the Filedelinkerbot and saying it was non-free media. What does this artist need to do to give Wiki permission to use her own image of her own work for her own wiki page?

Please help. Thanks,

K in LA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmflores (talk • contribs) — Kmflores (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Hi K, have a look at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. However, please do note that there's no way to donate the material so that only Wikipedia can use it: files donated to Wikipedia have to be released under a licence that allows other people to use it also.  (She could donate a low-resolution version, however.)  YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 18:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The last bit of what said is not quite accurate: non-free images may be used in limited circumstances, one of which is that they are uploaded in low resolution; but there's no question of "donation", because permission is neither sought nor needed. But the uploader is responsible for making sure that all the non-free content criteria are met. --ColinFine (talk) 20:36, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I was referring to a slightly different scenario with that last bit: I believe it's the case that the artist could choose to release a low-res photograph of their work under a free licence, and keep higher-res versions as "all rights reserved". YorkshireLad ✿  (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. I've never heard of an artist doing that. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe that it's not the case, but I'd defer to the expertise of others. (Paging !) -- Hoary (talk) 22:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * An artist certainly can choose to release a low-res version o9f a work under a free licene, but not a high-res version. Most prefer not to do so, however. I encountered one case where an artist chose to release a low-res version so it could be used on Wikipedia. This was several years ago, and I don't recall the name of the wo0rk or any details. An artist wanting to do that should follow the steps at Donating copyrighted materials.  DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 23:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks! I can't remember where I've seen this in Project space, but I think I was thinking of when the National Portrait Gallery in London released low-res images under CC BY-NC-ND while keeping the high-res ones for academic use only.  (Obviously this is not directly relevant as that's too restrictive a licence for Commons, and the WMF considers even the high-res versions of many of them to be public domain in the US based on the age of the portraits themselves. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 23:09, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If an artist releases a lo-res image under the appropriate license (CC-BY-SA), then anyone in the world can reuse that image AND ANY DERIVATIVES for any purpose. The copyright covers "creative elements" of the image. Another artist could choose to create a work based on this image in any medium, at any resolution, and sell it, so long as they attribute the original artist. For instance, I could grab the image and begin hacking away using Photoshop to produce a new image, or if I had the skill, I could try my hand at a painting. Please make sure the original artist is aware of this before proposing such a copyright license.-Arch dude (talk) 01:02, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * We usually get a bit huffy when someone calls it "her own page", but in truth it's a common mistake. It's not her page, it's Wikipedia's article about her. She (and you, as her paid agent) have less rights than other editors to modify that page. Anyone else can just edit the page. She is restricted by her "conflict of interest" (WP:COI), and you are even further restricted by your paid status (WP:PAID). This is not a problem, it's just a fact, and we can help you make needed changes to the article. -Arch dude (talk) 01:10, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

REFUND question
awhile ago, I had a dispute with an editor over my content, which led to it being reverted, and a non-free image being deleted as a result. I meant to seek dispute resolution at the time, but ended up taking a wikibreak. having returned, I've restored the section without trouble (sans image), and I haven't heard from the dissenting editor yet. my question is: should I contact that editor first, and make sure they've withdrawn their objection, or should I go ahead with a REFUND? Xcalibur (talk) 23:26, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm having trouble understanding why are you asking for a refund. You don't earn anything from editing Wikipedia, nor does it cost you anything. What kind of "refund" are you talking about? J I P  &#124; Talk 23:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please check out WP:REFUND. I cannot tell from your description if the refund process applies in this instance. I would contact the other editor, to avoid the hassle of doing this all over again. If no answer after a few days, go for the refund if appropriate. -Arch dude (talk) 23:58, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 1. I'm referring to WP:REFUND, which stands for REquests For UNDeletion. 2. the image is certainly fair use, it was only orphaned because of a content dispute. this is really a question on etiquette/protocol, if there's no definite rule on this, I'll most likely proceed. Xcalibur (talk) 00:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If nothing has been deleted as opposed to reverted, there is nothing for WP:REFUND to do, writing as an admin who has restored quite a few pages in response to requests there. REFUND is only for cases where whole articles (or pages such as drafts or user pages) have been deleted. If you were able to restore the text by normal editing, it is not a REFUND issue. As to contacting the other editor, it is in no way required, but it might not be a bad idea. I would advise starting a discussion on the talk page of the article involved, explaining there what you restored and why, and ping the other editor to provide notice. The other editor can choose to respond or not. But in no sense is such a discussion mandatory. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:26, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * this concerns a deleted image, and I did post to the talk page. that clears it up, thanks. Xcalibur (talk) 00:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I misread the question. J I P  &#124; Talk 10:10, 14 June 2020 (UTC)