Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 March 29

= March 29 =

AFC Submission codes
Where is the full documentation for, for example, explaining how to generate and interpret , and where is the wiki markup generated by these parameters stored, so I can de-lint it or at least request others to de-lint it? —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:20, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * means copyright violation cleaned up. It's made manually. See WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions. Expand the box and then expand "Copyright cleanup instructions". The text produced by this and many of the other parameters is in AFC submission/comments.  is the submitting username and the namespace number, added automatically by {{subst:submit}}. I don't know whether it's documented. If you say the linter issue then maybe we can give better help. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * PrimeHunter: Thanks, but as I asked before, "where is the wiki markup generated by these parameters stored"? For example, the markup generated by  includes , and has a missing end tag for.

About Drawing
Can you tell me, that drawing is a art, or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARTPICUTRELOVER (talk • contribs) 13:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As you describe yourself as an art teacher, you should know. Meanwhile, this page is for questions about how to use Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 13:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * According to Wikipedia, "Drawing is a form of visual art".--Shantavira|feed me 14:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

A misnomer
This appeal concerns the Wikipedia URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier

The first sentence in the Article tab reads: 'Eduard Albert Meier (born February 3, 1937), commonly nicknamed "Billy" is the founder of a UFO religion called the "Freie Interessengemeinschaft für Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften und Ufologiestudien" (Free Community of Interests for the Border and Spiritual Sciences and Ufological Studies) and alleged contactee whose UFO photographs are claimed to show alien spacecraft.'

I have good reason to advise that the words, 'is the founder of a UFO religion ...' be properly changed to 'is the founder of a non-religious movement ...'

I will see about creating a wikipedia account so I can corrrect the misnomer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.58.116 (talk) 16:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, you do not need to create an account to edit Wikipedia articles, although it can assist both you and the Wiki community in a number of ways if you do. The best place to discuss this is at the article talk page. If reliable sources have described this movement as a religion, then Wikipedia will report on what they say. Eagleash (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Got a MacBook Pro?
Over at Talk:Favicon a bot said that an image of Favicon images in MacBook Pro control strip is up for deletion for containing a non-free logo. Could someone with a macbook pro make a new image with only free favicons and replace the current image? Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Changing a page name
How do I change the name of a page? Arrecife (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * this is done by 'moving' the article via the 'more' tab near the top of the page. Your account appears to be 'autocofirmed' so this should be available to you. See WP:MOVE for more information. If the move is likely to be in any way controversial then it should be discussed first at the article talk page. (Note that a lot of your edits relate to the current health issues). Eagleash (talk) 18:18, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It relates to a Reserve/Park that has changed its name. I have figured out the process, thanx. Arrecife (talk) 18:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Specialized Carriers & Rigging Association
I am registered to be a wikipedia contributor and have in fact already successfully done so on another page. I recently submitted a very brief statement of facts in attempt to create a page for this international trade association. Facts as in - they are documented on the association's web site and are factually correct. yes i am employed by the association and that appears to be why it was denied. Question - whom then is eligible to create this page? anyone who would have an interest in creating it would in some way have some connection or conflict as you call it!? For example, I noted one of our sister associations, American Trucking Associations has quite the page. They tell me that while many have contributed to it over the years, often it has been persons associated with ATA. please advise. many thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenatodd (talk • contribs) 18:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If you have any connection with the company you should read both WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter is mandatory under the terms of use) and make the necessary declarations. You can then make requests for changes at the article talk page. See Template:Request edit for more information on how to do this. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 18:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)


 * To create a new page, please read WP:YFA. Since you are a paid editor, you are required (not just strongly advised) to use the AfC process described there instead of trying to just create and article directly. If you follow the procedure carefully, especially with regard to reliable sourcing and neutral point of view, you will be successful. Be especially mindful of sourcing traps for the unwary: see Common sourcing mistakes (notability). -Arch dude (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Please understand that Wikipedia is basically not interested in what the subject of an article says, or wants to say, about themselves. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to say about them (and then been published in reliable places). It follows that any article about your company must be based on articles, books etc written without your company's involvement in any way. Only if such sources exist will your company meet Wikipedia's criteria fro notability, and only then will an article be accepted, whoever writes it. --ColinFine (talk) 19:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

uploading information for my school project, for Crepidula convexa
It wont let me enter information into the sandbox. it comes up as error and wont let me problem shoot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gianni Pimentel (talk • contribs) 20:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You've got some stuff already added in at User:Gianni_Pimentel/sandbox. Please let us know more detail about the error you are seeing.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Danny Edwards professional golfer
You have a ridiculous picture of someone else on my page with yellow hair! Please do a little research and find a decent pic. There are plenty out there!

Your statistics on my US Open appearances are short at least three, '72, '73, '74 I played in all three. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58B:200:38C0:B495:3CC0:58C8:C1C5 (talk) 23:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that you register an account and then confirm your identity with Wikipedia by following the instructions at WP:REALNAME; you could then, if you wish to, release a photo for use on Wikipedia, or otherwise have the incorrect photo removed. 331dot (talk) 23:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy link to article show that there's no photo Danny Edwards. Instead, it's good old Google putting the wrong photo in the Knowledge Graph again. You have to contact them by clicking on the feedback link on the Knowledge Graph panel, or maybe it can be removed by uploading a picture that we can add to your article which will hopefully overwrite the mystery photo in Google's sprawling database. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  00:37, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Google took the random photo from []. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  00:41, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Our stock answer to confused posts like this:
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


 * We have no control over Google's approach to showing pictures without attribution and making it seem like they came from Wikipedia. They are a multi-billion-dollar company that uses highly-sophisticated computer algorithms running on an unbelievably large number of computers, which allows them to make a large number of mistakes very quickly. We, on the other hand, rely on about 100,000 active self-selected unpaid volunteer human editors, so we make our mistakes slightly more slowly. We have policies about our pictures. We only use pictures that have explicit liberal copyright licenses. Almost all random pictures on the Internet, like the one Google found (incorrectly), do not have such licenses and it is in the opinion of our lawyers a violation of copyright law to use them. Please do a little research and find a properly-licenced image of you on the Internet and point us to it, or produce such an image after doing a little research on copyright law as it relates to images and on how to upload it for use on Wikipedia. We can help you with that last step. -Arch dude (talk) 01:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Danny: Because you said "There are plenty out there!", I wanted to point out that the primary thing that you will see from reading the links above is that, even though the picture is of you, the person who takes the photo is generally the copyright owner (not you) unless there is a contract to the contrary (and those often only provide for limited use, not the ability to release it under the free license required here). —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 16:55, 30 March 2020 (UTC)