Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 March 31

= March 31 =

How do I make a redirect?
Trying to do 1 but don't know how? Help? New3400 (talk) 00:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * See Redirect. If you want help on something then try writing it after  in the search box. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Berney baronets
In this second  last  line - In December 1921, the funeral cortege of Lady Berney of Parkehall (nee Jane Dorothy Bloxham), widow of Sir Henry Hanson Berney, 9th Baronet, reportedly.....  -  please  place  an  accent  over  two  words -  cortege  and  nee. Thanks -  I  cannot  get  it on right. 175.33.49.35 (talk) 04:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Done Rojomoke (talk) 04:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Free vandalism
Hello Sir Madam, Greetings!

I noticed that "User: Joanrivers" only created an account just to attack wikipedia pages. His first edit was to nominate this page for deletion. He even added (2nd nomination) and went ahead to vandalize the page removing some references and also nominated another pages for deletion.

(Please see the attached Screenshot https://ibb.co/vYRcnvH )

This is quite sad and discouraging for me at this time of COVID-19 crisis. Is this how the English wikipedia platform works?

Thanks & Regards Ashish VermaAshish Verma 9891 (talk) 06:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * has had an account for over five years. The first item on her contribution list is to nominate Bhanu Srivastav (not this page) for deletion. I can see no evidence of vandalism by her. I do find it odd that for a five-year-old account of a clearly competent editor, the contributions list only goes back one day. Maproom (talk) 07:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Maproom : That user has multiple accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashish Verma 9891 (talk • contribs) 07:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * A first look at the article Bhanu Srivastav suggested to me that it was junk. (I've already removed a pair of sentences that come with a bogus reference.) If the article turns out to be complete junk, this does not necessary mean that the biographee should have no article. However, nominating this article for deletion hardly looks to me like vandalism. -- Hoary (talk) 08:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , a checkuser has blocked the account as possibly compromised. However, this doesn't remove the deletion processes, especially as it seems they had merit.  Alex Noble / 1-2 / TRB  11:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If you are trying to ping someone, you need to link to their userpage like this: [[User:Ashish Verma 9891 ]], ore you can use a template such as Ashish Verma 9891   15:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Berney baronets
Please add the accent over the  word  nee at the  end of the  family  history  section. Thanks and  sorry  again. 175.33.49.35 (talk) 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Done (although the noteworthiness of the subject matter quite eludes me). What is the device that you are using? -- Hoary (talk) 09:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Template glitching out wierdly
Hi, I created NoSig to help editors at the Teahouse remind users to sign their talk messages. It's such a simple template but it is glitching out and causing signatures that go after the template to be put in  for some reason. Like this: Producing this: — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ  • Talk∕Contribs 17:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC) I thought it was because it wasn't being substituted but I can't figure out how to make the template automatically substitute without manually putting in the prefix. Can someone help? — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ  • Talk∕Contribs 17:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Templates should place  so no unwanted line breaks are in the output. That often means to start or end on an existing line with text. I have edited the template but we already have Uw-tilde. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia User Level 2
Hello Wikipedia Foundation,

My name is Daric Erminôte and I join wikipedia in order to write my biography because many people asked me to do it. As I understood, a Wikipedia Level 2 user is required to write a self biography, and many references required in order to process the publication.

I went on google and I wrote the keyword "wikipedia writer" and I pick a random writer that promise to me to write on my draft; he was https://www.procreativewriters.com/ promising 150$ for it and honestly they did not done anything, I been scammed from fake reviews.

I would ask you how to arrange a level 2 account on wikipedia without publishing anything and without modifying public pages because actually nobody ask me help.

Looking forward remote help or the guideline to work properly on my account.

Regard, Daric Erminôte — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daric erminote (talk • contribs) 19:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * we don't have user levels, so please clarify what you mean by that. You should read WP:AUTO before attempting to write an autobiography. RudolfRed (talk) 19:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually it is unclear.. I can't even upload photos. Can I ask you help on this Draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Daric_Ermin%C3%B4te — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daric erminote (talk • contribs) 19:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, please read the autobiography policy to learn why writing about yourself is strongly discouraged here. Wikipedia is not interested in what you want to say about yourself, only in what others say about you, if you meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. This is not social media where we tell about ourselves. The rules here may be different than those of the Italian Wikipedia or other language versions. 331dot (talk) 19:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I saw many people not that notable on wikipedia, honestly I believe my argument is more interesting than many on wikipedia, but of course I realized nobody want to add me on wikipedia because of notoriety of whatever. Some people really kindly asked me to check on how to add myself on wikipedia, but nobody want to help me and I am not really interested to become a writer; I really believe it is helpful to recognize information but it is not a priority. Now, if you believe it is right to help me, fine! If you don't then I will wait someone that has interesting in marketing to add me on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daric erminote (talk • contribs) 20:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * We are helping you by telling you that what you want to do is not advisable. Wikipedia prefers that independent editors write articles, as people naturally write favorably about themselves. If you hire someone to write for you, they must comply with the paid editing policy and tell that you are paying them. You should not hand over any money until you see the finished article- and be advised that whomever you pay cannot make any guarantees. 331dot (talk) 20:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You may be looking to make a userpage  16:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

We pay only for warranties, that is the reason why we make great things. I already saw what happen trusting wikipedia and his writers, scammers in-sum. Of course nobody is working for free, but a warranty is required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daric erminote (talk • contribs) 20:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , you aren't understanding the advice here. DO NOT DO THIS. Do not create "your own page". Do not ask another person to create "your page". Most certainly do not pay another person to create "your page." No matter how many people ask you to. Articles on Wikipedia are not social media profiles and there is no such thing as "your page" to begin with. If you are notable according to this site's guidelines, some one will create an article about you anyway. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * , in addition to what others have said: if at some time English Wikipedia has an article about you (whoever writes it), it will not be your article, you will not have control over the contents, it will not necessarily say what you want it to say, and nearly all its contents will be based upon what people who are not connected with you have written about you, in reliably published places. Please see the essay WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. --ColinFine (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * You might find the website https://en.everybodywiki.com more suitable for your purpose.--Shantavira|feed me 09:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

How to get an article?
Hello Wikipedia, I really would like to know, how we can get an Article about our Game project in development Scars of Honor. I can provide all kinds of information. My question is do I create the Article somehow or the editors of Wikipedia?Puffymuffinz9 (talk) 20:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * To be frank, Wikipedia is not concerned with whether you want an article about your project or not. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Wikipedia is not interested in what an article subject wants to say about itself.  Typically, articles are written by independent editors who take note of a subject in reliable sources and choose to write about it.  You would have a conflict of interest if you attempted to write about it yourself- you would also need to declare as a paid editor. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Linking non-profit vs profit content
I recall there is a policy or guideline we should favor non-profit content over for-profit, when possible. For example linking to a free online library copy of a book vs. amazon.com .. where would that be discussed? -- Green  C  20:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I think what you are looking for it WP:AFFILIATE. --ColinFine (talk) 21:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you very much. -- Green  C  21:40, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not aware of any policy that says we should favor non-profit content over for-profit, or vice versa. But as an editor, I have observed that people representing a business often feel slightly apologetic about using Wikipedia to promote it, whereas people representing a non-profit often show a sense of entitlement, which makes them harder to work with. Maproom (talk) 22:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It's also progressively annoying to see such paid "non-profit"ers refer to Amazon, when they really mean Google Books, which provides scans for many non-profit institutions, including Archive.org, the organisation that seems to pay Wikipedia and Wikimedia 'volunteers' to mass push archive.org links in as many articles and file pages as possible. (And of course Google has also been providing many pictures from the Google Art Project, yet some rather frame them as our biggest enemy.) I'm not sure whether it would be compatible with WP:AGF, but maybe we should get a guideline for favoring non-scam over scam as soon as possible. See also Wikipedia talk:Google Books and Wikipedia Eissink (talk) 23:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codd%27s_12_rules
Thats actually wrong- Its CJ Dates 12 3 C. J. Date, “Twelve rules for a distributed database,” Computerworld 2(23), June 8, 1987, pp. 77–81. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.93.124.23 (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP user. Thank you for wanting to help improve Wikipedia. The best place to discuss such improvements is on the article's talk page, Talk:Codd's 12 rules. I notice that the article has a tag pointing out that it depends too much on primary sources, and would ideally be rewritten to cite and depend on secondary source (about Codd and his rules, rather than by him and his associates). I don't know if the Date paper you are suggesting is such a secondary source? If so, a citation would be welcome in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

inaccurate place of birth in article "RON CANADA"
I am Ron Canada. People should not be mislead in your articles. I have never set foot in Corpus Christi Texas let alone been born there. Birth records of New York City in 1949 will show that an 8lb, 3 oz. baby boy RONALD ELLIS CANADA was born at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital at 7:20 p.m. The boy's parents were: Thearon Canada father and Etta Beatrice Canada, residents of Harlem N.Y.C.. Verifiable confirmable facts. My reps of more than 30 years are listed on imdbpro (a source listed for this article). They can be contacted and asked this question. Verifiable facts. New York native. Not from Texas, Liberia, Baltimore or Jamaica all birthplaces that have been edited into this article in the past. Real name, as cited above. Not a stage name. if someone will correct this untruth the article will be accurate in all respects.2604:2000:1303:D23D:D46A:472:7FA2:9EF1 (talk) 21:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I changed the birthplace in the Ron Canada infobox based on this []. Hopefully someone else can find a more reliable source. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  21:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)