Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 May 14

= May 14 =

Change dates and some prayers time
Ramadan dates not correct because indicates one day ahead please help us and edit Some prayers time not corresponding to place of stay like me am in Uganda Kampala thus allows me to use settings and change time thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.84.3.58 (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Help desk! If you are asking for help changing an article (e.g. Ramadan), please post your request on the article talk page (e.g. Talk:Ramadan).  If your request is not about an article, could you please be more specific?  Thanks!   GoingBatty (talk) 04:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Bear in mind that the date will depend on the geographical location. This is clearly detailed in the infobox at Ramadan.--Shantavira|feed me 10:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How to delete templates?
I am not sure how to delete templates. Can somebody help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRandomWikipedian (talk • contribs) 03:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Templates for discussion * Pppery * it has begun... 04:00, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Which template do you want to delete and why? New users usually don't think about deleting templates as we understand it. Maybe you are thinking of another meaning like removing a template from an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Is it OK to copy from TALK to Article? The Rise of David Levinsky
While the author of the present article's chapters 1-9 has done what he described he'd do in Talk/2006, Chapters 10-14 are just sitting dormant, but at least some text, in TALK. Is it OK to just copy to the main article, and if so, how do you suggest crediting him? Pi314m (talk) 05:50, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , You can simply say "Copied from talk page from user: so and and so, see talk page for attribution". Although taking a look, a chapter by chapter summary seems a bit excessive... CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 06:26, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes it's OK. Every addition to Wikipedia, to any page including talk pages, is contributed under the CC-BY-SA copyright license. It is one type of Copying within Wikipedia, so you must say where it came from in your edit summary or on the article's talk page to comply with the "attribution" requirement of the copyright license. Of course, the stuff you move into the article must still adhere to all the same guidelines (reliable sources, BLP policy, etc.) as stuff you type in yourself. -Arch dude (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Spam filtre now blocks me from contributing to the COVID-19 article
In the last few weeks, I've tried to improve COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, and discuss any edits which are disputed by others. There is a massive pro-England bias on this article. It ignored the fact that there are 4 governments in the UK, that B Johnson usually speaks only for England, that there are 4 NHS entities, not one, and that there are 4 Public Health bodies, one for each country. Today, I'm unable to edit ('spam filtre'); id 'discretionary sanctions' have been used by one of the editors, then I would like to know by who and why. I have 6,103 edits, and never come accross this type of behaviour before. John Jones (talk) 07:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I'm missing it but I cannot locate any edits of yours that have involved a filter (not "filtre"?). See empty list. Can you see the problem anywhere such as a history or talk page? By the way, I saw this edit. It's not "bias" for that image to have a short caption saying that people were wearing masks on a certain date; it's not saying everyone was wearing them (that would be surprising). Also, "the wearing of masks were not made compulsory" is not right: it should be "was not". Johnuniq (talk) 07:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I ask for help, and chastised for my spelling! Thanks Johnuniq! Talk page also inaccessible. I was able to undo one edito's contribution however. John Jones (talk) 08:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You weren't chastised for your spelling: Johnuniq tactfully pointed out that your spelling was unconventional, that's all. Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom may have temporarily been inaccessible, just as any page in Wikipedia may be. However, it is not protected or semi-protected, and never has been. If you're trying to add a reference to website that's in the spam blacklist, then you won't be able to do so: that's what the spam blacklist is for. (You may of course argue that a website should not be on the spam blacklist.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I only questioned the spelling in "('spam filtre'); id 'discretionary sanctions'" because I wasn't able to find any mention of a filter action. If you see the message again, please copy some of it to make it easier to identify what is going on. Johnuniq (talk) 10:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I see the filter that you seem to be referring to. Adding links to petition sites are generally disallowed, for everyone. See, e.g. the discussion here as to why. There doesn't seem to be anything else that would prevent you from editing. Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks all. Yes, there is a ref here to the UK Government webist! It's petition . parliament.uk / petitions / 301461! Interesting that we label a UK government as 'spam'! ;') I deleted the reference, and it has worked. Thanks again! John Jones (talk) 10:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft
how to make draft text — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chang Eugene (talk • contribs) 09:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * , see Help:Userspace draft. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * If you are trying to ask how to create a draft article, you will find advice at WP:Your first article, but you need to understand how Wikipedia works and gain experience at editing existing articles before you try to write one from square one. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:38, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How to increase font for certain election box templates
For some reason the font/text in the “Template:Election Box” is bigger when it’s a basic template (e.g., "Election box begin"). When the template changes to "Election box begin no change" then the font/text gets smaller. Why does it get smaller? And is there any way to increase the font when using "Election box begin no change"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:98A:200:CE30:9DE2:404D:91BC:BD67 (talk) 12:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

HMS Maidstone
HMS maidstone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.225.58.49 (talk) 13:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Which one and what about her? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If you have a comment, concern, or suggestion about an article (e.g. HMS Maidstone (1937)), you can discuss it on the article talk page (e.g. Talk:HMS Maidstone (1937)). GoingBatty (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Indian Claims Commission errors
In the 1970s I edited the publication of The Records of the Indian Claims Commission on microfiche and in two books. I worked closely with the Commission. I have not had any financial interest in the publications since 1987. The current article is horrendous--full of bizarre comments and omitting most of the actual facts. For instance: "The Indian Claims Commission was a judicial relations arbiter.... The commission was conceived as way to thank Native Americans for their unprecedented service in World War II."

What in the world is a 'judicial relations arbiter'? The Commission functioned as a court, hearing claims. The legislative history, which I also published, begins in 1929 with the introduction of the legislation in Congress.

I have prepared a completely new article that I tried unsuccessfully to post. Can you help me with this?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Norman20c (talk • contribs) 14:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, thank you for your attempts to improve Wikipedia. However, your edits have raised copyright concerns (among other things). Please see the page User talk:Norman20c. has detailed the issues with your edits and provided many links to help you. Best  ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  14:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello . Some of what you want may be possible, I'm ignorant of the topic. However, is any of the above copypasted from other sources? If so, it can not be included on WP but must be removed. You may be able to find interested editors here, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * See the right side of this page, which quotes it from: . —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 06:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

A part of the song (for music theory and idea illustration)
Sorry for my English. I saw some articles about songs where a short part of the song can be played. There is an article about song New Rules by Dua Lipa and there is a section Composition and release. Song is very influencive and interesting from music theory view, and three rules are in this section. There are lyrics description in this section. Can you add a short part with these lyrics to play for readers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.76.69.97 (talk) 17:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Juliette Han (talk) 17:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see Manual of Style/Music samples for more information on using music samples in articles. Apparently Juliette is adding the sample you requested, but in the future, that article could prove helpful. Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  17:49, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ See New Rules. Juliette Han (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * FYI: I reduced the quality a bit in complying with the linked MOS. --MrClog (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I make a table of contents go to a certain page?
How do I make the "0-9" section of the tables of contents at User:Jax 0677/Templates for Creation (A) go to User:Jax 0677/Templates for Creation, or a page of my choosing? Please ping me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * with a normal hyphen in the parameter name, not an en dash. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

BLP in cases of "ruled dead in absentia"
Does WP:BLP apply to an article if the subject is a missing person who has been declared dead in absentia by a U.S. court judgment? This question has cropped up with the newly-created article Kim Dong-shik. Muzilon (talk) 20:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * the first footnote on the WP:BLP page says: People are presumed to be living unless there is reason to believe otherwise. This policy does not apply to people declared dead in absentia. Therefore I would assume that with the article you're referring to, the BLP policy doesn't apply.  Seagull123  Φ  23:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Pinging, for the record. Muzilon (talk) 04:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

kukri or khukuri
The kukri or khukuri (Nepali: खुकुरी khukuri) is a knife, originating from the Indian subcontinent, associated with the Nepali speaking Gurkhas of Nepal and India.

this sentence is not correct as it didnt originate from an indian subcontinent. It came to view of the nation from gurkha an nepali state at the pre war ages. The gurkhas were also orginated from there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.60.85.226 (talk) 21:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * If you have a suggestion for the article Kukri, please make it within the article's talk page: Talk:Kukri. -- Hoary (talk) 22:01, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * , the Indian subcontinent is defined geographically, not according to current (or past) political boundaries. The area of the (current) country Nepal is, by definition, part of the Indian subcontinent, which is often referred to just as "the Subcontinent" to avoid such geopolitical confusions. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.24.23 (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Added info re sexual orientation ... it was deleted.
The reasoning was irrational. This information adds to our knowledge of a key individual in our virus response. Hiding this information is detrimental to our understanding of this serious current issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.0.191.14 (talk) 23:03, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The main reason it was removed is because it was an unsourced addition to a biography of a living person; see the BLP policy. I also don't see how his being gay is pertinent to his work, but in any event, if it is to be included, it needs to be sourced to a reliable source. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Temporary page protection requested. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  23:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I've given it a month-long partial immunity to the obsessions of anonymous contributors to Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 23:38, 14 May 2020 (UTC)