Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 May 24

= May 24 =

Question re interwiki linking
Hi. I am trying to learn about linking to other wikis. I seem to be going a bit in circles. I did find this page: Help:Interwiki linking, I still have some questions though.


 * If I want to link to the Spanish-language Wikipedia, I do understand that the prefix to do so is this prefix: . however, I want to find out if there is a list somewhere of the prefixes that would be used for each wikipedia in a different language. could you please tell me if such a list exists?

Please ping me when you reply. thanks.

--Sm8900 (talk) 02:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * See List_of_Wikipedias —  Meters (talk) 02:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * oh! well, that does seem to answer that question very helpfully. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:25, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note the difference, though, between  and  . The one without the leading colon is invisible on the page and was used to indicate that the current page is the enwiki article about the same subject of the specified eswiki page (e.g.   used to be on our enwiki page Christopher Columbus), but is generally deprecated, with that functionality having been migrated to Wikidata. The latter type,  the leading colon, is used to create a wikilink that points to any page on another wiki (like es:Cristóbal Colón). The template  is used for a creating this second kind of wikilink that points to an article (or a redlink) both on enwiki and articles on other language wikis (see the doc for examples). —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 08:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for that data! that is good to know. I did take a look at the guidelines for Interlanguage link; I did not know about that template before this. that sounds highly useful.


 * Re the differences between the links with a leading colon and without, that is highly interesting. I think that sounds comparable to how we use the same format for categories; i.e. the leading colon makes it a link to the category itself, without making any modification to the page where that link is located, while using the link without the leading colon is a way to make a change to the page itself, i.e. to place it in a category. so this is all highly useful, to increasing my own knowledge of this. feel free to add any details, if you wish. thanks!!--Sm8900 (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Sm8900, the same colon trick works for displaying a picture versus linking to that picture, or more precisely to the Wikipedia page for, and displaying, that picture . -- Hoary (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * hi Hoary. that is very interesting, and good to know. thanks!!! by the way, here is another question, below.


 * could anyone please tell me the prefix to use for linking to the "Simple English" Wikipedia? thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It's simple:. Meters gave you a link to a list in the first answer to your original question, and a list is also available at meta:List of Wikipedias. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

it's "simple" as in simple:United Kingdom. It's also the same as the first part of the URL for each wiki. Ill is of a benefit, as it produces a REDLINK, but displays that there is an article on the subject in another language. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * okay, that is very helpful. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 12:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Deceased wikipedians
How does wikipedia know their editor has died? I saw so many pages with candles on it, indicating there are dead. Inactive accounts will automatically mark as dead? Do they contact their families of editors? Ram nareshji (talk) 02:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Usually the families or friends contact us. Some are personally known by other editors. Rarely they are well-known enough to appear in traditional news media. Rmhermen (talk) 04:28, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:DWG may be of interest.  bibliomaniac 1  5  04:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

question re odd wikimedia site
hi. i just found this site:


 * https://en.planet.wikimedia.org/index.html

could you please tell what this is? I've been looking up various resources tonight, and have gotten a bit fatigued from all my efforts, so any digging around to figure out the scope or purpose of this specific site, feels a little too abstruse for me, right now. please ping me when you reply. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It appears to be a blog aggregation site: "Planet Wikimedia is made from the blogs by Wikimedia contributors. The opinions it contains are those of the contributor. ". RudolfRed (talk) 03:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * See meta:Planet Wikimedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

John Proctor
Hello,

I am a historian and I have done extensive research on the Salem Witch Trials, and on John Proctor in particular. I have tried to add vital information to your site several times and it is always removed. John Proctor was objectively the sexiest DILF in all of Salem in 1692. All of the Goodies wanted his goodies. He was bangin and slangin.' His children weren't the only ones calling him "Daddy."

I have attached a reputable source. Please stop deleting my edits. You can't run from the truth, Wikipedia.

- Abby Williams Historian The University of the West Indies at Cave Hill, Barbados

THIS IS A REPUTABLE SOURCE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.29.57.226 (talk) 03:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Convenience link: John Proctor (Salem witch trials).  Maproom (talk) 06:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * For the reference of other users who might be tempted to take any of the above seriously, see "Abby Williams" and the IP User's link which is, at least, apparently harmless. Thanks to and  for dealing with this at the article. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.198 (talk) 07:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Copyright violation?
A bot has flagged an image I uploaded as a potential copyright violation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peter_Carey_-_Cambridge_2018.jpg

The Flickr user has it under a Creative Commons license and specifies that it's fine for it to be reused as long as he's credited, which I did so in the image description. Where did I go wrong here? Dr-ziego (talk) 10:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, . The licence on Flicker is by-nc-nd, which prohibits derivative works and commercial purposes. That is not compatible with Wikimedia commons, which requires WP:CC-BY-SA. --ColinFine (talk) 10:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks - I'll remove it. Out of curiosity, why does Wikipedia not qualify for that license, when it's not commercial and the image isn't modified? Dr-ziego (talk) 03:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * because we want to be the free encyclopedia, and not the kind-of-free-but-not-really encyclopedia. While we ourselves might not modify or commercialize the image, we want our re-users to be able to do anything they like, including that. We use the definition of free cultural works to define what free means. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 04:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I have a new appreciation of why so many celebrities have rather unflattering amateur flash photos taken at panels and red carpets as their Wikipedia photo! Dr-ziego (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , lol, yes, that's exactly it. I often contact subjects who have public emails to see if they'll upload a photo they like. I've had quite a bit of success with the type of person I write about, who are generally C-listers and below. :) —valereee (talk) 12:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The comments above are good. I will just add that Wikimedia Commons does sometimes modify images, to crop them, blur certain parts of them, form collages, etc. Or other people can make these modifications and Commons can then decide to use the modified images. I don’t know if this happens directly on other projects, but of course, the other projects make extensive use of Commons media. Brianjd (talk) 07:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaurav Khanna (badminton)
I was created article Gaurav Khanna (badminton). As there is already one Gaurav Khanna. How I can rename the article and put a note that for actor redirect to his article. Also help me to increase the content.Sukant Kadam (talk) 10:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, . You should not Move the existing article without a consensus that there is not a PRIMARYTOPIC: I suggest discussing it on Talk:Gaurav Khanna. In the meantime, you can use a Hatnote on each article. --ColinFine (talk) 10:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
I followed the format for inserting an external link,

Link label

but it was flagged as an error. What was wrong?

RECKLESS_RAMBLERS

Kermit Rose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kermit1941 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You also added a set of empty  tags under the link, which was causing the error. I have removed them.  GoingBatty (talk) 20:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking for a hatnote name template
I'm currently editing an article, Ayyathan Gopalan, where I am beginning to suspect that Ayyathan is the subject's family name. I want to put a hatnote saying "The subject's family name is Ayyathan" and I could have sworn some articles (particularly East Asian ones) had a template that did something similar. I've tried looking for templates like lastname and last name first through search to no avail. Anyone know the template that calls for that? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  22:11, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It may be worth looking to see whether Category:Hatnote templates for names has anything relevant. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:58, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the link. Indian name seems to be what I'm looking for. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 )  00:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)