Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 May 29

= May 29 =

Ref Desk Science Table of Contents is hidden
At Reference_desk/Science, the table of contents is somehow inside the collapsed section. How to get it to appear above that section? RudolfRed (talk) 00:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * by adding  where the table of contents should be. Brianjd (talk) 00:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Article Posted
How long does it take for my article to be confirm and posted?q — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuck901 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Article drafts in your User-space, in this case at User:Tuck901/sandbox, are not reviewed for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Your User-space is not 'monitored'.  There are a couple of paths forward for the article you've composed.  One is to migrate it into article space (I'm not sure of the formal process for this, but as an Admin, I can do this); however, I guarantee that the article in it's current form will be tagged for deletion quickly.  The primary reason for deletion?  I'm thinking that you are the "Tuck" who is the subject of the article.  It is NOT acceptable for people to write articles about themselves for inclusion in the encyclopedia.  What are the ways that people can get articles about themselves into Wikipedia?  That is a good question, which I've not considered before.  Personally, I think the best route is via Wikipedia:Requested articles.  It can be years to never for an article to be created from the lists associated with this article, but if you add your bio as a requested article, provide a brief statement of the article content, add reliable sources to support the article and include a link to your draft in your user space, it will be considered for inclusion in the fullness of time.  One thing to remember about wikipedia is that "there is no rush" - this is an encyclopedia, not a breaking news site.  If reliable sources emerge over the years (yes, years), you can add those to the requested articles entry as they emerge.  There are many many many people who feel that they should be represented in Wikpedia.  It is not up to the individual to decide this, but to the editing collective abiding by the policies and norms of the encyclopedia.  Thanks for trusting to the community. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 04:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please do not try to move the article to main space in its current state. As Ceyockey said, it will just be deleted. You are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. If someone else writes such an article the very first requirement is to establish notability. We can fix any other problem. We cannot fix (lack of) notability: see WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 05:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

How can I publish my wiki article to the public wiki? Neil Patel - Dentist
How can I publish my wiki article to the public wiki? Neil Patel - Dentist

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themolarmechanic (talk • contribs) 06:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I presume that you mean User:Themolarmechanic/sandbox. Well, you have to (i) remove the promotional tone ("This DSO is poised to shake up the $140 billion dollar US dental industry", etc, phrasing I expect to find in the messages that go straight into my spam folder), (ii) make sure that every assertion is backed up reliable, independent, published sources (of course "independent" means "neither written nor paid for by Patel, or by friend, employee, family member, classmate, etc"), and (iii) show that Patel meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Since he is, you say, still a student, it's unlikely that he does. Better let him wait for a few years. -- Hoary (talk) 07:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Bogus draft help
Hey there. So basically, I've found a user who has recently been making a bunch of fictional drafts/drafts for things that would probably never be accepted into mainspace (a transcript for an episode of a cartoon, of which the episode in question is barely notable whatsoever). In terms of 'fictional', some of the drafts of are episodes 'they' created because they will 'be a producer when they grow up' - 100% WP:FANCRUFT. Plenty, if not, all of the drafts in question can most likely be deleted. Is there a certain way to get these drafts quickly/easily deleted, or should I go straight to the Administrator noticeboard and explain the issue there and give links to the drafts in question?

I know of the whole Criteria for speedy deletion area- but I'm honestly not the best with nominating things for deletion. If that is the best route, I'm pretty sure G3 would apply to the fictional/fan-made drafts, so would I just add to the tops of those drafts and wait for them to be deleted? Also not sure what those transcript drafts would fall under, but I would assume WP:PLOT since Wikipedia is not the place to post the full transcript/script of an episode, which would be more appropriate for a fan-run Wiki.

One of the mainspace articles they had previously created was taken down after I had proposed it for deletion (was using Twinkle, I believe I was meaning to use 'XFD', but accidentally went on with 'PROD' instead).

Thanks in advance. Magitroopa (talk) 07:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Links to other languages
I tried to link de:Japanischer Staudenknöterich to en:Reynoutria japonica but did not succeed. How should I do this? I like to use Wikipedia in several languages to find the correct translations of very special or scientific terms. Peter Michor 09:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwm86 (talk • contribs)
 * Wikidata merge failure reported at wikidata:MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Merge.js. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchy
why have the femenists hijacked half the page with their nonsense? thought this page was about men and their autocratic society? surely the feminist nonsense should be on the feminist page/portal/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.88.144 (talk) 10:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello. The place to discuss this is Talk:Patriarchy. But I recommend that you read that talk page and its archives before you post there. --ColinFine (talk) 12:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Inquiry
How can I add biography documents on myself on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayodunmoye (talk • contribs) 11:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Writing an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. Brianjd (talk) 12:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect edit
Hi

I've just edited something I know was incorrect and immediately Pablomartinez edited it back to how it was. I cannot seem to get back to him to ask him his reasons and to stop him doing this again. I know my information is correct as it is about my uncle and I want the facts on here to reflect exactly who he was.

The entry I'm trying to edit is for Dennis Herbert Cochran. His real name was Dennis Herbert Cockram, son of Edith Grace Lilian and Herbert William Cockram. Once he enlisted into the RAF his name was mistranscribed as Cochran and as he didn't correct them then, this was how he was known in the RAF from this point. I was trying to change his name until this point to show the real Dennis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GillOwen16 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The correct place to discuss this is at Talk:Dennis Cochran. The name of the article needs to be decided by consensus, guided by reliable sources. Brianjd (talk) 13:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add the information about the name change again, but this time cite a reliable source for that information; but if your edits are reverted despite the citation, do not repeat them without gaining consensus; definitely do not change the name throughout the article without getting a consensus on its talk page. Brianjd (talk) 13:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The trouble is,, that you didn't give any sources. I haven't got access to any of the sources in the current example, but I'm guessing that they all refer to him as Cochran. In order to change that, you need a reliable published source|: Wikipedia works entirely on published sources; personal knowledge isn't accepted unless it is corroborated by a published source: see verifiability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColinFine (talk • contribs) 13:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is a bit strange and needs some getting used to. We are crowdsourced, with over ten million anonymous editors over the last two decades and over 100,000 editors over the last 30 days. We have no capability to authenticate editors' identity or veracity, and no desire to do so as it would be a logistical nightmare. Instead, we require that all facts added to Wikipedia be verifiable (WP:V) by citation to reliable sources. This is extremely frustrating when you know that the sources are wrong, but it's all we've got. I hope you can find such a source so we can mention it in the article. -Arch dude (talk) 16:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

template for editing talk page archives?
Is there a Twinkle template for editing talk page archives? I'm sure I've seen one before, but couldn't find it just now. Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, How can I ask someone to review the article I have submitted to wikipedia
Hi, can someone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsanupkumar (talk • contribs) 14:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You already asked all of the interested "someones". Your article is in the list to be reviewed. Each Wikipedia editor is a volunteer and each of us does whatever tasks they want to do. Some editors like to do reviews. They grab articles from that list. -Arch dude (talk) 15:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually no one is likely to be interested after this edit, where you removed a COI tag, records of AfC declines and other important templates. Brianjd (talk) 15:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have restored all the declinature / COI / rejection / autobio. etc. notices. Eagleash (talk) 15:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Just going to sneak in here and also plop down WP:AUTO, where writing about yourself is strongly discouraged. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  22:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hya I've received a message from Luk3 saying I edited something....
Hya I've received a message from Luk3 saying I edited something....

Only, I don't edit wikipedia, and this is not a shared IP address.

I don't know what has happened, I'm being accused of things I have no connection with, and would like this resolved.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.233.62.163 (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The edits from your IP address are listed at Special:Contributions/80.233.62.163. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * According to WHOIS, you are using a shared IP address . Is there a reason you think otherwise? If this concerns you, you can create a Wikipedia account. That is more anonymous than not logging in (e.g., I see you are using an Irish 3G network), and it removes this sort of annoyance. -Arch dude (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I have previously set up 2 factor authentication; now I have a new device and don't know what to do
The part I don't understand is how to get a QR code to scan with the authenticator app on my new device. Please don't just link me to a help article; I've read those and I'm stuck. ike9898 (talk) 19:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I suggest emailing info-enwikimedia.org, per WP:2FA. RudolfRed (talk) 23:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox logo
How can I fix this white logo on white background issue on Square Pharmaceuticals? is there any way to change the background of an infobox? - RRRW (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You'd have to upload an image with a background . Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Or, you could just remove transparency from the existing image and give it a suitable background colour instead. Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Received spam from company claiming to edit wikipedia for money
Hello,

I have received the following spam from a company offering to create and maintain ("moderate") a webpage about you on Wikipedia, for money. I guess this goes against Wikipedia's rules, do I mistake? Any way to fight against such practice?

Dear [...], Have you ever wondered of having a Wikipedia page for yourself or your company? We can help you get a Wikipedia page for yourself or your brand.

Why have a Wikipedia page?

Google loves Wikipedia and as such ranks it high in search results. Wikipedia is also the first place people go when they Google your name. By leveraging Wikipedia, you can help control your Online Profile and present yourself to the world. Usually Wikipedia only accepts pages on celebrities and famous companies, if you are looking to get one for yourself, we can help you with that. Having a page for yourself in Wikipedia, brings you more credibility and makes you more famous.

We have been editing on Wikipedia for 9+ years and We've created tons of pages for companies, people, brands, products, and of course for academic purposes as well.

We own multiple accounts on Wikipedia with page curation and new page reviewer rights, so we can create and moderate pages with almost zero risk of another mod taking it down.

There are few Wikipedia editors who are willing to create a page for money, and most of them are scared to offer this service directly, so they do it through their trusted sellers who mark up the price to $1500 - $2500 per page.

Because you're buying directly from an experienced Wikipedia editor and mod, you'll get your page a lot cheaper, faster and with more reliability.

Let me know if you are interested

Regards

Stella Richards

Unsubscribe: http://bookofsciences.com/bla (I added /bla to prevent linking to that server, as I've realized that all mail addresses of people who unsubscribed are actually collected in a file there, freely accessible) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomWandererToo (talk • contribs) 21:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There isn't much you can do about the email(other than delete it). If an administrator is editing for pay and not disclosed it per the terms of WP:PAID, that would be a serious breach of policy.  331dot (talk) 21:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The section above has a similar question.  's response there was "This may be what is described at Articles for creation/Scam warning. That page asks you to forward any 'scam' emails you received to arbcom-en@wikimedia.org. Please see that page for more information."  GoingBatty (talk) 21:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information, I have forwarded the email as indicated.
 * I would draw you attention to the statement that reveals that "you're buying directly from an experienced Wikipedia editor and mod" whose experience doesn't extend to the fact that Wikipedia doesn't have moderators. Caveat Emptor. Britmax (talk) 19:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with splitting and merging article
Please take a look at what I have done in splitting part of Pedal steel guitar and moving it to the parent article Steel guitar. I do not know how to do a history merge, so I just copied and did not delete the section "History and evolution" so it could be undone if I made a mistake (its a copy-and-paste, not a cut-and-paste). I put my proposal on the talk page for a couple of weeks and had no response, so I made the move. I am the principal author of this section anyway, so I'm moving my own words. Please advise. Regards, Eagledj (talk) 22:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don’t know whether a history merge is appropriate here, but if so, it requires administrator intervention. See Requests for history merge. Brianjd (talk) 06:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You cannot separate out a page history for a specific section which was edited between edits to other parts of the page. You did the right thing [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steel_guitar&diff=959654562&oldid=959652717 here] except you should have linked Pedal steel guitar and used the exact page name with lowercase s in "steel". Wikilinks work in edit summaries. Also link Steel guitar in the edit summary when you remove the section from Pedal steel guitar. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)