Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 September 6

= September 6 =

How to add Company Information to Wikipedia?
Hello,

I want to know how to submit information of my Company and Products to Wikipedia? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Softsolspk (talk • contribs) 08:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * First, let me explain what Wikipedia is: a volunteer-driven summary of professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Not an advertising service.
 * Your username violates our policy on usernames, as it is the name of a company. There's a variety of problems with your account that you must fix before trying to do anything else (or else you will be blocked for violating our terms of use). Ian.thomson (talk) 09:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Bulgarians are not Turkic
Bulgarians are not Turkic. Bulgarians are the old local population called also in the past "Thracians" (Edoni, Kekoni, Sarmati, Misi, Geti, Mirmidoni, etc.). There are many ancient documents about that, and also in addition, there was a DNA test that proves 40% of the DNA that today's Bulgarians are having is same as Thracian rulers, that are found on our lands. And the most close nationalities to us are Macedonians, Romanians and people from North Italy regions. On of the Byzantium history writers mentions that: "Asparukh (the "creator" of Bulgaria in 681) came with hundreds of thousands of Bulgarians and others, to TAKE BACK the lands, that he owns by his father's and born right!". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.70.119.40 (talk) 10:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * You don't say which article(s) you're writing about. For any article that's affected, please make your case on its talk page, of course specifying reliable, published sources for what you claim. To find an article's talk page, look within it for a link labelled "Talk". Click that, and start a new thread at the foot of the talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 11:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Search
I am curious how the search function works. I typed in the name of the third-place horse (Mr. Big News) in the 2020 Kentucky Derby. None of the hits took me to anything about this horse. Why didn't the 2020 Kentucky Derby come up as a hit? Kdammers (talk) 12:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I typed Mr Big News into the search box and hit "Go", the 2020 Kentucky Derby was the fifth result. DuncanHill (talk) 12:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Table Editing. Centering Text
I've looked "everywhere"... how does one center text in any of a table's cell, a column, a row or even the entire table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudolf.Fernandes (talk • contribs) 12:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You'll see some advice at m:Template talk:Table demo, and also in Help:Table. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Question on how to improve Jonas S. Chartock
Hello 👋. While patrolling recent changes, I ran into the Jonas S. Chartock article. Which appears to read like a resume, and had a number of external links that seamed to be promotional. I tried to clean up the page a little. My question is three-fold:


 * 1) Do you have any feedback on the changes that I made?
 * 2) What are some things I can do to further improve the article?
 * 3) Is this article even noteworthy enough to justify existence?

Some thoughts I had:
 * The Music section seams mostly irrelevant as it reference bands that are themselves don't have their own articles and are probably not noteworthy enough to merit an article.
 * I'd probably say the same for the acting section also seams irrelevant because although many of the films are on IMDb, they are not high budget films/series/shorts and are probably also not noteworthy enough for an article.
 * There are a lot of awards listed in the "career in education service," I'm not sure they belong in the article either because the awards themselves aren't from notable sources.

I realise that this discussion should ultimately be in the articles talk page, but as a relatively new editor, I was hoping to get some general guidance first.

motevets (talk) 18:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * When I read "Jonas S. Chartock ... is a social impact entrepreneur", I automatically translate it as "self-promoting bullshitter". So I am an unsuitable person to make impartial comments. But your removal of direct external links is clearly supported by Wikipedia policy. Maproom (talk) 22:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Motevets, your changes seem fine, but I would suggest reviewing its notability before doing further work. The article was nominated for speedy deletion on 4 September by an IPA on the grounds that it wasn't notable, which failed as the reason wasn't on the list of speedy deletion criteria. If it is not notable it could be deleted via proposed deletion or articles for deletion nomination. TSventon (talk) 00:54, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you Maproom and TSventon for the feedback and suggestions. I proposed the deletion of the article with WP:PROD. motevets (talk) 20:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Template trouble
Hello, I created the template Template: Brass instruments and somehow also created the template Template: Brass Instruments. Now they seem to be broken. I thought titles weren't case sensitive like that. Now on pages, like Flumpet it shows the template incorrectly (see how Bore is red-linked on that page). Can anybody help me remedy this? | Why? I Ask (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , "Bore" appears to be fixed now. Only the first character is always capitalised, even if it is linked using a lowercase character; everything past that is case-sensitive. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  20:02, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * , are you sure? On the template itself it's fixed but on the actual pages (i.e. Flumpet) it's wrong. Also, If I type in Template:mUsiCal InstrUMENts it still leads me to Template:Musical instruments but it's not the same case for my predicament; they link to two different pages. Another question, why does it go Template: Brass Instruments → "V" (View this template) → Template: Brass instruments? - Why? I Ask (talk) 20:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , have you tried purging the page? I clicked on "Bore" in the template in Flumpet and it brings me to Bore (wind instruments); I'm assuming that is the intended destination. Text in the search field is less case-sensitive, but page titles are; see WP:NCCPT for more information. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  20:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note, too, that if you type something in the search box at the top right of the page, and it results in only a single search result, it takes you directly to that page, even if what you typed is not an exact match (this may be configurable IIRC, but it works that way for me). If I type Template:MaTtEl in the search box, it goes directly to the navbox template; however,  is a redlink and transcludes an error. —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 22:13, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * , I added some screenshots (I hope that is fine). See how on the actual page, the template isn't right? (Bore not linked, Flumpet missing). But in the editor (I used visual) it loads correctly. I wanna know why that's happening. I have replaced it over and over but no dice.

I see the Bore redlink in the first screenshot. It doesn't happen for me here. Questions/ideas: —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 08:59, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If you click on the Bore link, what happens? What address is shown in the resulting window's address bar and what's in the title bar at the very top of the browser window?
 * Have you cleared your cache (- on most browsers)?
 * What browser are you using? Can you try a different one?
 * If you bring up a private/incognito browser window and go to the Frumpet page (as an anonymous non-logged-in user), is the link still red?
 * Unrelated, the Cornu, Helicon, Mouthpiece, and Falset items all point to disambiguation pages (i.e., they need to be pointed to the correct pages, e.g.,  →  ).
 * Reply to by user: Why? I Ask


 * Bore (wind instrument) instead of Bore (wind instruments); I originally put it wrong when I first made the template and later corrected it * Yes, I have as well as browser history (restarted computer as well)
 * Latest stable version of Google Chrome
 * Logging out seems to work and show it correctly but why would it not work if I'm logged in?
 * Thank you for pointing that out; I'm refraining from making any edits to the template though in case it messes something up further Why? I Ask (talk) 09:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you clear your cache (-)? Also try clicking here to purge the server-side rendered page cache (and then clear your local cache again). —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 09:49, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Alright, purging it seems to have worked. Thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated. One last question; do you know why I had to purge this particular page to see it load correctly and not any of the other ones that use the template? Why? I Ask (talk) 10:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no. It odd. —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 10:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Dick Traum, incorrect information, how to edit.?
Should read “he retired in 2019” Not he was ousted

Question, can we find out who entered this recent incorrect information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:E042:3B00:95F1:3B97:28FF:2F0C (talk) 20:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * If you go to the page's "history" (top right) and search through the changes you can find that it was user:2601:600:8780:5db0:48a7:6d81:5176:e254. Why? I Ask (talk) 20:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi IP, here is the IP who made the changes: 2601:600:8780:5DB0:48A7:6D81:5176:E254. As it is an IP, you can take a look at where it is located and see other information by using the links at the bottom on the page, such as "WHOIS" and "Geolocate". As for the page, anyone can edit Wikipedia, so you can click "edit" and change this information yourself. Many thanks, Ed   talk!  20:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

But you should have a reference from a reliable source as should the person who put it in.Spinney Hill (talk) 08:24, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help creating template
I'm trying to create a template for CBC Radio programs at Template:CBC Radio Programs (current and upcoming) but I've malformed the template somehow and don't know how to fix it. Can someone please help? Thanks Sowny (talk) 23:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I fixed it . Does that look right? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  23:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! Thanks! Sowny (talk) 23:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just one more thing - when I put the template in an article such as As It Happens there's a gap between it and the next template rather than the two templates stacking nicely on top of each other. How can that be fixed? Thanks. Sowny (talk) 23:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not sure what you mean. I'm looking at the page and the two are collapsed on top of each other with no gap in between. Would you happen to have been using the VisualEditor? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  00:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I took out a newline with [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ACBC_Radio_Programs_%28current_and_upcoming%29&type=revision&diff=977153624&oldid=977143514 this edit]. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)