Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 April 22

= April 22 =

A problem I have
For a long time now,I've been able to look things up on this website on my flip phone. Yesterday morning,it got a lot harder. I got an invalid certificate warning which made it impossible for me to change to Desktop mode there or sometimes to even get onto the site itself. Why is this happening? I did a number of things to try to get back on to the site but with little luck. Can someone please tell me why this is happening and what I can do to fix this problem? I need some help and I hope it comes soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.138.17 (talk) 00:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello User with the IP 68.2.138.17, as of now, certificates seem to be working again. When the error occurs the next time, would you please copy the exact reason of why your browser thinks the certificate is invalid? It helps us detecting the offender. Victor Schmidt (talk) 04:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't know why it's doing this. The thing that pops up on my flip phone whenever I try to change to Desktop mode says this:"The site you are attempting to access has a non-standard security certificate. Your personal data may not be secured. Click 'Accept certificate' if you consent to send your personal data. Click 'CLR' or 'BACK' button on your device to cancel this request." And,so on. Every time I click on the "Accept certificate" button,it doesn't want to do it. It just stays there. I don't know why it's doing this. Up until a couple of days ago,it never did anything like this. Why is it doing this now? The IP address for my flip phone is 107.167.127.97. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.138.17 (talk) 13:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * That IP address is owned by Opera Software (source), which makes it likely that they're proxying the traffic. The problem is likely either an issue on Opera's end, or your phone seeing Opera's certificate when it's expecting to see Wikipedia's. If you can, try disabling the proxy and see if that works. Vahurzpu (talk) 04:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Well,I've got some good news for you. It's working like it should again. I did it a few times and now it's working fine. I don't know how it happened and I don't really care. It's back to normal again and I'm happy about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.138.17 (talk) 09:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Extra! Extra! Don't read all about it.
I asked here a while back about my application for a subscription to newspapers.com and was told somebody would get back to me. Nobody has. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you apply at https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/26/? If you are unsure then try applying now. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:27, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems I was approved, but was never notified. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:23, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Question about good articles
...how long do they have to be? versacespace leave a message!  01:29, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You can see the criteria here: Good_article_criteria. There is no size requirement apart from it cannot be a stub.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:NORG and Academy of Medical-Surgical Nurses
Hi, I want to nominate Academy of Medical-Surgical Nurses for deletion, but I'm not sure if it fails more specific guidelines– it does have a few citations in google scholar? Please advise. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * theleekycauldron I would suggest nominating it and fully describing the results of your WP:BEFORE search in the nomination. TSventon (talk) 13:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

change username
{DONALDMWAMBURI} {DONALD MWAMBURI}
 * , this is the incorrect venue to do so. Please see Changing username. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:25, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Notability
Hello there, I would like to know if this link passes notability : https://www.business-standard.com/content/specials/digital-takshila-an-online-education-academy-giving-professionals-an-edge-ahead-of-their-peers-121041501248_1.html
 * See the answer at the Teahouse, and please don't post the same question in more than one place. RudolfRed (talk) 15:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

How to create a wiki page
I'd like to have one of my writers create a wiki page for emlovz.com. Do you have a guide on how to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:4200:9B0:6493:6EE0:3E8C:2BC6 (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Generally speaking, this is not something that you should do. The guide you're looking for is probably WP:COI and covers conflict of interests, which seems likely based on your phrasing.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please have a look at What Wikipedia is not, and An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. --ColinFine (talk) 17:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Quick Question
I see IBDB - Internet Broadway Database is not listed in WP:RSP, but my question is. Is it a reliable source?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk • contribs) 16:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The place to ask is the WP:Reliable sources noticeboard. Searching the archives of that, I see that it has been discussed there at least half a dozen times, but I haven't looked at the discussions to see whether there was a concensus or not. I note that, even if it is held to be reliable, it doesn't look as if it has significant coverage of anything, so it will not count towards notability for any subject. --ColinFine (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Right, see for example Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_231. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:29, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Created a new word
Hi, how do i publish or get published a new word that i created? Thank you, Paul C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:4301:2774:5834:5EAC:435E:C96 (talk) 17:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Twitter, Facebook or a blog? Not WP, see WP:FORUM. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Please note that Wikipedia is not for things made up one day.--Shantavira|feed me 17:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Study and practice "memishery" Join the memeistry, my son. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:25, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_of_Fire_(novel_series)
Whenever I try to edit the Wings of Fire page with the addition of the "Forge Your Dragon World" Graphic Novel, it gets deleted within minutes. Could i get an explaination about this subject, thanks.
 * You are trying to insert an unsourced statement. You have not provided any reference to back your claim up. Also, Wikipedia articles aren't written in first-person voice. J I P  &#124; Talk 17:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Abusive changes
My name is Ruthi Engelke. I am David Cobb's wife. I updated his page recently and had it reverted. I updated with current information. Someone, consistently re-edits to previous incorrect information. This is an abusive practice, and I would like this person blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RuthiEng (talk • contribs) 17:51, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'll be blunt. It's not his page, it's WP:s article about David Cobb (activist). While you or he doesn't control it, it's possible you could have influence, the article is in awful shape, from the WP POV. Take the time to read WP:COI, WP:BLP and WP:EDITREQ, and try again at Talk:David Cobb (activist). State what you would like to change, and provide WP:RS that support those changes. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:04, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok. I'll be blunt: It is in awful shape because an abusive individual has for YEARS offered incorrect information. Defamation of character is his goal. I have updated correct information and removed a horrible picture that is meant to make David look unhinged. We have more work to do than argue. It should be simple.


 * It is not simple. See WP:BLP. Well, it's simple to remove everyting that doesn't have decent cite. WP:ISAWIT is not good enough. WP is not your social media. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels
Hello, I'm trying to add a line in the info box on the page of Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels, but it's not allowing me to publish the addition. Can someone guide me through this? I'd like to add a line for the Structural Engineer, to be displayed under the Architecture heading. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmjohn7 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, the infobox is generated by Template: Infobox church where you can see all the available parameters; there does not seem to be one appropriate for a sructural engineer. However, it may be possible to embed an additional infobox (say 'building') which may have an appropriate field. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:04, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * On second thoughts, you could add (after the name of the actual architect) . If you have difficulty ping me here or at the article talk page and I can add it for you. Note; it could be reverted if it cannot be sourced in the body of the article or if it is not considered 'standard practice'. Eagleash (talk) 21:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you so much for your response, I'll try what you suggest and if that doesn't work I'll come back for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmjohn7 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Help with citing enough about a Living Person
I have made this article for a singer, noted all their career so far (they are a well known singer but is young ao they haven't done much yet) and now Wikipedia is asking for more reliable sources to add to the page but how I am supposed to if there aren't many out there?!

New to Wikipedia, would love the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draypowis (talk • contribs) 20:30, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If this singer does not receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources, showing how they meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable singer, they would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 20:33, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

So how many other sources does a living person who is a singer need to qualify for an article? They have Singles out and are writing an album with Atlantic Records
 * Most article reviewers look for at least three sources with significant coverage of the subject. How does this singer meet at least one aspect of the Wikipedia definition of a notable singer? 331dot (talk) 07:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I have 5 reliable sources on the article and one covers more than what I have put on the article, the link to Wikipedia definition of a notable singer isn't making much sense to me because I think I have covered all the points I can. Does the singer have to have a tour or singles listed on the article? Thanks for the help so far — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draypowis (talk • contribs)
 * Which criteria(or multiple criteria) in the notability definition do you assert that this person meets? Looking at your sources, the first is just a simple profile, the second is an announcement of a record deal based on his own twitter posting, the third is just the label's website, the fourth is a Kardashian saying how much she likes him, and the fifth is a link(which goes to a nonexistent page) to what I presume is his agent's website. None of these are significant coverage and I'm not clear on how he is notable. "Up and coming" singers rarely merit articles. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Courtesy link: Jamie Miller. I'd say they are probably not all that far off meeting WP:GNG. You likely just require another in-depth citation discussing the subject. Some of the references are good, but do border on WP:PRIMARY, such as agencies talking about their own talent. Right now, it's just a tag suggesting more citations are needed, not that the article is liable to be deleted.Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Assuming this is the same person, might be a good ref, this is also one of those normal radio times pieces, but still. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)