Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 August 11

= August 11 =

‘3D Touch’ on iPhone improvement suggestion
[iPhone] When 3D Touch is used on a hyperlinked word in a Wikipedia page, the preview for the page should show a representative picture and other small facts about the linked word.
 * The place to make requests for technical improvements is WP:VP. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  00:39, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Protected page
How do I submit a request to turn a page into a protected one, due to high potential for racist abuse in it?
 * WP:Requests for page protection - however, they are not Precrime and will not pre-emptively protect a page based on someone asserting there may potentially be problems. See WP:Protection policy. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 02:51, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Gledhow Hall
Please check re number 2. - it is a PDF and I could not get the publisher. Can you fix please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.3.153.231 (talk • contribs) 11 August 2021 03:46 (UTC)
 * ✅ Eagleash (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Can the black and white pic on this page please be placed on the  left-hand side - thanks - sorry again, I cannot do this. 49.3.153.231 (talk) 04:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That would place an image at the top left of a section which is discouraged by WP:IMGLOC. It would also result in the text being 'sandwiched' between two images, so other re-alignment would also be necessary. One or other, of the images could be left-aligned further down the section if desired. AS you've been asked, possibly 100s of times, before, please do not start multiple sections with the same heading. Eagleash (talk) 04:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * (sorry about forgetting the "multiple section rule") I have done it with another black and white pic/file - so all good  Thanks 49.3.153.231 (talk) 05:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Name change
How can I change article name KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 04:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia, the act of changing an article name is called a "move". See Requested moves for lots of information.  GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

New infobox
How Can I create a new infobox for muslim schlor pls help KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You could try using Infobox religious biography or Infobox academic. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Thanks, I tried but I not Get what I want, so want to create new infobox Thanks KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Need an admin for simple task
The Ubud Writers and Readers Festival needs a redirect from (or possibly even a move to?) Ubud Writers & Readers Festival (its current styling), but that page has been blocked from creation owing to persistent vandalism in the past, apparently. The admin who did it does not appear to have edited anything since 2016, so I'm posting this here in the hope that a passing admin may be able to undo this block so that I can create the redirect page. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I had a look at the target page, and it seems that it was protected in January 2015, over six years ago. The admin who protected it hasn't been active on Wikipedia since December 2016, for over four years. So it looks like the issue is long outdated. Therefore I have unprotected the target page and moved the article. J I P  &#124; Talk 08:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for attending to that, . Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

4 months draft
Please help. I created my first content here 4 months ago and it is still in Draft and pending for review till now. Please enlighten me how to progress with my article and get it published. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LVIT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heimoore77 (talk • contribs) 07:00, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * , afaict, you never submitted the draft for review. You can use the WP:SUBMIT link to to so. The lack of inline citations (see WP:TUTORIAL) is a problem, and you should take a look at WP:LEAD. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * We just completed a drive that cleared out all the existing drafts. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:14, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Submitted drafts, right? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This has already been answered at the Teahouse. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:16, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

How to create a good article?
How do i make a good article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by I.DGamingyoutube (talk • contribs) 10:55, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi I.DGamingyoutube. If you want to make test edits you can use your sandbox, and if you want to create a good article, I recommend you read some guides, such as "Your first article", which goes over our manual of style and the importance of reliable sources. If you have any other questions, I recommend you visit the Teahouse. Isabelle 🔔 11:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Landform infobox
Hi Folks!! Anybody know an ideal infobox for a pensisula that can take a Gaelic name. There is a couple of dozen of these peninsula's in Scoland and its not available. Some of the other land features, seem to take no problem, e.g. on Oban. Its has Scots which I didn't know and Gealic. I'm using it on the Rhu Peninsula article. It is in there, but is not showing. Thanks   scope_creep Talk  11:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking for a long time that infoboxen need to standardize on how they handle non-English names ... For  at Rhu Peninsula:
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Geez, I have used that all the time. Thanks   scope_creep Talk  13:41, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Geez, I have used that all the time. Thanks   scope_creep Talk  13:41, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

The information i add to my own band page gets reverted for no reason.
Hey, this is to let you know that i have been trying to create my own band page (When Chai Met Toast) and whenever I try to add/edit information, it gets reverted by someone and I have been trying to so this for many days and not able to.

Please do help.


 * Courtesy link: When Chai Met Toast. Princess Persnickety   (talk)  13:08, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Important distinction: You don't have a bandpage on WP, WP has an article about When Chai Met Toast, see WP:OWN. If you're a member, see WP:COI and WP:EDITREQUEST, you are welcome to make suggestions and give sources that support them at Talk:When Chai Met Toast. WP:ISAWIT is not good enough. Your edit was reverted because that's the wrong place for an external link. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Pinging, if you're interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Correcting ping Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Is there anyway to sort tables by different columns on mobile?
Hi everyone,

I’m trying to look at the list of countries by incarceration rate, and the table comes up in alphabetical order. This makes it almost impossible to discern any useful information from the table. Is there a way to sort it by the other columns on mobile, because I can’t seem to figure it out. 2001:8F8:1B2F:C6AA:8979:5E47:A32B:79F9 (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * GoingBatty (talk) 15:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I just went to that site on my mobile. I do see that the sort options aren't available on mobile but if you scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see the word "desktop" which will convert to the desktop view. You can then sort by any column.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm a new user and need to upload an image - how to become a confirmed user?
I just need to upload a new logo for my organization. It seems I need to make 10 edits in order to become a confirmed user and able to upload an image? I don't have any edits to make, however. Do I need to look around for things to change on other pages? Not bringing a lot of content expertise here, just trying to upload an image. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SU Webmaster (talk • contribs) 15:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Since you apparently have a conflict of interest, I suggest you follow the recommendation on your talk page to "propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template)", including suggesting that someone else uploads an image from a web page to Wikipedia. GoingBatty (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)  Greetings, and welcome.  Accounts become autoconfirmed after four days and ten edits, at which point uploading images becomes possible.  That said, there are other issues at play here which you should take note of.
 * Firstly, your username does not appear to be in compliance with with our username policy, as it appears to be an account representing a role rather than you as an individual. Note that something like "Bob at SU" would be fine.  You can request a username change here, or, since your edit here is your only edit to date, it would be just as well to cease using that account and start a new one.
 * Secondly, and most importantly, regardless of your username, if you are editing Wikipedia as part of your job duties, you must disclose your affiliation as a paid editor as per the Terms of Use to which you agreed when you created your account. See also our guidelines on conflict of interest and note that edits which appear to be promotional will not be looked upon favorably.
 * If you look around enough, you shouldn't have a great deal of trouble finding articles in need of minor improvements. But please read the links to policies and procedures which I have provided above before proceeding further.  Thank you for your time, and feel free to ask more questions if you have them.  --Finngall talk  16:11, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SU Webmaster (talk • contribs) 17:18, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Putting an image in a table in a certain way
Hello, I have been working a lot on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_of_the_House_of_Representatives_of_Japan

I am trying to turn the list format into table format, as in the japanese version of the article: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A1%86%E8%AD%B0%E9%99%A2%E5%B0%8F%E9%81%B8%E6%8C%99%E5%8C%BA%E5%88%B6%E9%81%B8%E6%8C%99%E5%8C%BA%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7#%E7%BE%A4%E9%A6%AC%E7%9C%8C

As you can see the japanese version of the article has a map of the prefecture's districts INSIDE of the table for that prefecture. I want to know how to do this (I can't look at the source for the japanese article because it's all in japanese). Thanks. Bwmdjeff (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I moved one image into the table in so you can see how it's done.  I used   per Help:Table.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 16:32, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

two edits at the same time - different topics
Hello, I just submitted some edits for a page and am awaiting approval. Now, I want to create a new post (totally different topic) and need a blank page to start over to do that. How do I get another blank "Sandbox" or is there another way I should do this? Marcia M.


 * Do you mean you submitted your sandbox article for WP:AfC? You should really copy it to Draft:Your article's title and submit that instead. Then you could reuse your sandbox. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * While you could move your User:Marcia K. Morgan/sandbox to Draft:Anatomical doll, it is unlikely to be approved because there's already an article for Anatomically correct doll. Since you also seem to have a conflict of interest, you could declare your COI on your user page using UserboxCOI and suggest improvements to the existing article by posting them to Talk:Anatomically correct doll with the request edit template.  You could also create more sandboxes (or other user subpages) such as User:Marcia K. Morgan/sandbox2 or User:Marcia K. Morgan/any text.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 01:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

I NEED YOUR HELP
CAN YOU PLEASEEEEE make me a favor? They keep block me for NO REASON - I SWEAR IT! On wikipedia.it ..really! https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/MaraJK

this is my new account... and they blocked it and deleted all the things i have done! all!--- Now the pages are a mess and with wrong info! Can you please restore the things i have done.. as you can see they deleted all: THE WORD 'ANULLATO' AT THE END MEANS THAT THEY DELTED WHAT I HAVE DONE---

why they do like that?? always!! WHAT I HAVE DONE OF WRONF ON THE PAGES? CHECK!---

THEY ARE SOOOO BAD....---

please! the pages are a mess now... in 24 hours i will have another ip... but.. i am sick of this.. they can't keep like that WHY THEY THINK TO BE RIGHT... I did create a thing like 14 accounts.. all blocked for no reasons! no reasons! and when i complain like this... they make a mess and delete all... and block me... PD HELP!

the page LESLEY COLLIER - was deleted? if yes recreate it, THANK YOU...---

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I DO NOT THINK I KILLED SOME1....'''

UPDATE: they will never PAY FOR WHAT THEY KEEP DO?.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaraJK (talk • contribs) 18:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The preceding was added in a misformatted fashion by MaraJK (talk). I removed the strange formatting. -Arch dude (talk) 18:49, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Each Wikipedia language is a separate project with separate rules. We at the English Wikipedia help desk cannot help you with problems at the Italian wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 18:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * In case you're still on this IP as Arch dude says, we can't help you it-wiki. However, if they blocked you on one account, that applies to you as a person, so they are always going to block you on any other account you make, and that would itself make it far harder for you to get an unblock or make an appeal for the original action (that is, even if that block was bad, it wouldn't authorise you to keep making accounts to evade it). Nosebagbear (talk) 18:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * "bloccato" - even I can figure out what that means. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  19:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Delete Anwar Agewan Wikipedia
I am unable to delete anwar agewan wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Agewan

I would be thankful i can get help on how to delete it as few of the information is incorrect or lie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garimap (talk • contribs)
 * Well, you could open an WP:AFD, but I doubt the article will be deleted in its current state, and the fact that you're a new editor starting an AfD may concern other editors. If you believe information within the article is incorrect and it's unsourced, you can tag it for needing a source, or outright delete it, though the latter may be considered bad practice. If the information is sourced and you nevertheless believe it to be incorrect, your best bet is likely to raise your concerns at the article's Talk page to see whether you can get a consensus that the information should be deleted. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 20:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Related info posted at User talk:Nizil Shah. TimTempleton (talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * (ec) Only administrators may delete articles. If you have reasons based in Wikipedia guidelines to propose its deletion, please follow the instructions at Articles for Deletion, though I don't think you will succeed. Note that if you believe the article to have incorrect information, you should discuss it on the article talk page. Please note that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say, and makes no claims as to truthfulness. You will need to show that the sources are not accurately summarized. If the sources are incorrect, but summarized accurately here, you will need to take that up with them. 331dot (talk) 20:20, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This user's been coming onto -en-help regularly over the past few days to try and get the page deleted because they object to its content on more than just accuracy grounds. —<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 21:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Replied on my talkpage. -Nizil (talk) 05:45, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The article can't be deleted on the ground of 'notability'. I don't think that the information is incorrect, since it comes from a very authentic Encyclopedia/Who's Who Dictionary, which have been prepared by very genuine scholars of Gujarati literature and published by very reputed literary institutions. If User:Garimap has any issue with the information, they should directly contact these institutions which have published the cited references. --Gazal world (talk) 10:39, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Categories such as "Category:Chinese mathematicians"
As a word, "Chinese" can be used to indicate residence (location), citizenship (law), genetic ancestry (biology), or ethnic group affiliation (behavior). For categories like "Category:Chinese mathematicians", which of these do we mean? Blurring the distinction between these categories could easily be classified as (inadvertent) racism: e.g., that U.S. citizens of Japanese genetic ancestry were rounded up in World War 2 is widely viewed as racism.

Obviously this applies to other countries as well. How do I start a discussion to address this issue? —[[User:Quantling| Q

uantling]] (talk &#124; contribs) 21:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's for nationality. That's why Category:Chinese mathematicians is in Category:Mathematicians by nationality. Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality says: "Do not create categories that are a cross-section of a topic with an ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation, unless these characteristics are relevant to the topic." Ethnicity is not considered relevant for mathematicians so there is no category for mathematicians in Category:People of Chinese descent by occupation. I'm a bit surprised we have Category:American academics of Chinese descent. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the quick response. Just to be sure that I get it -- by "nationality" you mean "citizenship" so a "Chinese mathematician" is a citizen of China?  (Well, I suppose if a person's citizenship changes over their lifetime then it could be more confusing, but let's stick to the simple case of someone whose citizenship remains constant.)  — Q uantling (talk &#124; contribs) 00:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Bascially yes, but citizenship has a specific legal meaning and is often just an assumption. You don't have to know the legal status of somebody to classify them as a Chinese mathematician. If they work in China, have a Chinese sounding name, and you have no reason to think they are not Chinese citizens, then just place them in Category:Chinese mathematicians. But don't claim on the category page that it is for mathematicians with Chinese citizenship. That may deter editors from adding people who belong there. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I wasn't trying to measure how much certainty we need; I was just trying to figure out what we are measuring.  If (it is likely enough that) the person is a Chinese citizen and (likely enough that the person) is a mathematician then that's what we mean by "Chinese mathematician".  So long as that is understood, and it is not also a blur with genetic ancestry, ethnic group affiliation, or location of residence then I am good. — Q uantling (talk &#124; contribs) 00:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)