Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 August 20

= August 20 =

Interview an Editor
I teach a university class titled Technology and Social Change.

I am looking for an editor to talk with during class time.

I have no agenda or goal and am open to any subject area. Can you help me?

Dave/ Daveathumboldtedu (talk) 05:41, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, Dave,
 * Depending on what you are looking for, you might contact Education program. They are set up to deal with instructors and classroom situations. They have a lot of experience from the Wikimedia Foundation side of this process. They are more familiar with these kinds of inquiries.
 * Or, maybe an editor will respond here and that's all you are looking for. Liz Read! Talk! 05:47, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You might want to specify the general things you want to interview the editor about, to screen the guest. Everyone can speak about their own feelings/place in Wikipedia etc. but if (say) you asked me about the inner history of how Wikipedia was created I would not be able to answer. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 08:36, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Updates to iHeartMedia
Hi there -- I submitted a request for edits to the iHeartMedia page a while ago but have not heard back. I was hoping to get the changes expedited. I am copying the requests below. Thank you!

Clear Channel Outdoor spun off from iHeartMedia in 2019, as seen here:

Please move the following to the Clear Channel Outdoor page, under a new header "Current work"

Under 3.2 Outdoor Advertising:

Under the Clear Channel umbrella, Clear Channel Outdoor was built from the acquisition of Eller Media, Universal Outdoor, and More Group Plc, giving iHeartMedia outdoor advertising space in 25 countries, while CCO also has a stake in Jolly Pubblicita S.p.A. of Italy. Other units of CCO include: •	BBH Exhibits •	Yellow Checker Star Cab Displays •	Dauphin OTA (created by Jacques Dauphin) •	Donrey Media, Ackerley Media •	Companies in Chile, Poland, and Switzerland •	APN News & Media in Australia (49% stake, including Adshel) In the United States, CCO operates over 1,100 digital billboards in 27 markets. Taxi Tops was sold to Verifone in January 2010.

PLEASE LEAVE THE FIRST AND LAST SENTENCES OF THIS SECTION IN THIS SECTION AND ON THIS PAGE

Please move the following sections and all their content to the Clear Channel Outdoor page as well:

3.6 Worldwide 3.6.1 Bicycle rental systems 3.7 Vertical Real Estate

There are some sections which are outdated. Requesting the following updates:

Under iHeartRadio: Please change this paragraph to: iHeartRadio is a free all-in-one digital music, podcasting and live streaming radio service. It is also the national umbrella brand for iHeartMedia’s radio network aggregating its over 860 local iHeartMedia radio stations across the United States, Canada, Mexico, Australia, and New Zealand, as well as hundreds of other stations from various other media and digital specific radio stations available only on iHeartRadio.

Under Urban, urban AC and rhythmic stations Please change header to Hip-hop, Rap, R&B and rhythmic stations Please remove the references to “urban” accordingly: Stations that carry programming catering to Black Americans are a big part of many iHeartMedia clusters, particularly Philadelphia, Chicago, and Detroit. In many clusters iHeartMedia has two or more such stations. About half of these stations focus on rap and hip hop along with younger rhythm and blues sounds. The other half blend some younger rhythm and blues along with some soul from the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s along with some current product. In a cluster with multiple hip-hop, rap, R&B, and rhythmic stations owned by iHeartMedia, one is focused on rap while the other is focused on soul. Examples include Philadelphia, with WUSL's focus on hip hop while WDAS-FM focuses on soul (in addition, the company also owns a rhythmic AC station in that area, which is WISX 106.1), and Chicago, where WGCI-FM focuses on rap while WVAZ is focused on soul. iHeartMedia hip hop, rap, R&B, and rhythmic stations are branded as "Real" (KRRL Los Angeles), "Beat" (KQBT/Houston, WBTP Tampa) or "Power" (WWPR New York City, WUSL Philadelphia and WHEN Syracuse). In San Francisco, iHeartMedia owned more hip hop, rap, R&B, and rhythmic stations such as Rhythmic Top 40 KYLD, rhythmic oldies KISQ, and rhythmic contemporary KMEL in that area (KYLD shifted to Top 40/CHR in 2015, KISQ flipped to AC in 2016), and the same happened in Detroit, where the company also owns rhythmic AC WMXD, rhythmic contemporary WJLB and former rhythmic AC WDTW-FM (now WLLZ). iHeart also has hip hop, rap, R&B, and rhythmic outlets with heritage and familiarity based on the markets they serve, like WHRK and WDIA in Memphis, and WKKV in Milwaukee. Another growing format, Classic Hip-Hop/Throwback/Old School (consisting of R&B/Hip-Hop, Rap, and Rhythmic songs from the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s), can be heard full-time on iHeartRadio, as well as KATZ-FM/St. Louis and KUBT-HD2 in Honolulu. Previously, this format was originated as Rhythmic Oldies, which was launched at KCMG/Los Angeles and later spread to more markets before the former Clear Channel flipped several stations out of the format by the mid-2000s. For the Rhythmic Top 40 format, similar brandings include "The Beat" (KUBT/Honolulu and WBTT/Ft. Myers), Power 102/El Paso, 104.5 Kiss FM/Beaumont, Texas, "Jam'n" (KXJM/Portland Oregon, KSSX/San Diego, and WJMN/Boston; a similar "Jammin'" is used at WSTV/Roanoke & WJJX/Lynchburg). A "B" has been used at B95/Fresno since the 1980s. Others Rhythmics, such as KUBE/Seattle, KDON-FM/Salinas-Monterey and KGGI/Riverside-San Bernardino, simply use the call letters and/or frequency. Most of these stations target a multicultural audience and play Rhythmic Pop, R&B/Hip-Hop, and Dance tracks. For rhythmic AC stations, they used to have the "Party" branding (particularly during the time when most used Wake Up with Whoopi out of WKTU as their morning show), but the two "Party" stations in Denver (KPTT) and Las Vegas (KYMT, the former KPLV) have since exited the Rhythmic AC format. KPTT and KYMT moved to top 40, but continue to use the "Party" branding (KYMT is currently mainstream rock). The Breakfast Club Morning Show out of WWPR-FM in New York and "Big Boy's Neighborhood" out of KRRL in Los Angeles are iHeartMedia's syndicated urban morning shows. Under Sports talk stations: Please add at the end: In 2020, iHeartMedia launched the iHeartSports Network, providing content to approximately 500 stations and their digital streams. Under Country music: Please add at the end: In 2015, iHeartMedia launched the iHeartCountry franchise, which includes its 150 Country broadcast radio stations reaching more than 110 million Country music listeners per month, making it the largest Country broadcast radio group in America. In addition, iHeartMedia launched an annual country national event franchise, the iHeartRadio Country Festival. Under Spanish: Please change “The division is run by Spanish radio executive Alfredo Alonso” to “The division was run by Spanish radio executive Alfredo Alonso” Please add at the end of Spanish: In September 2016, iHeartMedia brought on leading Hispanic radio talent Enrique Santos as the Chairman and Chief Creative Officer of a newly formed iHeartLatino division focused on creating new English-language programs across broadcast, digital and social for the Latino community. In addition, iHeartMedia launched an annual Latinx-focused national event franchise called iHeartRadio Fiesta Latina. Under Rejection of advertising images:

Please move this entire section to Clear Channel Outdoor.

IannoneM (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Your edit request is pending; edit requests are reviewed by volunteers who do what they can when they can, you will need to be patient. Wikipedia has no deadlines and to be frank(I apologize) Wikipedia is not concerned with any deadlines you might be under.  If you have an association with iHeartMedia, you must review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required disclosures you must make. 331dot (talk) 13:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Removal of information
Hello

I am searching for help on ways to have my information removed from a wikipedia post. It is under Marc Andreessen Can this be done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcAndresse (talk • contribs)
 * Please go to Talk:Marc Andreessen and make a formal edit request(go to this page for instructions), detailing the changes you feel are needed. 331dot (talk) 14:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Before making your request, you may wish to read WP:BLP. For all articles on Wikipedia, we do not remove relevant information that has been published in reliable sources. However the standards for the reliability of the source and the relevance are more rigorous for information about a living person, and editors are encouraged to be more aggressive about removing information that does not meet these standards. If you think such info fails to meet these standards, this is one of the very few cases where an editor with a WP:COI is permitted to remove the information directly, by editing the article. However, I would still use the formal edit request instead, unless it is very clear that the information must be removed. -Arch dude (talk) 15:05, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * FYI - soft block per username violation. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  01:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Could this user really be the Marc Andreessen? I couldn't find any account for MarcAndree*, so why leave out the second 'e'? ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 13:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

2021 in baseball
Can you fix an error i made please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 15:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You'll have to specify the error. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Made some fixes to 2021 in baseball. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:20, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

RU.TV
Hello! Could you add translate from Russian Wikipedia, thank you in advance.--Станислав Савченко (talk) 16:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you do it?--Станислав Савченко (talk) 16:17, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you!--Станислав Савченко (talk) 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Станислав Савченко: You might have a better chance of finding people willing to help you over at WikiProject Russia. Isabelle 🔔 16:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


 * You may be able to interest one of the editors in the Russian-to-English section of Translators available. -Arch dude (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you again!--Станислав Савченко (talk) 19:53, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * And how made articles on English?--Станислав Савченко (talk) 18:24, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

TagPro.com
--Tagpro1 (talk) 16:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)Good Day,

My name is Florin Pope and I am the Founder and CEO of Tagpro.com and not to be mistaken for Tagpro.gg. Our company holds the trademarks for Tagpro and would like to discuss the content that is currently on your platform that belongs to Tagpro.gg. Our goal is to provide our users with the correct content representing Tagpro.com. How can we correctly address TagPro.com and remove Tagpro.gg? I provided you with the links to our trademarks for your reference.

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4803:yu84et.2.3 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4803:yu84et.2.2 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4803:yu84et.2.1

Off the subject, I'm glad to see that Wikipedia is still active. Ive been donating on a monthly bases for over 2 years. tagpro.com

Kind Regards, Florin Pope Tagpro Technologies --16:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)Tagpro1 (talk)
 * That content does not belong to Tagpro.gg and nothing precludes an article for both .com and .gg existing. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 16:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * We evaluate the notability of the subject of each article. If only one of these companies is notable, we could have an article on only that one company. If both companies are notable, we could have a separate article for each company. If neither company is notable, neither company should have an article. If an article has incorrect information due to confusion of the two companies, (e.g., an incorrect logo) we can fix the article. -Arch dude (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's kind of you to make donations to the Wikimedia Foundation, but it has no bearing on the editing that volunteers do on Wikipedia. Before creating an article about a company, editors determine whether the company meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  Once an article is created, the company may not edit it directly, due to concerns about conflict of interest.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think this post is referring to the TagPro article, there seem to be a couple of websites hosting the game and I think OP's complaint is that the infobox link in the article is to a unofficial copy? The PC gamer article used as a reference in the article gives the URL as http://tagpro.koalabeast.com, but this isn't a topic I know enough about to make an informed comment. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that wants the Wikipedia article TagPro article to be about his company instead of the game.  However, if there's a concern about one of the links in the article, Talk:TagPro is the place to bring that up.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 19:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I just changed the .gg url to the redirected final target. I'm not seeing enough sources to suggest Tagpro Technologies would qualify for an article.  TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  23:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * And as a courtesy FYI, editor has already been alerted about the username violation. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  23:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, Florin, the links didn't work for me, but I found that registration 88458701 (2019) is for "Connecting qualified service providers with consumers ... in the field(s) of home renovation for commercial purposes." IANAL, but if USA is anything like Australia, then trademarks are scoped to a specific industry or field of application. So having a trade mark for "TagPro" in home renovation doesn't stop someone else using the term in the field of online games. Plus the game's use of the name (2013) predates yours. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 13:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Incorporating Infox building into Infobox company
Hi, is there a way of incorporating Template:Infobox building into Template:Infobox company currently? I find it would be very handy if one could use both infoboxes, especially in hotel-related articles. Cheers-- <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 16:28, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * See the instructions at Template:Infobox company. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:30, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. Looks like Template:Infobox company doesn't have an embedded parameter. When I try to add the building infobox with an embedded parameter it gives a warning, "Preview warning: Page using Template:Infobox company with unknown parameter 'embedded'". Then I embedded the building infobox in the headquarters parameter. The result is not pretty, see my sandbox. Would it be possible to an embedded parameter to the company infobox?-- <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 18:19, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Have you considered embedding Template:Infobox company into Template:Infobox building? See Template:Infobox_building. GoingBatty (talk) 18:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I tried it and it works too. But, it would be awkward for readers see the infoxbox building as the main infobox, when the company is the more prominent subject. Don't you think?-- <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 18:34, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reading the lead of the Taj Samudra article, it seems that the building is the more prominent subject. GoingBatty (talk) 18:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Since it a listed company and the 78th most valuable brand in Sri Lanka, I would say it qualify under WP:NCOMPANY before it qualifies WP:NBUILDING. I made another edit to the sandbox (at the bottom), this time embedding the company in the the building. Seems salvageable, still feels awkward though. I think that'll do for the moment. Still love to see if someone could add that embedded parameter to the infobox building. Cheers-- <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 19:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * If the company is the more prominent subject, maybe the article should be TAL Lanka Hotels. GoingBatty (talk) 19:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I could be wrong but did you try using  to embed the building infobox into company infobox? Just from a quick read of the template documentation it should work as you were hoping it would.  The Doctor Who  (talk) 19:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It worked. Thanks a bunch for pointing it out. Cheers-- <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 19:40, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Wildrose Station - Death Valley National Park
My aunt and uncle (both now deceased) once owned Wildrose Station in Death Valley National Park. My aunt was a secondary english teacher in nearby Trona. The location included six cabins, a restaurant and two gasoline pumps and living quarters above the restaurant. I spent two summers (early 1950s) on location cleaning out cabins and waiting on restaurant patrons and a lot of time wandering across the rocky hills surrounding Wildrose Station. I distinctly remember the mud wall remnants of an earlier structure located behind the restaurant. My family spent several Thanksgiving dinners here along with three or four local "desert folk". Henry S. Dillon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.220.51.194 (talk)
 * Thanks; is there a particular reason you are sharing this information? 331dot (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * If you can find a source, you can add info about Wildrose Station to the article, probably in Death Valley National Park. FYI - I saw these when looking, but they aren't reliable sources.[] []  <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  01:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

How do I find Wikipedia articles that link to a subsection of a page?
Over at Lift(Force) we're about to implement a significant reorganization of the material, including re-titling some subsections. I know that there are many pages that link to specific subsections, and I'm aware of how to put in a span tag to create an anchor with the old title.

Is there a way to find out how many articles link to a particular subsection? I suppose I could just put in a span tag for every renamed subsection, but it's likely that some don't have any links pointing to them making the span tag unnecessary.

P.S. I know there is the "What links here" link on the left hand side, but it doesn't indicate anything about links to particular subsections.

Thanks. Mr. Swordfish (talk) 20:43, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. I figured it out.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Links_to  Mr. Swordfish (talk) 21:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Changing incorrect information
There’s incorrect information in the Behrooz Rezvani article, but I have a COI and can’t change it myself. My client Rezvani was born in Iran and moved to the US. The article says he was born in the US. I put a connected edit request on the talk page, but it was rejected because there’s no source. Since saying he was born in America is also unsourced, can we just remove place of birth altogether? 63.249.73.187 (talk) 21:09, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I did a quick search and can't find anything that says he was born in the USA or Iran. Since it's unsourced, I just removed the USA from the infobox.  I noticed the other sourcing is a bit weak - I'll see if I can add some more info, including a source for Iran. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hardly anything on this subject anywhere, even on Wikipedia
I am looking for information on a T.J. Holmes Co. that made Holmespray with Des Pat 92148 on the bottom of a small green bottle. I found zero information after searching both Holmespray and T.J. Holmes Co. on Wikipedia. Here is what little I've found elsewhere on other websites:

"This Vintage throat and nose Atomizer was manufactured by the T.J. Holmes Co under the product name "HOLMESPRAY". The patent number "DES. PAT. 92148" can be seen on bottom of bottle."

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-1940s-medical-atomizer-1826214016

"Vintage 1940’s green depression glass atomizer."

"Bottle is about 2 1/2” tall, 3 3/4” to sprayer. Patent number DES. PAT. 92148 is stamped on bottom. Bottle thought to be manufactured by the T. J. Holmes Co. under product name “Holmespray”.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/931172909/vintage-green-atomizer-1940s-medical-t-j

And this last link didn't have any descriptions, but still had information.

https://magwv.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/690AC7C0-21CA-41B1-8496-291375060331

How is there nothing on Wikipedia about this company, and how can a page be made for it? How would a page even be made for it if there's so little info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:542:C000:DE60:D8D:A04F:F31E:A4F4 (talk)
 * Wikipedia has articles about subjects that have significant coverage in independent reliable sources, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. If a subject has little coverage, it probably won't merit an article. If you think the sources exist, please read Your first article and go to Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 21:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, . <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's worth noting that something having little press/information elsewhere is a reason to not have info on Wikipedia, rather than a reason for it. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)