Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 February 19

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help getting a business page up.
i do not understand much about Wikipedia except for how much it's a blessing to have these resources. let me start by introducing my self my name is taiwo I'm a self-funded startup founder i very much understand how essential it is for a business to have a wiki presence. I'm hoping someone could help me navigate through getting started on wiki for my business page thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.191.29 (talk) 01:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a business directory or avenue of promotion. When/If your company meets the criteria at WP:NCORP, then someone unconnected to the company may write an article about it.  RudolfRed (talk) 01:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * We're like a bank. It doesn't loan you money unless you don't need it. In Wikipedia's case, it's publicity/a higher profile. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism report
Vandalism report, Pope Francis - appears the trolls have struck again! Please revert page to a prior existence. 2601:601:1980:34D0:B879:9024:C36A:AE0 (talk) 01:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Already done by . Next time you notice vandalism, you can revert it yourself or post on the article's talk page (e.g. Talk:Pope Francis).  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 03:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Not sure why my response disappeared. Princess Persnickety   (talk)  11:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

2021 NBA All-Star Game Logo
I Saw The 2021 NBA All-Star Game Logo on the Sportslogos website But Can you please upload it for me please. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

2021 NBA All-Star Game Article
Can you fix the errors i made please 68.102.42.216 (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you please fix the errors on the 2021 NBA All Star Game page please. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 03:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed the empty  tags at the top of the article. You added   without defining it, which causes the error in reference #2.  Could you please add the appropriate reference, or ask for help on the article's talk page: Talk:2021 NBA All-Star Game.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 03:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Quenstion about Ngân 98
Excuse me, I want to have some questions about the notability of Ngân 98. She is a Vietnamese hot girl, model and DJ, famous for a lot of scandals such as nudity, playing drugs, "leaking" clip sex on internet, apartment debts, livestream with bikini, controversial speech..., but somehow these actions made her popular in Vietnamese media, so she was reported to be automatically notable person and had an article about herself on Vietnamese wikipedia. So I wonder if other persons like Ngân 98 is reported to be automatically notable person and have an article like her? Mintu Martin (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm presuming you're asking about notability for the English Wikipedia. She would have to meet the criteria at Notability (people) like anyone else.  GoingBatty (talk) 03:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying me. I'm afraid my English is not good enough to read en-wikipedia, so I don't think I can read the criteria at Notability (people). I just wonder if Ngân 98 is deserved to have an article in en-wiki (and maybe vi-wiki, because most of rules in vi-wiki was translated from en-wiki) and why? Could you help me explain in short, please? Mintu Martin (talk) 05:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Your English is much better than my Vietnamese. I'm not able to read the references or gauge the reliability of those publishers.  Maybe someone else here can help with that.  GoingBatty (talk) 13:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding Sir Manasseh Meyer International School to International Schools Singapore List
I made a request to be added to this semi protected page which was rejected. I don't really understand why. We have been in operation for almost 25 years. I provided our website. The article quoted as evidence to reject us actually has a paragraph on the school in section 4.4 but perhaps the editor didn't read that far down the article. Please advise what I can do? Many thanks in advance. 2406:3003:2003:2BC7:DDED:408:5178:8A7 (talk) 04:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * You should discuss it the article's talk page and get consensus from other editors on that school should be added or not. RudolfRed (talk) 04:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * As stated at Talk:List of international schools in Singapore, Sir Manasseh Meyer International School was not added to the list because there is no Wikipedia article for the school. GoingBatty (talk) 04:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

How to choose a taxonomic name when the source uses a synonym?
I have several cases of flora where the Latin taxonomic name used in the source is different from the Latin taxonomic name used as the relevant article's title, although the source's name is listed in the article as a synonym. For example, I have a source that lists Acacia nilotica which is a synonym of Vachellia nilotica. I'm wondering if there is a rule of thumb on whether I should use the source name or the target article's name in the article I'm working on. The advantage of using the source name is that it's easier to verify in the source, while the advantage of using the article name is that it's likely the most common name and thus more recognisable and also less likely to confuse the reader with a redirect. Any guidance? Thanks. Brycehughes (talk) 05:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Brycehughes Ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:22, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do! Brycehughes (talk) 13:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Changing Page Name
Hello... I am new to Wikipedia, so just wondering how I can please change my page name? thank you, Sam

My URL is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sjwa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjwa (talk • contribs) 06:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * you can move the Page Dr Salvus (talk) 06:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Uh, no, you should not (and probably can't). Each user has a user page (named User:Sjwa in your case) and a user talk page (named User talk:Sjwa in your case). If you wanted to change your username, since you have only two edits as a brand-new user, is to simply abandon your Sjwa account (change the password and lose it) and create a new account. Keep in mind our WP:USERNAME policies and that your username and page are really just incidental to the work done here as a Wikipedia editor (unlike social media). Thanks. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 06:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I want to become a rollbacker
Hi, I applied to be a rollbacker but was refused "because I have no anti-vandal experience". I would like to know how this kind of experience is acquired Dr Salvus (talk) 06:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Go. Hunt. Revert vandalism. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 06:58, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * . You may find Counter-Vandalism Unit useful.--Shantavira|feed me 08:58, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

How do I request a file upload?
I found the file upload request page, how do I request an upload? 121.200.86.194 (talk) 17:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Files for upload has a blue button "Make a new request". PrimeHunter (talk) 09:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Files for upload/Wizard pops up, which one can I click? 121.200.86.194 (talk) 22:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you don't have an account then click "upload without registering". It actually only leads to a request to upload. I don't know why Oshwah stated it like that in . PrimeHunter (talk) 14:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * PrimeHunter - Sorry, what did I do wrong? What happened?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:59, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are not logged in then Files for upload/Template displays:
 * "If you don't have an account, you can upload without registering."
 * But you cannot upload without registering. You can only request an upload. You made the text when you created the page in 2016. The text has since been hidden for autoconfirmed users. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * PrimeHunter - I'm honestly not sure why it says that. I remember making the template simpler by arranging the buttons in a grid-like format. I don't believe that I added that section. What's the link to the request an upload page? I'll fix the template...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've commented out that section in the meantime...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:44, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Where is the upload without registering button? 121.200.86.194 (talk) 15:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oshwah has removed it. You cannot upload without registering. The link went to Files for upload/Wizard/Search, just like the button "The image is non-free and I'm not autoconfirmed". Please don't add your local time to posts but sign with . This automatically adds a correct UTC time stamp. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Is monitoring topic falls under Internet censorship topic?
I want to add monitoring activity by government in Internet Censhorship articles. Will it be off topic to mention? Rizosome (talk) 09:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I suggest you ask this question in the article's talk page. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Rollback button
Even if I don't have permission, the "rollback" button is visible. Do I get blocked if I press it? Dr Salvus (talk) 14:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No. Twinkle (which you appear to use) has its own Rollback buttons which are independent of Rollbacker rights. So as long as you don't misuse Twinkle, there is nothing to be worried about. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  14:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

help editing wiki page
Moved from talk page TSventon (talk) 14:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I want to thank all those who are helping me. I'm still missing my recent publication on polyamory that is essential to the new direction of my research: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1363460720975328. I would appreciate if someone can mention it in the intro section after my polygyny research as "Bennion has embarked on new research applying network analysis to polygamory communities." Thanks, all. Jbb10020 (talk) 14:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * We don't exist to promote your research. Now, if you research has valuable findings, we can include it. So what exactly has your research discovered? AdmiralEek (talk) 15:22, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That is precisely NOT how we cite a research finding. Adding the author's name in the text does nothing to aid the reader's understanding of the subject, it merely promotes the researcher. Instead, the author's name is part of the reference. Further, the statement itself is nothing more than a prediction that network analysis may become important for polyamory research in the future. Unless this fact is mentioned in the press, it should not be in the article at all. -Arch dude (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Come on!
F**** you, Wikipedia.

No matter how many links, references or sources I cite, you claim its not true. "It's not reliable! It's not reliable!" Even if its a highly reputable source, probably because of some people's opinions that they let get in the way of information. Wikipedia is a stupid site that allows no growth, no additions, and nothing important, or something that might be needed to be added. Wikipedia blocks anyone who tries to do something they believe will improve. It's always "As per WP:FFF, I need to stick a finger up my ass."

Stop irritating me by deleting my edits! What should I do, cite a million sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danglerofhell (talk • contribs) 15:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I take it this regards Draft:Daniel Greene? YouTube is not a reliable source. Wired is however. I'm sorry you've had such a rough time, but Wikipedia has high standards, that's how we have become a major resource. May I inquire why you are writing about Green? Writing articles from scratch is the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia; we often suggest new users start on editign existing articles. AdmiralEek (talk) 15:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * More specifically, the two YouTube references currently on Draft:Daniel Greene are videos created by Greene, and therefore a primary source. If Wired or another well-known company published an independent video about Greene on YouTube, that could be considered a good reliable source.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * You should read WP:BLP carefully. If you can't source it to a reliably published and independent source, don't put it in the article. When in doubt, exclude. Basically, nothing he says/writes about himself is interesting (not for arguing that the article should be kept, anyway). No WP:USERG sources are. The Wired source seems decent, it helps the argument for WP:GNG/WP:BASIC, but it's not enough, you need more refs like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Based on, this may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I understand your frustration, but please don't take it out on the volunteers here at the help desk. I suggest you please review Civility, and take a break.  When you're ready, I suggest you review Reliable sources and find more references.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry. I was in a bad mood when I wrote this. Danglerofhell (talk) 11:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Understandable and apology appreciated. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Today’s edit of Turning Point USA
Interesting that your entry is now a hit piece with ridiculous innuendo and charges of everything from incest to polygamy — when does “left wing” ever appear as a characterization of LIBERAL Democrat donors? Your timing and level of vitriol is matched only by the sophomoric writing - like a junior-high last minute term paper with no point but a ton of references. C- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.56.236.201 (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That is the action of a single editor. If you do not like it, the place to discuss it is at the article's talk page Talk:Turning_Point_USA. Ironically, I think you refer to this edit, which actually removed far more controversial material than it added. AdmiralEek (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * RE:"when does “left wing” ever appear as a characterization of LIBERAL Democrat donors?" See Category:Left-wing politics in the United States and Occupy Democrats. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Brand new to editing at Wikipedia and I made a category ("Awards") disappear re Cherrie Moraga
Hi! I'm brand new to editing at Wikipedia. I  just tried to make an edit to author Cherrie Moraga's page , and I am *sorry* that I accidentally made a heading (and link to the) section "Awards" disappear. Please help - thank you! I was trying to add this award from Yale  for Cherrie Moraga: * Brudner Prize. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Studies, Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut. ("Awarded annually to an accomplished scholar, artist, or activist whose work has made significant contributions to LGBT studies and LGBT communities"), 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimwriter2021 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU - I seem to have fixed the problem myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimwriter2021 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * also linked to Brudner Prize in lieu of putting the long description in the list (in keeping with normal style for lists of awards). (, on discussion pages, please add new comments existing ones, and remember to sign your posts by adding   (a space and four tildes) to the very end of your posts. Thanks.) —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 22:05, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect movie role listed
Hi there, can you please amend the name listed in the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixtape_(film), where Olga Petsa should be listed as Nicky and not Diego Mercado. Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.156.206 (talk) 20:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please bring your concerns to the article's talk page. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:22, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I see you have fixed it yourself. Thanks. The reference verifies it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)