Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 February 4

= February 4 =

What does W?F mean?
I have seen it but I do not know what W?F means I know WMF means WikiMedia Foundation but what does W?F mean 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * where did you see it? Hard to say without context. Fredlesaltique (talk) 00:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * See Village pump (WMF)/Archive 1. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding material and having it deleted
I reached out yesterday about adding content because an addition I made was flagged for a copyright violation and it was also stated that I needed to provide an independent citation rather than use the university website as the source. Today I tried adding one sentence about the opening of an Innovation Hub and sourced it to an article from the San Diego Union-Tribune which detailed the opening, but this addition also got deleted. Is there something different I need to be doing when adding information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.103.246 (talk) 00:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * While it is appropriately cited to a reliable source, the information was removed by invoking WP:NOTNEWS. If you want, you may want to start a discussion on Talk:California State University San Marcos with and make an argument as to why this event is notable for the subject. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

How to search for literal '?' ?
This is inspired by a question above. I was trying to search for W?F. Even when enclosed in quotes "W?F" the question mark seems to be interpreted as an optional or perhaps wildcard character and the search results are basically any page with a W and/or F in it.

Is there any way to search Wikipedia for W?F and have the question mark be searched for as part of the search string so that results only include actual W?F ? RudolfRed (talk) 01:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * . Combine with  for efficiency: . See more at Help:Searching. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 21:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Webarchive template
There's some weird text at Haber process. Looks like it's due to the Webarchive template. Anybody know how to fix? —Steve Summit (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Steve. See here. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Splendid! Thanks.  (Normally I like to learn these things, but in this case, I was hoping someone would just fix it, rather than standing on ceremony and teaching me how to fish. :-) ) —Steve Summit (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Learning
I just wondered how do you create these new articles with such detail? Im new in this and I wanted to learn different techniques and ways. Whenever I search an unimportant/insignificant article, I am just blown away by the details and number of references. Sometimes, its just one person doing all the work and i wonder what is he/she doing to make this article that I possibly can't. Im interested for any answers. Thanks. --Kurigo (talk) 05:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * By applying effort, time, scepticism, and experience. Beyond that, it would depend on the particular subject. For many articles, it's clear that the author has (authors have) a far better understanding of mathematics, physics, biology, law, etc than I have. For many, it's clear that they are able to read text in languages that I cannot. -- Hoary (talk) 06:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, . In my opinion, skill in Google search is important. The ability to recognize and investigate the URLs of obviously reliable sources and ignore the URLs of unreliable sources is an important skill, as is the ability to assess the reliability of sources that are borderline at first glance. Also important is the skill to add terms to a search to narrow things down. For example, when researching a sculptor who has a fairly common name, you need to add terms relating to sculpture, art, statues and museums; and if there is a well known brain surgeon with same name, add negative search terms relating to surgery, medicine, hospitals, the brain and so on. A Google Books search will sometimes reveal tiny snippets that are of little direct use, but may yield a nugget like the name of a major art museum that might have lots of new information about the sculptor. When I am actively researching an article topic, I may try dozens of different Google search inquiries, and if I am really interested, I will start ordering books online. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * most articles are started modestly by a single editor and then grow as other editors add to them. As you have noted, some articles are created and expanded primarily by a single editor. You can see the difference by checking the articles history (the "view history" tab). Unless the original editor did the preliminary work offline, you can get a feeling for how the editor worked by looking at the history. I have written a few articles "from scratch" based solely on web searches for reliable sources when I become interested in a topic. I simply keep adding information from all of the sources until the article is adequate. Much more often, I get interested in a subject and find that we already have an article, so I just expand it as needed when I find additional well-sourced information. There is no reason you cannot build an acceptable article yourself. If you do not have experience in writing encyclopedia-style articles, I suggest that you look at the structure of some of our articles on similar subjects to the one you wish to create as a guide to how your article should be structured. -Arch dude (talk) 06:54, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I think of the internet as one vast library. Almost every book you will ever need to help you write a decent Wikipedia article has been digitised, with some or all of it online and/or downloadable. Everything on the Internet Archive (Archive.org) is either out of copyright or available for short-term loan to registered users. Google search appears to deliberately omit Archive.org results, so start your search with  if you're looking for a book. Almost every book there can be downloaded as a pdf with searchable OCR text. Many academic Ph.D theses are available online for free. Google Books has many more recently-published books, although with many pages unavailable. Vast numbers of newspapers, scholarly journals and other publications are thankfully made available to editors through The Wikipedia Library; I find JSTOR particularly useful for history, arts/music, and humanities journals. Help:Find sources is a good place to start. Joining your local library will often allow you to use the National Dictionary of Biography, Encylopedia Britannica or Grove's Music Dictionary online from home. Learn to work out what is a reliable source. A good search engine technique is invaluable. How can I get better at using Google search? by the late Jack Schofield is helpful. Every single one of the articles I created Self promotion? was written entirely through research on the internet. In twelve years on Wikipedia I have referred to about ten physical printed books, used a library three times for special collections, and bought exactly two books to help me in my research. Creating an article (Help:Your first article) is about the hardest thing you can do. Begin by, for example, adding Wikilinks, or improving articles by adding properly-referenced information from reliable sources. Even just creating a decent reference is difficult enough, thanks to Wikipedia's appallingly shoddy free-for-all approach. Personally I would go for cite book along with sfns, plus cite web, and cite news. Others prefer an extensive use of  . It's personal. Help:Overview of referencing styles may be of use. Edit the underlying text for any article to see how any particular referencing style is achieved. Good articles and Featured articles are usually a model of best practice on WP. As  says, look at articles which interest you to see how it's done. Hopefully you may have something to contribute. Often the first attempts of new editors are rejected because they haven't quite grasped "The Rules"™. The Talk pages for each article are the best place to raise concerns. Persevere. Very best of luck. MinorProphet (talk) 14:13, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Signature
Why is my signature like this? Dr Salvus (talk) 06:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Dr SalvusDr Salvus (talk) 06:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Either because that's how you've set it up or because you're signing and datestamping twice. Take a look in "Preferences | User profile | Signature". -- Hoary (talk) 06:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Assuming you're just typing  at the end of your message (and not  ) to cause this, you should reset your signature at Special:Preferences by removing anything in the "Signature" field, un-checking the "Treat the above as wiki markup" checkbox below it, and the clicking the "Save" button. —[  Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 09:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

HoustonCon
Hi! I made edits on the Houstoncon wiki page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houstoncon ) fixing the misnamed 'Ed Blair, Jr' to the correct name of 'Earl Blair, Jr', and some robot named Andrea or something told me that wasn't constructive, and reverted it back to the wrong name. I'm Earl Blair's SON. His name is EARL, not 'Ed'. So please, fix it, othrwise I'll know for a fact that Wikipedia is unreliable information. You can double check for yourself - https://www.facebook.com/earl.blair.3

Now, could that robot lady apologize to me? Thanks! Garrett Blair — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.126.17 (talk) 07:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * Its Asartea
 * I'm not a robot
 * I'm not female
 * If you believe that name is incorrect you're free to change it but a source would be appreciated. While you have provided a Facebook link Facebook is unfortunately enough not a reliabe source and can therefore not be used to support changes like this. Please provided a better source. However please do read Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest.  Asartea  Talk  undefined  Contribs  07:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, there's no source given for Ed, either. And now the Infobox says Earl, and the article says Ed. Uporządnicki (talk) 16:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Editing this page
"For other types of questions, see Help:Contents and Are you in the right place?." has one period too many, methinks. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have removed the period from Help desk/Header. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Electric battery
I found some silly error in this article, Kindly Improve that.

A battery is a device consisting of one or more electrochemical cells with external connections[1] for powering electrical devices such as flashlights, mobile phones, and electric cars. When a battery is supplying electric power, its positive terminal is the cathode and its negative terminal is the anode.

Battery Positive Terminal is called Anode. Battery Negative Terminal is Called Cathode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.228.174.105 (talk) 08:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The article is correct. The cathode is negative when talking about an electron tube or electrolytic cell, but positive when talking about a voltaic cell or battery. If you wish to discuss this further or have reliable evidence to the contrary, the place to discuss it is on the article talk page.--Shantavira|feed me 09:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Changed the letter case for NEO when it is referring to the blockchain, as the blockchain is officially identified as "Neo", and "NEO" is only being used as the token ticker.
To whom this may concern, This message is from the Neo (neo.org) team and I am a full time employee with Neo Global Development Ltd. I have encountered rollback when I tried to update the spelling of the project from NEO to Neo following our branding guideline (https://neo.org/presskit). The consistent and precise expression of our project name is fundamental and essential for our market campaign instead of an insignificant change. Please kindly accept the changes I proposed. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoinW4Neo (talk • contribs) 10:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * To whom this may concern,
 * Screw your marketing campaign. We go by the name reliable sources use most frequently. You are also obligated to disclose your relationship per the terms of use. If you have an issue with the terms being conflated, that is going to be more on the sources and not on us. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 11:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * well, that was rude! And completely uncalled for. Uporządnicki (talk) 17:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Part of the reason the general sanctions in the topic exist is because of people like this who see Wikipedia more as a billboard than anything else. It needs to be crystal clear that we have zero tolerance for this sort of thing. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 21:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * With a possible tweak of "Screw" to "WP is not the place for", it was called for. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:25, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Balancing Wikipedia and Life
Hey. I just wondered... How does one person juggle his daily life with Wikipedia? I am currently a student and I do want to contribute here but I am always bombarded with assignments. Do you have any techniques or maybe websites that help you to create articles? I wanna know. Thank you --Kurigo (talk) 11:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I am a grade 12 student too! You don't want to go too far down the rabbit-hole here! Just try to keep a healthy amount, just as you would go on Reddit, 4chan, etc. People sometimes get into debates on the talk pages here, and it's easy to get lost in them and forget about your work! I know from personal experience! 🤣 Happy editing! Félix An (talk) 17:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I would leave Wikipedia completely alone for the moment and finish your assignments to the very best of your ability. Assignments are immediately achievable goals, and are incredibly important to your entire career (although you might not think so right now). You receive no reward for writing for WP articles. If you waste your time now, you may jeopardise the whole of your working life. You might want to have "At least I wrote some good Wikipedia articles" inscribed on your gravestone, but I would prefer some other wording. Wikipedia can wait, your future is at stake. MinorProphet (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dang, that is some philosophical thinking over the next level. Thanks man. I appreciate it. I guess I need to go back to my studies. --Kurigo (talk) 18:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Reference tag does not close
Could you help me with this？--SilverMatsu (talk) 13:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It would help if you gave us a link. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  14:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for telling me the template.--SilverMatsu (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I removed the tag for now, as it was missing a closing tag . Feel free to add it back in with wherever the tag should stop including content as a reference; see WP:REFGROUP if you need more detailed help. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Apparently it's a bug. . I Read the description and I try to adjust.--SilverMatsu (talk) 23:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've tried it, but it says there's no content. Please see the diff that says error in the summary.thanks!--SilverMatsu (talk) 23:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You need  for an unnamed parameter with an equals sign. Template:Refn mentions it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding pictures
Hello can someone add picture of Te’yJah oliver or show me how to add picture and clean up her page Goalmaker70 (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goalmaker70 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you link to her article? I don’t see it. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  13:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I have cleaned up the usage of &lt;ref>-Tags and removed the excessive boldface, as well as converted the bold headings to use actual software headings. Help:Cheatsheet may be of interest, as well as WP:REFBEGIN. If you don't want to learn the syntax (it can get quite complicated very easely) I reccomend using the visual editor. Right now, adding pictures should not be your main focus, but Help:Pictures may be of interest. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * - did a great job starting the formatting.  I did some more to show how the other sections should look.  But sourcing is badly needed. Much if not most of what's there is going to take a lot of work to source. And she's borderline notable as well, so be prepared to defend her notability. TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * - did a great job starting the formatting.  I did some more to show how the other sections should look.  But sourcing is badly needed. Much if not most of what's there is going to take a lot of work to source. And she's borderline notable as well, so be prepared to defend her notability. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

hanold claqueyu
My history — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanold claqueyu (talk • contribs) 14:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , did you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * . You appear to be trying to write an article about yourself, on your user page. A User page is the wrong place to do that, but writing about yourself is strongly discouraged. If Wikipedia at some time has an article about you, it will not belong to you, you will not have control of its contents, and little or none of its contents will be based on what you say or want to say: almost the whole must be based on what people who have no connection with you have chosen to publish about you (so your Facebook page is not acceptable as a source). Please read the link above, and find another outlet to publicise yourself, not Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 16:54, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Slim Gaillard
Marvin Gaye's 2nd wife Janis Hunter claims to be Slim Gaillard's daughter: https://spokesman-recorder.com/2015/06/03/dance-janis-hunter-shares-highs-lows-life-marvin-gaye/

On Slam's page, Janis' daughter Nona is noted to be Slim's grandaughter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slim_Gaillard

Not sure if you want to include this on Slim's page or create a page for Janis.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.15.135.38 (talk) 14:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating a company page
Hi

Please could you provide step by step instruction on how to create a Wikipedia page for a company that has not been created yet.

thanks Humaira Begum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.69.141.217 (talk) 16:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Before doing all that, you should see if the company meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for corporations. The sources you use should be independent, secondary, reliable, and provide significant coverage of the subject. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that you also have to disclose that you have a conflict of interest with the company on your user page if necessary. Make sure you write with a neutral point of view and not use Wikipedia as an advertising space. Félix An (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Once you've done all that, Your first article has the step by step instructions. GoingBatty (talk) 01:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Just to clear something up, Humaira Begum, your wording is ambiguous: if you mean that the Wikipedia article has not been created yet, then my esteemed colleagues' advice above applies. If however you mean that the company has not been created yet (which is what your wording literally means), then you should absolutely NOT try to create a Wikipedia article about it. This would be pure commercial promotion, which is strictly forbidden on Wikiledia (see WP:PROMO), and an extreme case of WP:TOOSOON. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.40.9 (talk) 09:36, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

permission to use a Wikipedia image
I would like to get permission to use an image posted by wikipedia in the profile written about Isaac Alfasi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Alfasi the image address is https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Brockhaus_and_Efron_Jewish_Encyclopedia_e2_149-0.jpg/240px-Brockhaus_and_Efron_Jewish_Encyclopedia_e2_149-0.jpg thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Me0611 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The image is in the public domain, so there is no copyright on the image. You may freely use the image as you wish! Félix An (talk) 17:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * In case you wish to use other images from Commons which are not public domain, you basically just need to follow the principles laid out at, which for things mostly held under a CC-BY-SA licence just means that you should cite Wikimedia if you put the image into any place others can see it (and specify that the "Same Again" licence condition applies). Note that on the Commons page for the image there are (at the top) icons that provide links to download the file or use it on a webpage. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Article declining
Hello, I want to build an article on a Local Mexican Politician that is running for Mayor. Every time I try to publish, it gets deleted with the note claming of irrelevance and self promotion. Can you help me build a correct article about him? I actually think that is very relevant for people to know who their politicians are and what have they done.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.137.163.56 (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Mere candidates for public office do not meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable politician, so this candidate would need to meet the more general notable person definition. 331dot (talk) 20:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I would add that Wikipedia is not a voter guide; our only concern is notability. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Geoff Lloyd
Hi, my name is Rachel Lloyd and I'm Geoff Lloyd's cousin, his wilkipedia says he was born in Withington Manchester, that is completely incorrect, he was actually born and raised in Macclesfield, Cheshire. I used go around to his house as a child with my Dad, his uncle and can assure you he was from Macclesfield. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:D087:9700:E54E:2178:1FF9:BD76 (talk) 21:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Are there any reliable sources that can attest to that? Wikipedia can only include content that can be verified. Further discussions should take place over on Talk:Geoff Lloyd. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:17, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Here is the source of the information, archived at the Internet Archive, Writers can get information wrong. People can tell untruths about themselves. Since you are his cousin, have you asked him yourself before going any further? MinorProphet (talk) 16:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Restoration of deleted page
Good Afternoon -

What is the process for having a company page restored. It used to exist on Wikipedia at one point but for some reason was deleted.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by IGrafx (talk • contribs) 21:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , without knowing which page you're referring to, going to the title of the deleted article will display a deletion log when you try and edit it. You can propose a deletion review, but I suggest getting as much information as possible. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

The name of the company is iGrafx. The person who originally created the page is no longer with the company and updates needed to be made with regards to ownership and history but the page has been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IGrafx (talk • contribs) 22:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , a few things.
 * Please change your username, as Wikipedia doesn't allow corporate names or names that imply shared use.
 * The article had been deleted for unambiguous promotion before being refunded to userspace. It was moved to AfC, where it was deleted for inactivity.
 * Even if the page were to be recovered, you would be strongly discouraged from directly editing the article, as you have a paid relationship with the subject. In such an event, the best thing to do would be to leave edit requests on the article's talk page. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Indeed,, it's probably mostly because it was created by somebody who worked for the company that it got deleted: it is hard to write neutrally about the organisation you work for. Bear in mind that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.. --ColinFine (talk) 22:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Interesting - but not sure how anyone outside the company could give the history of the company's founding. iGrafx is just looking for a simple page similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signavio & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promapp - These pages were also written by employees of the company. iGrafx is also referenced in multiple articles on Wikipedia that orginally linked back to the company bio. Thank you both for the information — Preceding unsigned comment added by IGrafx (talk • contribs) 22:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Wikipedia is concerned that subjects are notable; corporations have a more specialised set. This is done by what independent reliable sources have reported on them. The encyclopedia is just that: an encyclopedia; it is not a place for company profiles. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * (ec) Please see other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. We can only address what we know about. The two articles you cite are themselves problematic.
 * If no one outside the company can tell about its history, it would not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about companies that meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself. You are free to tell about what your company considers to be its history on your own website. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

How does Wikipedia display captions for audio files?
So I want to display captions for an audio file (you know how certain audio files will display lyrics when you play them?) but since have not found a detailed explanation as to how to achieve this, since all of the tutorials are for videos, and not just regular audio files (like ogg, which is the format i plan to use) I know how to create srt files, I just don't know how Wikipedia displays the captions for audio files. So what's the method that Wikipedia uses to add and display these subtitles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheodoresTomfooleries (talk • contribs) 21:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Does WP:Audio answer your questions? --ColinFine (talk) 22:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No, unfortunately not. The article in question doesn't give much information on how it works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheodoresTomfooleries (talk • contribs) 23:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * See commons:Commons:Timed Text. It should work automatically when the srt file has been created with the right name. For example, commons:File:Jfk berlin address high.ogg has commons:TimedText:Jfk berlin address high.ogg.en.srt. Simply writing  produces:


 * We prefer listen to be used but it doesn't do anything to add the captions.  produces:


 * PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I think I got it! Creating a page for the respective srt file with the matching file name and format will display the captions for the OGG file? So if I were to upload a file like  and then create a corresponding page called , I would see the corresponding subtitles? I think I understand now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheodoresTomfooleries (talk • contribs) 01:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. The OGG file will have a "TimedText" tab to automatically make the right name. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)