Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 January 4

= January 4 =

Trying to Add Voice Module to Infobox person with Infobox musical artists enbedded
Hi, I'm trying to add a voice sample module to the Rocky Kramer article's Infobox, which is a person infobox with a musical artist infobox embedded. The code I'm using is:

But, the module simply doesn't appear. I placed it at the bottom, under the signature line and tried putting it above the signature, but neither worked. Is there some other code or place it needs to go as a result of the dual infobox identity?

Thank you very much for any help you can provide. --Warriorboy85 (talk) 01:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Because there is already a module, your addition needs to be module2.
 * The second parameter you're providing to is not in the correct format. Replace:
 * with
 * with
 * with

—[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 02:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

The edited code: —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 02:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * module2=

Now that I look at it more closely, is not valid, and should be replaced by the correct citation template. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 02:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so very much! I was able to get it working with the initial information you gave me. I would have never figured out to call it module2, although it makes perfect sense. I also learned not to listen to the commons that literally instructed me to use "file:" rather than the "filename:" that was on the template I snagged from another article. That should have been a clue, since it was working properly on the article I got the template from. I tried to use the "series" part of the template for the cite, but it totally rejects it, so I just used a web cite.  Can you think of any reason why the web cite wouldn't be acceptable for WP requirements?  In any case, I really can't thank you enough. This entire help desk are always so helpful. Happy New Year! --Warriorboy85 (talk) 03:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox person shows the  parameter.   is the stand-alone code to display a file. If you want a template to display a file then look at the template documentation, in this case Template:Listen which shows   and says: "filename (Required): the pagename of the media file, without the File: (formerly Image:) prefix". The code   attempts to call a template with name Template:Cite Episode 2.7 but there is no such template so it fails. A template call can only use parameters which are coded in the template. I'm not sure in which template you tried to use   but most templates don't have such a parameter. Template:Cite web does have it. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I think leaving it with Template:Cite web works just fine and as long as there's no requirement to use a series template (which was on the template I originally used, I think it's fine the way it is now. Again, the Help Desk comes through for me. I apologize for my naivete, but rest assured I'm learning ever so slowly, but I'm learning! Happy New Year to all of you! --Warriorboy85 (talk) 11:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I need to know about how to create a Wikipedia Article
Hi Wikipedia Users, I need to know what are needed to create a wikipedia Article. How should I start first? Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desmond Maverick (talk • contribs) 02:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Look at WP:YFA, which will explain the steps needed to create an article, which includes indentifying sources and determining if the subject is notable. There is also a wizard there you can use to create a draft for review.  Creating an article is not easy, it is usually best to start by working to improve existing articles instead.  And lastly, consider why you "need" to create an article.  If you are connected to the subject or are getting paid, you must make disclosures per WP:COI and WP:PAID RudolfRed (talk) 02:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, check out the WP:TUTORIAL and the interactive learning game WP:ADVENTURE RudolfRed (talk) 02:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very Much RudolfRed.I will make sure that I will go through these links provided before creating a Wikipedia Article. Thank You!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desmond Maverick (talk • contribs) 03:03, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * There is only one absolute requirement for an article: the subject must be notable by our definition (WP:N). Do not put any effort into creating an article unless you have first established that your subject is notable by finding reliable sources (WP:RS). An otherwise-perfect article will be deleted if the subject is not notable: see WP:AMOUNT We delete more than 100 articles each day due to lack of notability. See WP:AFD for many depressing examples. However, if the subject is indeed notable, we can help you with any other problems. -Arch dude (talk) 04:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Referring Wikipedia on my website
Hi there! This is Mudassar, my website is regarding best air compressor 2021, while publishing the content on my site, I just for the sake of user that he can find more useful content, referred Wikipedia on the best air compressor page but I noticed that the Wikipedia link is not well place on my site, it's not clickable, kindly help me in that, my website page is https://ecoqueenslander.com/best-air-compressor/ Thanks in advance,

Best regards

Mudassar Ahmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.152.43.46 (talk) 05:35, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * This is the help desk for questions about using or editing Wikipedia itself. Your question is about the format of an HTML page on your site, so you are in the wrong place. The guys over at WP:RD/C may be able to help you. -Arch dude (talk) 05:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I see no attempt to link or mention Wikipedia on that page. This HTML can do it: . PrimeHunter (talk) 08:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

using info in wikipedia in clinic website
Dear all, We are opening a rehab clinic and working on website. My question is that can we use the info in wikipedia in our website. for example, speech therapy info. Can we take all or part of info related to this field and add it into our website?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samialtaj (talk • contribs) 08:55, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You can certainly . Check out Reusing Wikipedia content for the conditions. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * While you are free to reuse our words, you will be responsible for their use from a medical and legal perspective. In this case, this means you will need to read the references our article cites. As a theoretifal example, if one of our anonymous crowdsourcing editors accidentally or maliciously miss-states the dosage or usage of a drug or describes an experimental or discredited treatment as a useful treatment, our article will be (perhaps dangerously) incorrect. Your web site should probably include the list of references. -Arch dude (talk) 16:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hubert Nathan Myers and Clifford Williams
Hi

I've just started an article for Hubert Nathan Myers and Clifford Williams who spent 43 years in prison of murder before being exonerated. Its clear that they are notable enough for Wikipedia and very widely covered in the media (I've only added a small number of the references available). However I don't understand what to call the article to correctly fit in with Wikipedia policies (biographies are not usually my thing). There appear to be a few options:


 * 1) Keep the article about two people (this makes sense logically because their stories are so closely related)
 * 2) Split it into two separate biographies
 * 3) Rename the article to be about the case (I assume this is the actual correct one but no idea what to call the case, The state of Florisa vs ??? maybe).

Which ones fit with Wikipedia's policies?

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 11:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Just a thought, not an answer: the article isn't about the two men. It doesn't even give their dates of birth, and there's no reason why it should. The article is about the miscarriage of justice and subsequent imprisonment. Maproom (talk) 11:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Assuming that you intend to expand it with the details of each case, I think I'd probably go with two separate articles, named for the original cases (Florida v. ...). Alternatively, depending on what you write, it could be more about the Conviction Integrity Unit and their work and other cases as well (or that could be a separate article). Maybe look at articles about other exonerations to see what they did or ask somewhere like WT:LAW? —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 01:59, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Clifford Williams, Jr. has a brief entry on List of wrongful convictions in the United States. You could expand it with details of the crime and exoneration, and add a similar entry for Hubert Nathan Myers.  Here's a good source to add with details of the alleged crime.[]. I could also see a successful Conviction Integrity Unit article, showcasing news by state, including notable exonerations. Michigan, Georgia, New York and Illinois all have information about their Conviction Integrity Units on Wikipedia, which could be compiled. There would probably be less consensus to have an article named about the two men, because of WP:BLP1E that suggests their individual notability is only based on the successful appeal - a single event. But since there's also info about their attempts to get compensation for their wrongful imprisonment [], and eventual success [][], this might survive as something like Williams and Myers wrongful conviction (I can't easily find a case name). TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  20:39, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Spain's daily Covid death toll
Spain is NOT reporting it's daily Covid death figures. For the last 4 days, Spain has reported zero deaths. Then after 4 days it adds 300deaths to it's total figure Spain is being dishonest, therefore Wiki should either leave a BLANK or put zero reportrd deaths for Spain. Salm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.5.136 (talk) 13:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Or they simply took time off due to the holidays. In any event, concerns about that article should be made on its article talk page, where editors that follow that article can examine your concerns. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like they never report on weekends anyway from the graphic in COVID-19 pandemic in Spain, and the days not reported are skipped on the image. Once Spain starts reporting again, someone will update the graphic (which uses a template) appropriately. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * A lot of places report statistics differently, even on a subnational level. In Canada, Alberta publishes almost every day while British Columbia only does Monday–Friday when there are no holidays. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * There have also been delays in many places caused by technology failures, staff being overwhelmed by sudden surges, etc. &lt;anti_political_rant&gt;I wonder if we'll ever return from this place where people are being taught by their leaders to automatically assume bad faith.&lt;/anti_political_rant&gt; —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 02:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Prepration for IELTS exam
I wanna crack it in first attempt with high score band — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:4483:9D50:0:6E:A299:3601 (talk) 14:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. Have you a question about the English Wikipedia? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

my ineptitude
Can someone tell me what I did wrong at the unblock request at the bottom of User talk:Supreme Deliciousness/Archives/2021/January? I just choke whenever I have to subst. —valereee (talk) 15:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I fixed it. You had used an unnecessary template-within-a-template. Specifically, |accept = rather than just putting the unblock reason after the accept pipe.  Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, so the fix really was just as easy as it looked? Huh. I will never truly 'get' subst. I am always just guessing what I'm supposed to do. I have to learn literally every new use of it on a case-by-case basis. —valereee (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The admin instructions on "show" at [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness&oldid=997835838#footer] do seem confusing to me. It says . It looks like you should only replace   but you are supposed to replace the whole  . It just said   before MSGJ added   in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Unblock&diff=next&oldid=917257734]. It was part of a request at Template talk:Unblock from Anomalocaris who added it to a sandbox version in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Unblock/sandbox&diff=934583039&oldid=899917379]. Anomalocaris probably did it to be equivalent to  . But this relies on substituting a default Decline reason here if the admin doesn't write a reason. We have no default Accept reason here so you have to write a reason if you accept. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:27, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * @PrimeHunter and that is exactly what I did -- I put the accept reason into the subst template. And then I looked at the result and thought...if I just remove the subst: and curlies, am I somehow going to keep it from doing whatever it's supposed to do? I think maybe it needs the subst template in there simply to keep the unblock request in the category?  —valereee (talk) 19:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * PrimeHunter, Valereee: Sorry to cause problems. Glad it has been diagnosed. I've put in an edit request to undo the damage. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:14, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * @Anomalocaris, I don't think you caused any problems. An admin who needs extremely clear instructions to prevent her effing up caused the problem. :) Most admins I've seen are using this template perfectly well. :)  —valereee (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Anomalocaris, the parameter value was still displayed so this was a minor issue. A search [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22accept+%3D+%7B%7Bsubst%22+hastemplate%3A%22Unblock+reviewed%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns3=1&searchToken=6no6s1j3klrbyrpknspbkwgwu] currently finds 3 other cases by 3 different admins at User talk:Wikimench100, User talk:BossMayhem250, User talk:Malware in use. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Archiving talk pages
I'm just starting to get into archiving talk pages after years of neglect, but I'm a little confused over how some are done. For example - Talk:Severus Snape has 7 already existing archives, but nothing since 2015, and even looking through the talk page history I can't see where the archiving was done. If I want to start archiving again, how do I do so in these scenarios? Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * that talk page doesn't appear to have automatic archiving set up. That means that all the archives so far have been done manually by other users manually cutting and pasting old discussions. The help page explaining how to archive talk pages is Help:Archiving a talk page. You could either continue to manually archive old discussions, or set up automatic archiving by following the instructions here.  Seagull123  Φ  18:56, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I should perhaps have been a bit clearer - I know how to set up archiving, but acknowledge that there are different methods available, with the most popular being Cluebot and Miszabot. I wanted to know if it was possible to identify what method had been used in the past so I could duplicate it on the necessary pages.
 * However, you've answered the question, so thanks, and I'll set it up for automatic archiving. Chaheel Riens (talk) 19:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I archive my talk page manually. Take a look. You might like my method, you might not, but it's one way to do it.

OPPO X 2021
The OPPO X 2021 rollable concept handset is the latest achievement of OPPO’s R&D in the flexible display and structural stacking, bringing users a more natural interactive experience. The concept handset features OPPO’s three proprietary technologies, including the Roll Motor powertrain, 2-in-1 Plate, and self-developed Warp Track high-strength screen laminate. They lead to a continuously variable OLED display that measures as small as 6.7 inches and as large as 7.4 inches, which allows users to adjust the size of the display based on actual needs. What's interesting is that as the screen size changes, the outer frame and rear glass battery cover will move with the screen to better protect the screen. These innovative technologies not only enable the OPPO X 2021 to expand and retract smoothly but also ensure an excellent display effect with zero creases and zero dents, even when the screen is rolled up. The stepless size adjustment creates more unique experiences for different scenarios. If you watch a video on a screen that does not match the aspect ratio of the video, you will see black bars on the sides of the video. OPPO X 2021 does not have this problem. When playing videos, it automatically adjusts to the optimal screen size based on the 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio to offer you a full-screen immersive viewing experience without black bars. When playing a game in full screen, you can also display message dialogues in an expanded area. For daily use of browsers or news apps, the OPPO X 2021 provides a "parallel space" feature, which displays different app UIs on the screen at the same time, so that you can access the UIs quickly and easily. OPPO X 2021 represents OPPO's exploration into the shape of mobile phone screens. The "scroll screen" is different from foldable screens and is very difficult to make. However, this novel screen form brings more possibilities for the productivity of portable large screens. Although the OPPO X 2021 is only a concept phone, it manifests OPPO's constant exploration and innovation in respect to mobile phones. Future mass-produced models will hopefully bring us new experiences with innovations in form.

Reference
— Preceding unsigned comment added by JCarlosTrujillo (talk • contribs)
 * 1) OPPO Official Website
 * 2) OPPO INNODAY 2020
 * 3) OPPO INNODAY Newsroom
 * This is not the place for article drafts. Did you have a question about using Wikipedia? ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 17:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Where can I find list of Wikipedia logos from 2001?
I know Wikipedia logos gone through some changes. Where can I find list of Wikipedia logos from 2001? Rizosome (talk) 17:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Check out Wikipedia logos and Wikipedia logo RudolfRed (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Is my request of adding info at COVID19 strain not satisfactory?
I requested here

Is my request of adding info at COVID19 strain not satisfactory? Rizosome (talk) 17:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You only just posted that suggestion today. You need to give other editors time to engage in the discussion.  RudolfRed (talk) 17:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Still they didn't respond. What shall I do? Rizosome (talk) 13:28, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is not protected. You could try adding it yourself but some might prefer a non-Indian source for a claim that India did something first to a strain discovered long before in the UK. Your source says: "In a tweet, the ICMR claimed that no country has yet reported successful isolation and culture of the U.K. variant of SARS-CoV-2." A tweet does not sound good for this, and even the Indian source uses the word "claimed". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

What CSS has Wikipedia applied to it infoboxes?
ON MOBILE What CSS has Wikipedia applied to it infoboxes to make text smaller, better space-out and with watermark kind of lines that clearly separate each items?

It's now different than 6month ago.

Is there a way to add a screenshot shot to demonstrate this?

Goodman Andrew (talk)
 * Right now it seems to be this in mayor parts:


 * I don't know what it was before since I don't use mobile. The above rule is overridden when your screen gets wider. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:20, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * where is this CSS applied. I don't see it at 'MediaWiki:Mobile.css' nor 'MediaWiki:Common.css'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodman Andrew (talk • contribs)
 * Looks like the MediaWiki Developers have written this, thoguh I am not sure. The CSS code appears to be from the module named skins.minerva.content.styles, which is a hardcoded MediaWiki file (files editable for the average users start with ext.gadget) and therefore cannot be edited by anyone who doesn't have access to the server. The File Is available under this URL, and also contains a bunch of rules which apply for bigger devices (though you probbably need to format it first). Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * you are pretty knowledgeable. I would be happy if you could provide me step by step on how to make another MediaWiki instance (their infoboxes) to look exactly like it is on Wikipedia MOBILE. Assumed that I have server access. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodman Andrew (talk • contribs)
 * Please sign your posts with . It is required for user notifications to work. I'm pinging Victor Schmidt for you. Can you give a link to the wiki, and say whether it's for the desktop and/or mobile version if they have both? Then we can see what they already have in their CSS (with possible conflicts) and whether they assign a class like   to their infoboxes so CSS can be targeted. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I am not an expert at MediaWiki (the software behind Wikipedia). Without a Wiki to look at, I can only give you the adive that you copy these rules into your wiki version of MediaWiki:Mobile.css, and then use a desktop browser's developer tools to eliminate conflicting rules. You have to check carefully before though (with a desktop browser explicitely requesting the mobile version), because, based on the Module ID, it could be that this is actually embeded in the skin for mobile, which goes by the name minerva, though I cannot tell this for sure due to my limited knowledge. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: I have managed to find the source code for the skin, and looks like these definitions are indeed part of the skin. That means for you, if you have a recent version of the skin (which actually goes by the name MinervaNeue) installed, you only have to worry about giving your infobox the CSS class "infobox" with class="infobox". The good thing about that is that these things can be done with pure wiki editing by making sure the infobox templates on your wiki add that CSS class. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks for all the efforts you've made to help me understand this. We are on MW_1_35 but Wikipedia is on the incremental releases of it - just a bit ahead, so they can afford to test the master branches of these extensions. We tried, but it doesn't work for us, maybe because we're unable to get the master branch for the Minever Skin from the extension distributor - we received a 404. But we were able to download the master branch of MobileFrobtend and it didn't work. Maybe if we were able to get the skin too it would work. I gues we'll have to wait for 1.35.x or 1.36. What would you advised?

Fact check on this user.
This Wikipedian user got 100,000 edit award within 2 years of creation. That's a big achievement in less time. Is it true? Rizosome (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * According to, it is true. And even if not the WP:Service Awards are just for fun and it doesn't matter.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You can see their contributions at Special:Contributions/Sc2353. Things like category editing can result in large numbers of edits in a short time. —[ Alan M 1  (talk) ]— 02:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Convert Wikipedia equations and math symbols to Microsoft Word format
Is there any program that will convert mathematical equations and symbols which appear in Wikipedia articles to mathematical symbols that can be pasted into Microsoft Word? 002Frank (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , since mathematical equations use LaTeX as the base code, you might want to look for Word plugins that allow the user to create equations in the app with LaTeX; according to this article in Nature, if you're using Word 2017 or later, the built-in equation editor should already use LaTeX. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I need two templates
I need one article template tag that requires an article section needs to be replaced. I need another one that tags that the section needs more authority sources. Can anyone paste them here for me so I can use them?--Buzles (talk) 23:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , I assume for a tag that asks for an article section [that] needs to be replaced you're looking for cleanup rewrite (with the second parameter 2 set to ), and for sections that need more authority sources you're looking for more citations needed section. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Dear User:Tenryuu, seeing that it's already been added, that one is okay. The second one I need for something asking for that's an authority on the subject. One that states "This section may need more citations from an authority on the subject." If there is one, please post it here. Many thanks.--Buzles (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Dear, Perhaps expert needed talk and expert needed is close to what you are looking for? But the documentation for those templates mentions other, perhaps better options. --DavidCary (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you DavidCary--Buzles (talk) 23:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)