Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 July 16

= July 16 =

History of Australian Rules Football in Victoria (1859-1900) - AGAIN.
I am still having trouble downloading this page, and hope that you can assist this time. Thanks in anticipation. Albert Isaacs (talk) 00:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Albert Isaacs the page was redirected on 1 July 2021‎, see History of Australian rules football in Victoria (1859–1900) with an endash rather than a hyphen. There is information on how redirects work in Wikipedia at Redirect, including a section on Redirects that replace previous articles.


 * The page history gives the reason it was redirected and access to previous versions. TSventon (talk) 00:25, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * As I can't get to the page, how can I access the history page?Albert Isaacs (talk) 03:01, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Albert Isaacs, that article's history is at this link.Quisqualis (talk) 03:08, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I don't believe that the page should have been removed but couldn't reinstate it. What should be my next move? Albert Isaacs (talk) 03:34, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * - given the concerns raised, you could copy the last version of the article into your sandbox, work on improving it there and then ask at Wikiproject level about restoring the article once the concerns have been addressed. Mjroots (talk) 09:36, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Mjroots: thanks for your welcome advice. I will think about what to do and look at it again in a week or so. Albert Isaacs (talk) 23:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

William Petersen
July 15, 2021 [ Wednesday evening ]  I tried editing the birthdate of William Petersen's father in Wikipedia. The original article listed his father's birthdate as 1901; that would have made him 102 or 103 at the time of his death - I googled "Arthur Edward Petersen" obituary and found 2 articles both confirming that he was born in 1907 and died at the age of 97 on Dec. 18, 2004. But as the article now stands, I have apparently messed it up because I didn't do it properly. HELP!!

My sources  http://vitacollections.ca  "Obituary: Arthur Edward Petersen:  Illinois Newspaper Collections                                and https://ancestors.familysearch.org    "Arthur Edward Petersen (1907 - 2004) - Family Search"

July 15, 2021 Wiki article on William Petersen
I tried changing the birthdate of William Petersen's Father from 1901 to 1907

my sources: 1)   https://vitacollections.ca  "Obituary: Arthur Edward Petersen: Illinois Newspaper Collections    2) https://ancestors.familysearch.org    "Arthur Edward Petersen (1907 - 2004 ) - FamilySearch

As the article now reads it asks for information in the middle of a sentence. I don't know how to change it. I apparently edited it incorrectly. PLEASE HELP.

thank you, 72topper (talk) 01:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * 72topper, you're talking about this edit. After posting the two messages above about it, you undid your own unfortunate (but minor) mistake. Thank you for undoing it. -- Hoary (talk) 02:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Make user box centered
How do I center User WikiProject Women in Green? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 07:29, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If the userbox does not support it natively, you can wrap it in ... tags to center it (see this for more details on the CSS). Regards So  Why  10:40, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 10:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Visual editor
I don't know where else to ask this. Why have edits made using the Visual Editor started being tagged in Welsh on the English Wikipedia? The list of Special:Tags has the top rows in Welsh too. Bazza (talk) 09:14, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not just VE edits. See Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 67. DuncanHill (talk) 09:19, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a known issue for users using en-gb language: Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 67. A quick fix is to change your language to "en - English" (i.e. American English) in Special:Preferences. I believe people are looking at fixing it. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's gone all the way to being what's called a Phabricator entry which basically means that it is a bug ticket for the underlying Wikipedia software and it has gotten quite a bit of discussion there. I don't understand it all, but is basically being discussed by the programmers who can fix it.`Naraht (talk) 11:42, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * "en - English" is not American English, it is an internationalised form that we have recommended for many years now, not least of which is the fact that "en-GB - British English" is so badly maintained. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 09:12, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * What is meant by "internationalised"? Is there somewhere we can see what spelling choices it makes? DuncanHill (talk) 14:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: I've added the Phabricator ticket if anyone's interested in seeing the current status of the problem. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:29, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Good answers, thanks all. Bazza (talk) 13:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Cite Facebook
Would you be able to instruct me how to properly cite a post from Facebook. Would [Joe Smith. Facebook, 13 July 2021] be acceptable, with the word 'Facebook' being used as a link to the post, or would it be better to use the word Facebook and the date? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoishiKatan (talk • contribs)
 * Facebook is not usually considered to be a reliable source, but if you are using it in one of the few circumstances where it might be, information on citing sources can be found at this introductory page or this more advanced page. 331dot (talk) 10:18, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Facebook is generally not recommended as a source. Posts usually require registration to view, and they're primary sources usually. See WP:FACEBOOK. The format you replied with seems fine, but what is specific circumstance in which you want to use facebook? Shushugah (talk) 10:19, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Reference error
Hey Wikipedia Can you fix the error i made at the 2022 MLB draft please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Fixed. It didn't like the fact that you had accessed it in the future. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:35, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

What is a good infobox to use for an article about a type of fabric?
Hi all

I recently wrote Bananatex and I would like to create a good quality infobox for it. Its a fabric made from banana plants similar to polyester. I'm currently using infobox product but it doesn't have a lot of relevant fields. Can someone suggest a good alternative?

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 15:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You could build a custom infobox, like Cotton sidebar --Verbarson (talk) 17:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * John Cummings, as things stand, it doesn't seem that our fabric articles have infoboxes. You can take a look at a few of these articles to see how their information is formatted: fustian, Duck (fabric), peau de soie.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:35, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks both, it doesn't look like there are any good options currently. John Cummings (talk) 09:40, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

How to finish editing the Wikipedia page on Dr. Kilaparti Ramakrishna
Can someone help me finish creating the Wikipedia page on Dr. Kilaparti Ramakrishna. I submitted it for review, but not sure how to finish it, or if it was properly submitted. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RameshR.18.3200 (talk • contribs)
 * You have not actually submitted it, you need to click the submit button in the box at the top. However, if you were to submit it now, it would be rejected quickly, as you only have one source. An article must summarize multiple independent reliable sources, showing how the person meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. Please see Your first article. 331dot (talk) 22:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)