Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 July 19

= July 19 =

Conyers baronets
I have added a  file  which is  far too big - it was from Commons. Please make it the right size and add this underneath it: Sir Christopher Conyers, 2nd Baronet of Horden Hall Thanks so very much - I am not good on this laptop. 114.76.112.84 (talk) 04:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Please fix
Could you please also fix up the recently added  file in this article - it is  way too large. Thanks 114.76.112.84 (talk) 04:11, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

The file added recently is  way too large. Please fix if you are able. It is HUGE!! Thanks 114.76.112.84 (talk) 05:04, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Special:Diff/1034315672. -- zzuuzz (talk) 05:11, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Terminate account
Can you please permanently terminate my account, I no longer want it, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc4020 (talk • contribs)
 * Edits must be attributed to an account, so no, it cannot be deleted. Feel free to abandon the account. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:31, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * see Courtesy vanishing as the closest approximation of an account being terminated. — Bilorv ( talk ) 20:58, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Declining the article
Hi,

I am trying to submit an article and i see same guy keep declining it without any proper reasons. what should i do in this case?

Thanks Shailesh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shailesh tsv (talk • contribs)
 * @Shailesh tsv: You should take the advice to heart, as the draft's tone is unsuitable for Wikipedia, and there aren't sufficient reliable sources that significantly cover the subject. The latter is more serious than the former. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * There aren't enough sources to demonstrate notability. The engineering work is fairly routine.  The unsuccessful candidacy is also routine.  The books are the only avenue to pursue, but I don't see sufficient sourcing to show that they are notable. Also, avoid primary sources, which are sources the subject or his company/professional associations control. See WP:RS. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  21:16, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

2021-22 NBA season article
Can you fix the reference i made please 98.186.54.177 (talk) 13:43, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅ . Thanks for your contribution! Isabelle 🔔 13:47, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

CAN YOU WRITE THIS?
-> Alexander Campbell (and Yasmine Naghdi), Dances at a Gathering of Jerome Robbins

-- UNDER THE PICTURE ON THE PAGE OF, ALEXANDER CAMPBELL (DANCER) - THANKS

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(dancer) -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by BalletJournalist (talk • contribs) 14:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ . Feel free to edit the image caption if you believe it's incorrect (also, avoid typing in all caps). Best regards, Isabelle 🔔 14:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Question about draft
How do I publish my page once its complete in the draft page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krista Watson (talk • contribs) 14:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Krista Watson: Welcome to the Teahouse. If you believe your draft is ready, you can click on the button near the top of the page. Before you do though, please disclose your paid affiliation with the organisation on your user page. You should also take a look at Nick Moyes' referencing for beginners, as your draft would fail to be accepted just by virtue of not having any inline citations within the prose. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Creating a company page
Hi team,

I am trying since past few months read wikepdia help guide, read a lot of online available materials and created an article. I received a message about sppedy deletion of the page.

Can someone guide with a simple process on how to create a valid company page. Its months now and it is painstaking to get over these. Thanks. Appreciate the reply in advance.

Please stay safe take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Se Advika (talk • contribs) 14:19, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * There are no company "pages" on Wikipedia not a single one, Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something or promote a business. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Please also review conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 14:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , there are also (fortunately) no pages in Wikipedia anything like Draft:SolvEdge. Promotional content of that kind is wholly unacceptable here. If you have some paid connection to that company you must disclose it; please do that before making any other edit relating to it. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * How to create a valid Wikipedia article about a company. 1. Pick a company that you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT. 2. Find at least 3-5 sources (such as books, news articles, reports, etc.) that talk about the company but ARE NOT connected to the company (so, no press releases, no company website, no interviews with the CEO, etc.) 3. Summarize what the sources you found have to say about the company. For every sentence in the article, tell us which of those sources is where you learned the information in that sentence. You can do so by following the simplified instructions here. 4. Avoid using language that sounds like you are doing Public relations or marketing for the company.  Avoid "peacock" terms such as "the best", "the leading", "the foremost", "honorable", "excellent", etc.  Avoid providing lists of products and prices, extensive contact information, calls to action, or anything like that. 5. Get someone else to read it and offer you feedback.  You can submit a draft to articles for creation or you can submit an article in mainspace to peer review. 6. Act on the feedback - if the reviewer says you don't have enough sources, find more.  If they say it reads like an advertisement, try to find the advertisey parts and remove them.  ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Now, let's compare my instructions above to the deleted draft about SolvEdge. 1. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you know something about SolvEdge.  Perhaps you work for them.  Perhaps they even hired you to write this article.  This is your first problem. It is very hard to write in a neutral manner when you have that kind of conflict of interest.  2. Every source you cite in the draft comes from the company's website.  Limited use of the company's website is ok per the verifiabilty policy, but the vast majority of the information (at least 75%) in the article should come from independent sources. 3. You've done a decent job of citing - there are some sentences that don't have a citation, but overall it's the fact that you have no independent sources and that the article reads like an ad that is the problem. 4. "Simplifying Healthcare Experiences" sounds like a marketing slogan. "Partnered with . . . to transform their journeys digitally," is the kind of empty, feel-good language that doesn't tell you a single thing about what the company actually does while making it sound like it does good things - this is marketing language.  "The company has associated with Fortune brands and developed great strategic relationships in bringing in the required synergies." Again - what?  At this point, I have read the first paragraph of the article, which is confusingly titled "history" but does not tell me the history of the company and I have no idea what this company does.  The whole article is like that.  It is an advertisement, and not a particularly good one either. 5. You did the right thing by submitting it to AFC for review.  Unfortunately the reviewer (correctly) determined that there was nothing salvageable in that and marked it for deletion as contravening the rules against blatant advertising.  An administrator agreed and deleted it.  Now on to step 6.  At this point, you should act on the feedback, by either starting over with an article about a different company, one which you know absolutely nothing about; or attempting to forget everything you know about this one and write a new article with some substance to it that is drawn from sources that are independent of the company.  Also, if you are employed by the company, you should read this page very carefully and follow the instructions provided there before you try again. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Your very first step, before you write anything at all about any subject, is to determine to your satisfaction that the subject meets our notability guidelines and that other editors are likely to agree with you. If you cannot do this, then do not proceed: See WP:AMOUNT. We can help you fix any other problems. -Arch dude (talk) 18:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I did a quick Google search. Besides the company's appearance in the usual smattering of business directories, I don't see any media coverage that would suggest the company would meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. It's likely WP:TOOSOON. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  19:10, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

WP:PR related
Can I transfer my current PR request to another user (we both are working on the article)? As I want to nominate another article for PR review.  Saha ❯❯❯  Stay safe    14:33, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with how to transfer a peer review request. You could ask at Wikipedia talk:Peer review. Or simply close the request (if it's been unanswered) and have the other person reopen it. TimTempleton <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * To me this is a case for ignore all rules where there's no reason to have a process for this because of its rarity, but it seems reasonable. Asking at Wikipedia talk:Peer review is a good suggestion but if you're feeling bold, I'd recommend just opening the second PR request and explaining the situation (briefly) in the opening statement. Get your colleague to make some kind of edit at one or both PRs saying "I'm taking responsibility for this one". — Bilorv ( talk ) 20:57, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot <b style="border:1px solid black"> <b style="color:#FF0000">Saha</b> ❯❯❯ <b style="color:#0043AF"> Stay safe  </b> </b> 07:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Did I use Template:Who right?
I added two instances of Who to Siberian Finnish. The article talks about Zlobina and Nirvi but never says who they are. Did I use the template correctly or should another template be used instead? J I P &#124; Talk 20:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks right to me, . What a dreadful article! --ColinFine (talk) 20:45, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * They are both mentioned in https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299161205_Evolution_of_the_Non-Initial_Vocalic_Length_Contrast_across_the_Finnic_Varieties_of_Ingria_and_Adjacent_Areas and the names seem to be Vieno Zlobina and Ruben Erik Nirvi (fi:Ruben Nirvi). TSventon (talk) 23:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Well the article certainly never mentioned their first names. But based on your answer, I have added their full names to the article. J I P  &#124; Talk 02:23, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I also translated Ruben Nirvi into English. I haven't found any information about Vieno Zlobina so far. J I P  &#124; Talk 02:53, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know about independent sources, which might be in Finnish, Estonian or Russian (Виено Злобина), but you can download a free copy of Vieno Zlobina's memoirs from https://shop.migrationinstitute.fi/product/195/their-ideals-were-crushed-a-daughters-story-of-the-sade-commune-in-soviet-karelia. TSventon (talk) 04:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Photo question
Hello. I'm staff at the Embassy of the Republic of Korea in London and was trying to change the photo of our new ambassador.

Title: Embassy of South Korea, London Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_South_Korea,_London

I'm trying to upload the ambassador's photo on the Embassy page but the page didn't let me upload it showing a message as below.

'''We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons.'''

The photo is the same photo people can find on the Embassy website so I don't understand what the problem with this photo is. Would you be able to help me what I need to do to upload the photo?

Thanks in advance.

HJ --Koreanembinuk (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem with the photo is that you are not answering the upload wizard's questions in such a way that it can determine the photo's copyright status. I assume you are not the photographer who took the photograph.  Some governments (like the United States Federal Government) release all images created by the government into the public domain, but I don't know if South Korea does that or not.  Basically, all images uploaded to Commons must be released under a free copyright license. You need to 1. have the right to release the photo 2. do so under the appropriate license 3. Answer the upload wizard's questions in such a way that it believes you have the rights to the photo and have agreed to release it under an appropriate license. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 21:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Koreanembinuk: In addition to the advice that gave you, please note that your username would contravene Wikipedia's username policy. What you can do is either request a name change for this account, or abandon it and start a new one. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:18, 19 July 2021 (UTC)