Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 July 30

= July 30 =

Jimfbleak's Actions
I am concerned about unfair user actions on Wikipedia. The administrator's rights of user Jimfbleak is in question. This user deletes the pages with the descriptive content marked by someone else as promotional or those contested against deletion. Are there any remedies to revoke admin permissions from this user? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikizeda (talk • contribs)
 * No idea what's going on here, but perhaps might be able to chime in. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * we have not way to respond to non-specific accusations. Please identify specific problems or issues, with links. -Arch dude (talk) 02:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * They're taking umbrage to the deletion of Unified Electronic Card as G11 by Jimfbleak. They're presently complaining in -en-help about it as well. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 02:09, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikizeda will have even more to complain about now since before coming here I'd blocked the account as an undeclared paid editor. The draft was an almost totally unsourced text dump, and the three sources it did have included ru-wiki and the company website. It was recreated without change and deleted by . In the circumstances, I'm happy for anyone with admin access to review the deletion and the block, and reverse either if they feel I've got it wrong. Also happy for this to go to ANI if that's appropriate Jimfbleak - talk to me?  08:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I could give Wikizeda even more to complain about by salting the title. Mjroots (talk) 14:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , good idea, but I thought I'd wait for a bit to see if there are any socks Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, I declined their UTRS ticket and left my opinion about the G11'd article on their talk. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 22:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Miss Grand and Nicole Cordoves
How do I connect these two pages and highlight the name Nicole Cordoves and Miss Grand (2016 runner-up)
 * I've added a wikilink from Miss Grand to Nicole Cordoves. The Cordoves article does not mention Miss Grand (and seems a bit thin on the independent sources needed to establish notability). Maproom (talk) 07:41, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Process of adding parameters to infobox
Hi,

I would like to add parameters to an infobox, specifically I want to add philosophies familiar with: to an infobox about dostoevsky. Would the only way to do this be creating my own infobox and gaining popularity?
 * The article on Fyodor Dostoevsky uses Template:Infobox writer. It will be difficult to get a parameter "philosophies familiar with" added to that template. I guess you could create a new template with a name like "Infobox philosophical writer"; is that what you're looking for? Maproom (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help with references to Wikipedia entry USS Sterlet (SS-392)
I inserted new information and attributed the information to the correct reference source. I believe I used source editing. The reference should come first on the reference list, as in [1]. However, in the published list the number appears as [7] and the reference is listed [7] and last of 7 rather than [1] and first of 7. I am not sure how to correct this. Can you help me? Thank you.Folkrelic (talk) 06:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC) folkrelic
 * This is normal; no change is needed. For example, look at the Apollo 15 article, today's "featured article" - there, footnote numbers 1 to 18 are in the infobox at the top right, and the first footnote in the main text is number 19. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * (more) There's another explanation in the Teahouse archives. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:45, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * for info: per WP:MOSSHIP, ship names are always in italics, wherever they occur in a article. Mjroots (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * for info: per WP:MOSSHIP, ship names are always in italics, wherever they occur in a article. Mjroots (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Link usage
Sir, I use wikipedia from many years and to be true its a profitable site for me. We can acquire each and every knowledge but past few days I mistakenly did something for which I cannot access to other words little information on the same page. Let me say clearly what problem I am facing, Actually before when we just move our pointer to a word then a mini information about the word we used to get but mistakenly I did something that it won't show any more.

I want to know the procedure to unlock that once again as it was much more profitable to know about many different topics related to a single one. Raj Aditya 25 (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC) Aditya
 * Click "Edit preview settings" at the bottom right. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Kenneth William Bates
Hello, I am the Personal Assistant of Mr. Bates and he wishes to rectify some errors in the wikipedia pages about himself. I am unable to do do this. If I provide the facts to be replaced please could someone edit for me ? thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.29.29 (talk)
 * Hello. After first making the required paid editing declaration and reviewing conflict of interest, you are welcome to make a formal edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed, preferably sourced to independent reliable sources if possible. I'd suggest creating an account to do these things, but you are not required to. 331dot (talk) 08:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Help
Hello, @User:ItsSkV08 continuously undoing edits in Salem Spartans Support staff section - Content Social media : Dhanesh , Reason given is promoting myself, even it is not myself , as many of times reported the user , You can check here for authenticity, you have to take any action to preventing from vandalism. Dhaneesh 🙃  Ram 15:08, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , I appreciate that the content you are adding is supported by that link, but we wouldn't normally list all information from a company/team website on our article - we just summarise the important points. Having the head coach there makes sense, especially since we have an article about them, but listing people like their social media manager is excessive. I've removed that, and fixed up a bunch of other stuff while I was there. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Offensive content
If an IP editor inserts 674 bytes of (offensive) text with an edit summary of "fixed typo", diff shouldn't this alert one of the anti-vandal bots or patrollers? I've removed it. It was a one-off edit from this IP so probably no point in blocking them, but I can't help thinking that text shouldn't have stuck around for so long.--Shantavira|feed me 12:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is indeed disturbing. I've seen it before, but it's quite rare. All I can think is that that page happens not to have many watchers, and none of them happened to see it (bad luck). It averages 5 views a day, which is low but... let's see, about 150 views since the vandalism. Many of those viewers probably saw the vandalism, but I guess they didn't know how to fix it or even know they can, or didn't care. that's more common, but still, more bad luck. No organization is perfect. If this starts to happen more often, that'd be a canary in the coal mine. Herostratus (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, among the pages we have at Wikipedia, some bit of vandalism goes unnoticed.  It is unfortunate, but it is not a sign of impending doom for Wikipedia.  We do only have  active users, and while that may seem like a lot, we don't always catch everything.  The important thing is not to lament the fact that we are not 100% perfect as an organization, but instead to just be committed to doing the best one can, as an individual, to be useful where we can.  -- Jayron 32 12:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think they are more suggesting that there be a filter to flag up things with a large change when the edit summary is "typo" or similar. However, Jayron is right - vandalism is sadly a daily occurrence on wikipedia. Sometimes they get caught immediately, sometimes not. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This is the kind of thing that Stiki used to be good at finding - stuff slips through the net, but it used a couple of logs to show you questionable diffs from the last few weeks and months. I miss it. Girth Summit  (blether)  14:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * For info, I've done a REVDEL on that edit under RD3 - purely disruptive material. IP has been warned. Mjroots (talk) 14:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * My main concern if it's libel. Yes a filter to flag up things with a large change when the edit summary is "typo" or similar. If someone wants to put in a request that'd be great (I can't do it). Herostratus (talk) 21:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

2021 in albums
Can you fix the colspan row i made please 98.186.54.177 (talk) 14:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I have corrected~ ItsSkV08 (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

The draft was rejected
Hi there, I'm very confused about a draft I was working on Draft:Sagami Rubber Industries. When I asked for help on how should I resubmit it there is no button so an editor said, The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. I was not the author of this draft so is that mean I can't recreate a new draft with new content about the same subject. Looking forward, thanks RASSIOPEIA (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, . As you say, the draft was rejected (after being declined four times) by . I see that you have added some sources: it would be best to discuss this with -Zai-, and see if you can persuade them that the subject is notable and the article recoverable. (I have pinged them, so they should see this answer). --ColinFine (talk) 19:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No, I failed to ping . Doing it now. --ColinFine (talk) 19:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The article looks like a straightup advert which is contrary to the purpose and policies of Wikipedia. It has been reviewed 4 times and then rejected as wasting the reviewers time and for being an advert.   scope_creep Talk  02:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello,, my question is can recreate draft with new content from WP:NPOV? or the rejected drafts are not allowed to be recreated? RASSIOPEIA (talk) 05:35, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You can certainly continue to work on the draft, now that most of the advertising cruft has been removed. To have any hope of being accepted, the final version will need both to be in neutral tone and, importantly, to meet WP:NCORP based on reliable sources that are independent of the company (not press releases) and in depth. If you can't find such sources, you are wasting your time. At present, I note that even the citation for the founding date fails verification (i.e. is completely spurious). You need to check that all the references do indeed verify the facts stated. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:41, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

How to cite Biography Age & Birth Place
I want to publish article on research scholar. His Birth and Birth place is on LinkedIn profile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ombhurbhuwa (talk • contribs) 18:50, July 30, 2021 (UTC)
 * Greetings, and welcome. With regard to the particular question, LinkedIn is not generally considered to be a reliable source for Wikipedia articles, because the content therein is user-generated and is not independently verifiable.  But really, if you wish to create a new article, there are bigger questions to be asked, as creating an article from scratch is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia, especially for a brand-new editor.  Please see WP:YFA for general guidance on article creation.  The biggest question is whether the subject is notable enough (as Wikipedia defines it) to qualify for an article here.  Is the research scholar the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the topic?  Please refer to the general notability guidelines, the guidelines on academic figures, and most importantly the policies covering biographies of living persons.  If you can find three good reliable independent sources specifically about the subject (not passing mentions, not press releases, not generated by the subject themselves) which help meet these guidelines, then feel free to create a draft and submit it via the Articles for Creation process where experienced editors can review the article and determine whether it is suitable for the encyclopedia.  If good sources do not exist, then there is literally nothing upon which a proper encyclopedia can be based.
 * Feel free to ask further questions. Thanks, and happy editing! --Finngall talk  20:13, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Is there a guide and/or template for user page organization?
I want to know some tips and/or templates for creating a user page, but am having trouble figuring out the codes for it. Is there a guide or template out there for creating a good user page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurritoQuesadilla (talk • contribs)
 * , check out the User page design center. It's old and not kept up to date, but there are still ideas there worth exploring. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 20:40, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's a trick that works for articles and will also work for user pages. Look at several user pages. Keep looking until you find one whose format you like, and then look at its source code, or even copy its source code and modify it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You might consider thanking the user you copied from on that user's talk page. Depending on how closely you follow the form of the other user's page, you may be getting close to needing to disclose the copying on your own user page's talk page to satisfy the CC-BY-SA license of the other user's page, but that's perfectly reasonable and acceptable. After you have a fairly nice page, you can keep looking at other user pages and incorporate useful ideas from them. BUT REMEMBER: your user page is a place for you to tell others about you as an editor here at Wikpedia: see WP:USERPAGE. It's not a place for a generic resume, and it's not a blog. -Arch dude (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciate it. One thing specifically as I had tried looking at the source code and don't understand it- how do you make userboxes go towards the right of your userpage and stay in a vertical line?

Also of course. I'll be sure to make everything I say in my userpage Wikipedia-relevant only.


 * if you can provide a link to a specific page, we can try to explain the magic used on that page. -Arch dude (talk) 00:19, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Abelmoschus_Esculentus&oldid=850211137 This one please. BurritoQuesadilla
 * I haven't taken the particular example you mentioned but I implement Userboxes in the standard way, which gives the "to the right in a vertical column" outcome that you seek. The code looks like this:

...and so on...
 * (without the nowiki tags) Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:27, 31 July 2021 (UTC)