Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 July 5

= July 5 =

Changing Wikidata
How do I change the Wikidata listing of an article?

I am reasonably certain the English article Buddhist cuisine ought to link to the Japanese page 精進料理 (shojin ryori) since the subject matter is essentially the same.

However, the English article Buddhist cuisine is listed under one Wikidata entry Buddhist cuisine (Q1326339) while the Japanese article 精進料理 (shojin ryori) is listed under another Wikidata entry shōjin ryōri (Q56317246). I'm pretty sure the Japanese one should be listed under "Buddhist cuisine" since it deals with vegetarian Buddhist cuisine more generally.

Anyone know how to do this or if I need to start a discussion somewhere? Cheers, Fredlesaltique (talk) 01:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Looking in Wikidata, I see that the Spanish & French Wikipedias have separate articles for "Buddhist cuisine" and "shojin ryori". I suggest you start a discussion at Wikidata to ask for assistance. Good luck!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:13, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Yeah I saw the Spanish and French articles too, which is probably why the extra "shojin ryori" entry is there. I'll see what I can do then. Cheers, Fredlesaltique (talk) 02:57, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , I would expect Wikidata to advise that is up to individual projects to choose which item to link their articles to. You could ask about changing the ja link at ja:Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers. TSventon (talk) 09:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * When you say "projects" do you mean each language's Wikipedia? Fredlesaltique (talk) 03:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , yes I could have been clearer, but I meant different language Wikipedias plus other things like Commons and Wikisource, which admittedly don't have articles. TSventon (talk) 03:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Create wikipedia link in Chinese page and link to English page with a different text
I would like to create a link with the text "Institute of Physics" in the following Chinese wikipage but the link will be linked to the English version of Institute of Physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Physics), how do I do that? Wyattwong (talk) 10:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC) https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%81%96%E8%A8%80%E4%B8%AD%E5%AD%B8#%E5%AD%B8%E8%A1%93%E5%8F%8A%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E7%95%8C — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyattwong (talk • contribs) 02:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Since your question seems to be about editing an article on the Chinese Wikipedia, please ask your question on the Chinese Wikipedia. Good luck!  GoingBatty (talk) 03:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * He's asking how to do interwiki links; that we can answer here. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 03:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Help:Interwiki linking explains how you can create an interwiki link. Whether you should depends on the guidelines of the Chinese Wikipedia.  GoingBatty (talk) 04:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I got confused with the information in Help:Interwiki linking, the tricky part is NOT only do I need to reference an English wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Physics) from a Chinese wiki page, but also the English wiki link is "Institute_of_Physics" which is different from the display text of "Institute of Physics" (without underscore).Wyattwong (talk) 10:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Underscores are treated as spaces, and if you use interwiki linking you can forgo that. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * for info: the zh-Wiki page linked above is linked to Sing Yin Secondary School. Mjroots (talk) 08:00, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

How do I remove myself from a user category
Way too many user categories are automatically added from userboxes -_-;; --Serilly (talk) 04:08, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * On your user page, you can add true inside the userbox template. GoingBatty (talk) 04:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Some userboxes don't implement . You can try wrapping those in Suppress categories. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:53, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Serilly (talk) 21:42, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Writing English articles with French sources
Hi,I would like to know if it is possible to write an article in English with French sources? Thank you in advance for your answer and have a nice day! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aqw2399 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * See Verifiability. In brief, there is nothing in policy preventing non-English-language sources being cited in an article, or even being the only sources cited. In practice though, it can sometimes be troublesome - though probably less so with French sources than with other languages contributors are less likely to be familiar with. Whatever sources you use, you will first have to show that an article meets Wikipedia notability criteria, and doing that would probably go more smoothly if an English-language source or two is provided too. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

new entry
hello

how would I go about adding a new entry to wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidstoller (talk • contribs)
 * Hello. Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. New users who dive right in often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as something they spent hours on is mercilessly editing and deleted by others. I don't want you to have bad feelings, so I would suggest that you first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial is also helpful.
 * If you still want to attempt to create a new article now, please read Your first article and go to Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 09:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Abdullah Sulaiman Al Rajhi
the draft i think is ready to be approved i know that the content is short but it is sufficient and contains all the important information about the personality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Abdullah_Sulaiman_Al_Rajhi
 * , you have resumbmitted the draft for review. Posting about it here will do nothing to speed the review, and may be counterproductive, as it makes it look as if you are trying to game the system. But since you ask: it's not about the content, but about the sources. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. It does not appear to me that you have included even one source which meets those criteria, and so your5 draft does absolutely nothing to establish that he is notable. --ColinFine (talk) 11:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * These are mostly directory listings and the like; they are not articles about this person. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:35, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Referencing errors on British philosophy
Reference help requested.

On my Talk page you wrote: "On the British philosophy page, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=705436455 your edit] caused a broken reference name (help) . ([ Fix] | [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&preload=User:ReferenceBot/helpform&preloadtitle=Referencing%20errors%20on%20%5B%5BSpecial%3ADiff%2F705436455%7CBritish philosophy%5D%5D Ask for help])" After looking at the refs you provided though, I am unable to see/find the error. Would you highlight for me the exact text that is 'broken' please, so that I can fix it (assuming this is still relevant).

Thanks, LookingGlass (talk) 11:13, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The message is from years ago by a bot; the issue is presumably fixed by now, as I don't see the page being categorised with any reference errors. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The bot was referring to.
 * This citation from is broken – there isn't any long-form citation in the article to match that  template.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:35, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This citation from is broken – there isn't any long-form citation in the article to match that  template.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:35, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I fixed the September 2015 error, caused by the use of bloody-awful Harvard references. DuncanHill (talk) 11:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you DuncanHill, but wouldn't it be better to change the reference to cite book format for consistency with the reference style of the rest of the article? TSventon (talk) 11:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead, I won't stop you. DuncanHill (talk) 12:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you sorting it out. I'd like not to repeat the mistake I made but don't understand what it was. Is there, for instance, something I can look out for in the references I use? LookingGlass (talk) 19:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * - you didn't make the mistake which I fixed, it was made by an IP here - they used Template:Sfnp but didn't define the reference in the reference section. They had copied the reference from the Anselm of Canterbury page, which is where I found the information I needed to mend it.
 * In your edit you introduced a named reference but didn't define, but you then removed it - see your comment on the talk page. DuncanHill (talk) 20:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

How fast does a new article get published?
I submitted a new article a month ago and didn't get any feedback. How long does it take to get feedback? Reimot (talk) 12:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You created a draft, but did not actually submit it for review. I have added the appropriate information to the draft to allow you to submit it. Be advised that while not forbidden, writing about yourself is strongly discouraged per the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Once submitted, it could be several months before a volunteer can review it. 331dot (talk) 12:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Original Economics
My page Original Economics does not show although I published it. Please help. Original Economics (talk) 15:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC) original economics
 * I don't know where you are looking and can't see it. Your contributions are listed at Special:Contributions/Original Economics.  Among those, User:Original Economics is not an appropriate use for a user page, so is likely to be deleted soon.  If you intend your sandbox to be an article eventually, you need to read the advice at WP:Your first article.  --David Biddulph (talk) 15:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks an awful lot like you are drafting a paper, as opposed to an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia does not host original research or opinion papers. See the five pillars of Wikipedia for a succinct guide to what Wikipedia is and how it works. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Password
hi, i made my account in dec and i am trying to log in now and its not working. keep giving me the error of wrong password or id...

also i tried to reset the password but i haven't received any email fron you guys. i need help my email address is which i use to make my Wikipedia account

thanks
 * You'll want to make sure that your caps lock is not on and that you are typing everything exactly correct; it sounds silly, but those are common errors. If your email does not work and you cannot remember your password, you will need to create a new account and identify it as a successor account to your old one. 331dot (talk) 16:41, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Dates in citations
When citing an article that was updated after its publication, which date should I put in the date parameter? For example, see "An Exposé Has Congress Rethinking How to Tax the Superrich", which was published on 9 June 2021 and updated on 16 June. Kleinpecan (talk) 18:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Looking at the documentation for cite and cite web, I think the family of cite templates have the orig-date parameter, which could be what you're looking for (doesn't support any automatic date formatting, though). — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:08, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * the goal of a citation is to permit a reader to verify the cited information. Unless the update changed the cited information, there is no particular reason to cite the older non-updated version. If the update did indeed change something and the change is important, you probably need to explain that in the article text or in a short sentence added to the citation (e.g. "initially reported as an accident but later under investigation as a homicide"), and find a way to cite the two versions separately if at all possible. -Arch dude (talk) 00:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

File:Bronze plaque of Kate Baker.png
It has been pointed out to me that File:Bronze plaque of Kate Baker.png is actually in the public domain and I was being overly cautious. How do I change the non free use info template to a more appropriate one? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 18:34, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I would suggest re-uploading it as a free file at Commons, the upload wizard there will guide you through it, then this local copy can just be deleted per WP:F8. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I had the same issue with file:WCF signature.JPG - I thought it was still in copyright in the US, but it turned out it was ineligible for copyright in the US. In the UK, its status was copyright expired, having been eligible for copyright originally. The solution was to upload at Commons with the exact same file name, and delete on en-Wiki. Mjroots (talk) 06:28, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

adding a line to an existing entry
I attempted to add a line to the page "Bristol-Myers Squibb Awards" however after hitting publish, I received a message saying the entry was not saved. How can I add to this page?Joea2021 (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It sounds like a temporary glitch, try again. 331dot (talk) 22:19, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Could've also been an edit filter. If it happens again, please tell us the exact message you got. – Rummskartoffel 22:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)