Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 June 10

= June 10 =

Help with the constant deletion of the page "Yewande Sadiku"
Hi, I need help with putting up an article on the subject "Yewande Sadiku" without it being deleted again for reasons that I don't think are fair.

One of the reasons I have received is "copyright infringement" and I wasn't aware a blog copied my content word for word and even after trying to contact them for permission just to et the article up, I received no response from them.

Another reason is it not being notable enough, which I would like to disagree with because she has been involved in a couple of things with references to back up, showing that she's notable.

The last occurrence was the article getting locked for reasons such as "putting up a content that is similar to the previously deleted" even when I have changed my content entirely and severally with fresh information and no obvious sign of similar content. Please help with writing it better and making Wikipedia more suitable for readers. Thanks.RedCard3 (talk)
 * First of all, I am not an administrator, so I cannot check deleted revisions, but lets start by talking about how you see the story. If I understand you correctly, you want to tell me this:


 * 1)  create Yewande Sadiku (log entry
 * 2) The text appears on
 * 3) The Wikipedia article is deleted as a copyright infringment of said site (log entry
 * 4)  create a new version (log entry)
 * 5) On December 21st, its deleted after  (log entry)
 * 6)  creates a new version (log entry)
 * 7) On May 22, its deleted both under G4 and G12 (log entry)
 * 8) On June 5th, another version gets deleted (log entry), without creation logs
 * This brings up two questions:


 * 1) Why are there several accounts involved in article creation? Are they all you?
 * 2) Do I have all important timestamps? (In particular, was this text published elsewhere where I haven't found it yet?)
 * Note that this is a complicated question. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * RedCard3, I would recommend reading Help:Your first article, Notability and Close paraphrasing if you have not done so already. Yewande Sadiku shows a deletion history with reasons and suggests "If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below." To avoid the article being deleted you need to resolve the notability and copyright issues. If you disagree with multiple administrators on notability and copyright policies, you probably don't sufficiently understand the policies. TSventon (talk) 08:56, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * corrected a spelling mistake in my original post Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:33, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How to create columns that order list items correctly on mobile
I've looked over the various column templates but if a way to do this exist I've missed it. What i would like to do is create a list of items in 2 columns that are ordered like this: 1 | 2    3 | 4     5 | when the display is wide enough to support 2 side by side columns but maintains it's order when the page is adjusted for thinner mobile browsers. Desired mobile behavior: 1    2     3      4        5   What happens: 1    3     5     2     4 If anyone knows how to mark this up I would really appreciate the knowledge. Gamer9678 (talk) 07:32, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * does Columns-list not work? That seems to describe the intended behaviour - spread out into multiple columns of minimum width colwidth if there is space, otherwise single-column; all the while preserving the specified order of the items. (This is the same behaviour as in, e.g., reflist). Looks like it is supposed to work on mobile. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to for me. For 1 I'm having issues using templates inside of it (see desktop test here), where the uneven column length causes one of the templates to be cut in half. It also doesn't seem to solve my ordering problem. Columns-list behavior is to order its items like so:

1 | 4   2 | 5    3 |
 * which will correctly convert for mobile. If I manually arrange the items to get my desired left to right reading order on desktop the list will be out of order on mobile the same as using col-begin. See current revision of Softball at the 2020 Summer Olympics. Gamer9678 (talk) 16:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * oh, I see. Misread the desired order. Yeah, that's somewhat non-standard - I don't think there is a template that can, in essence, put every n-th entry into column n. You may be out of luck there. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I find the content of a delated page
I painstakingly posted a biography in my sandbox... It was flagged for deletion, before I could back it up to my computer it was deleted. Kindly help me find a away to copy its content to enable me edit it for correction and republishing.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleonu (talk • contribs) 09:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves and what they do or post your resume. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources say about you, not what you want to say about yourself- showing how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person.  If you must have the text, a copy can be emailed to you if you add your email address to your Preferences(do not post it publicly, for your protection), but you will need to make radical changes to have any chance of it being accepted. Please read Your First Article and the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 09:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your response Talk:331dot. Well noted and Fair. I will read up Wikipedias the definition of a notable person - I presume I will qualify based on my career and outcome of my engagements. However, until then kindly email the content of the deleted biography to my email address - (redacted) (No spaces). It will be much appreciated.

Thank you.
 * As I said, do not post your email address publicly, please add it to your Preferences(under "user profile") and enable others to send you email through Wikipedia(also in Preferences). 331dot (talk) 10:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How to request infobox revision?
I believe that changes to the current format of Infobox professional wrestler is necessary. I have detailed my suggestions extensively on the talk page as of three days ago. I am aware that there is a way to officially request an infobox revision. How do I do so? Or alternatively, is it too early to request this revision and if so, when is the appropriate time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holidayruin (talk • contribs)
 * If you check that talkpage, your changes are currently being discussed to gain WP:CONSENSUS on whether to do them. Feel free to participate in the discussion there. But they likely won't be implemented until people agree they're needed, which may take time- Wikipedia has no deadlines for things to be done urgently. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:23, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Vicky a common Finnish male name?
I believe a cited source in Kake (comics) is wrong. The article states: "In early appearances Mike was named Vicky, a common Finnish male name." According to the article's writer User:Morgan695, the cited source says: "He tried out a blonde man named Vicky – a common male name in Finland – who was quickly renamed Mike."

Well I am Finnish myself and speak Finnish natively and can say that Vicky has never been a common name in Finland, least of all male. The writer of the source was probably thinking of Viki, which is a somewhat common Finnish male name, but spelled it out wrong. This can be supported by discussion over at the Finnish Wikipedia (in Finnish): fi:Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (kysy vapaasti).

What should be done to the article? Does the source have to be cited as it is, or should the article be fixed so that it mentions the writer was thinking of Viki, not Vicky? J I P &#124; Talk 16:05, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps use sic to indicate that it is a misspelling in the source. RudolfRed (talk) 17:15, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I added Vicky [sic] to let editors know the writer of the source probably meant "Viki" instead of "Vicky". J I P  &#124; Talk 20:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I would expect the quoted author to be familiar with the work they were introducing, so the character name is likely to be correct. Perhaps it means "a blonde man named Vicky – a common male name [spelt Viki] in Finland". Perhaps if this thread is copied to the article talk page, a better source may turn up eventually. TSventon (talk) 21:07, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Issue uploading Image
Hello,

I am the owner of the artwork and I am trying to upload it to a post though I keep getting told " We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons."

The file is in good standards, is the correct information, and I own the rights to upload it. Why can't I get this too work>

Also when I clicked on the links this error message gives me it just brings me to a the home page and not the info that I need to look up to fix this issue. I can't even shoe you the message because the nI try to attach it I'm just told the same issue basically

Please help and thank you, Ray
 * Also asked at the Teahouse. Please only ask in one place. RudolfRed (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How to add historical photographs that are in public domain
I am editing an existing article on a 19th century historical person. There are numerous copies and some original photographs of him and his work, which are available in many published works, copies or originals in the possession of his descendants (from whom I have permission to make use of any or all historic pictures concerning their ancestor), in several archives, and displayed in museums. Some may be originals, but nobody claims "ownership" of these. Apart from a single photo attributed to a small school museum, I cannot find any on Wikipedia Commons. Wikipedia editorbot would not let me add any of these pictures. How to get through this "great wikifirewall"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackayfan (talk • contribs) 19:14, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * A couple of notes: 1) When you want to upload something as public domamin, make sure that you actually select a public domain license - is not among them. 2) The more interesting question is, when was the phot first published and by whom? In general, I reccommend that you use the upload wizard on Commons (for public domain and freely licensed files) or our upload wizard (for files only useable under fair use) Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:38, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How to add more information in occupation column of bio infobox
I want to add some more information in occupation column(bio infobox ) of Thomas F. Frist Jr. article. I want to add "physician" along with "businessman". How to deal with this problem?2409:4064:A9F:AC77:0:0:1458:48A0 (talk) 19:30, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Try Template:Hlist: businessman · physician . TSventon (talk) 21:26, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I have added "physician" in occupation column but still the problem exists. Please have a look.2409:4064:2E04:8CA1:0:0:F24A:D40D (talk) 04:12, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * with this edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

My Wikipedia page disappeared
I hired to help me create my wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_A._Smolka

The page was up and running a few weeks ago, but now when I try to go to it, I get the message:

The article that you're looking for doesn't exist.

Can you please help me understand what is going on? Did I get ripped off by Tamsin. Please find below the original email she used to contact me about using her services. BTW, I emailed her about this and have not heard back from her.

Thanks, Scott Smolka Scottsmolka (talk) 22:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I checked your Wikipedia declined draft;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Scott_Smolka

I am an experienced Wikipedian. I will do online research and rewrite the content in an encyclopedic tone, format the draft according to Wikipedia guidelines and get it approved, I will forward the final draft for you to review before submitting it.

Kindly reply for more details.

Best regards,


 * You got scammed. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 22:32, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * More specifically, they blanked the draft or otherwise requested it be deleted under the G7 speedy criterion (author requests deletion) are a user who's been banned from Wikipedia. There is a reason we strongly discourage paying for a Wikipedia article, and situations like this are why. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 22:35, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't trust anything they said, including their name and gender. They broke the policies Sockpuppetry and Paid-contribution disclosure. The article was deleted when their abuse was discovered. I'm an administrator and can view deleted pages. They made miminal improvements to your draft and used an account against policy to create it directly in the encyclopedia without submitting it for approval. They probably knew a submission was likely to be declined like your draft. If they told you it had been approved, they lied. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Basically,, you should never need to pay someone to create an article about you. If you are notable by Wikipedia's standards, it is very likely an article about you will be written. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. Ideally, one should never ask for, or even wait for, a Wikipedia article about oneself. Wikipedia editors create articles about topics they are interested in themselves, which has no relation to what their subjects think. Ideally, an article about Scott Smolka is no different than an article about water. Both are topics some Wikipedia editor (not necessarily the same one) is interested in. J I P  &#124; Talk 01:41, 11 June 2021 (UTC)