Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 May 18

= May 18 =

St Monica's College Page
Hi all,

Just wanting to know how to make a page unable to be edited or protected. I from the Promotional team from the College who has updated the Wikipedia page. However, I have seen that people can still edit and change the updated version.

Is there anything I can do to ensure that my page remains protected?

Many thanks,

St Monica's College Promotions Team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PromotionsandEvents (talk • contribs)
 * Pages are protected for reasons like vandalism, not for preventing others from editing them due to some arbitrary criteria. Ironically, you would be considered one of the people who shouldn't directly edit the article. I suggest you abandon this account as your username violates the username policy and declare your paid relationship with St Monica's College on an account that adheres to said username policy; you may use paid to do so. Any changes you want to make should go through the edit request process. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I should also point out that articles don't belong to anybody. Wikipedia is a collaborative project that relies on consensus when content disputes occur. You have not to post promotional material on here, which goes against Wikipedia policy. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:52, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, . It might help if you understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. Incidentally, I think your user name falls foul of our user name policy in that it suggests that the account is shared by different people. Please change it. --ColinFine (talk) 12:53, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: User has been renamed to and has agreed to use the edit request system. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:45, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Olivia Rodrigo -- adding main image
Hello, I am looking at Olivia Rodrigo's page, and I think it's a good time to add a picture of her in her summary... I'm not sure how to do that... I found this one (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTYxODRmNzItMGFkNS00Mzk4LTk0NTMtYjdiYjgwYWNhODQ2XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNTg1MDY4NjQ@._V1_.jpg) so I'm wondering if I could be aided with this... thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kr!shna s!s! (talk • contribs)
 * I'm afraid you can't add that particular image. Wikipedia has much stricter standards regarding copyright than, for example, social media. Images must be released under a free license or you must have a valid fair use rationale. For images of living people it is assumed that as long as they are alive it is possible to get a free image at some point, so chances are slim that there is a rationale that would be accepted. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * By default, the answer is no, as images are presumed to have a copyright on them, which Wikipedia can't use (unless the image manages to meet all of the fair use criteria). — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Someone has uploaded an improperly licensed image of Olivia Rodrigo to Wikimedia Commons, where it is tagged for deletion. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  04:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There's also now a copyvio image on en.wiki, which I've also nominated for deletion. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Table help
I just made a fix to Gregson Maluma the close a table, which got the article references to be outside the table as they should be. But the header of the table itself is still messed-up. MB 03:41, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I fixed it, after finding another article with a similar table. The formatting seems needlessly complex... -- John of Reading (talk) 07:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Reliable Source??
Good Day and Hello, I find myself at a conundrum, and hence I once again turn to 'here' for guidance. Whilst browsing WP:CBM I happened upon this page St._Xavier%27s_High_School,_Fort which had this TAG:Template:Alumni. My question is: Is the School's Official Website a 'RELIABLE SOURCE' for whether the person mentioned was an Alumni or not?? And If it is, after citing the School Website as source, can I substitute the Template:Alumni with Template:Alumni editnotice ?? Thank you, Brgds, STC1 (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Writing an article
How do I write and post a article on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:4000:12CC:C116:6927:97C7:D3B4:5DA5 (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Creating an article is one of the hardest tasks on wikipedia. You should gain experience editing regular articles before you create any new ones. That being said, info can be found at WP:YFA. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The very first step is to make sure the subject of your article is notable by our definition (WP:N). If the subject is not notable, your article will be deleted and your effort will be wasted. -Arch dude (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

How do I change "intermediate revisions not shown" when looking at diffs?
When I click "cur" on a page's history, it used to show me all of the changes between that version of the article and the current one. Now, however, if the same user has been making multiple edits to the page, I get to see only the changes from that one edit and a little message in the middle of the screen that reads "(4 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)" or equivalent. This must be a setting somewhere, but I can't seem to find how to change it. I now have to look at every diff one by one, which is very inconvenient. How do I change this setting? Thanks for your help. Ganesha811 (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no setting for this. I must tell you that the message is a bit misleading. Whenever you ask the software to render a diff between twoo revisions, the software simply renders a difference between the two revisions without looking at the intermediate edits. Means, You will see all changes made by the individual edits merged into a single diff. To bettr explain that, lets assume that this is the History of Some Example article:


 * 1) revision #123, By Example User
 * 2) revision #234, By Example User
 * 3) revision #345, By Example User
 * When you would ask the software to render the diff between revisions 123 and 345, you will see all the changes, including those that were actually made in revision #234. The notice is simply there so you know somebody changed something in between. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the explanation, that's very helpful! Ganesha811 (talk) 17:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

OBSCENE PHOTO added, needs to be removed right away
Hello. The entry for Gertrude Käsebier has replaced her photo with an obscene one. Please fix it right away. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:8420:BB0F:A91A:C742:E57D:2539 (talk) 17:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✔️ * Pppery * it has begun... 17:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Doubt
How do I post my personal article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shevon j18 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: Similar question raised at the OP's talk. I have responded there and left welcome links etc. Eagleash (talk) 18:25, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Question about sockpuppetry
Hello, I have a particularly dumb question (Especially for someone with 119 edits in the mainspace). If I make an alternative account, just to keep it in case i forget the password to this one, will that count as sockpuppetry? Necctaylor ( chat ) 20:10, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Generally not, but you'd better to declare that the second account is also your's. Ruslik_ Zero 20:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Why not just wait? If you do forget your password, then you can set up a new account. There's no time limit for opening accounts. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It would probably be much easier just to use Special:Preferences to associate an e-mail account with your WP account, then if you forget your password you can use process mentioned at WP:UAS to have it reset. There are some reasons to have multiple accounts but fear of forgetting passwords is not really one of them! Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Racial demographics of the Arbitration Committee
The article on the Lincoln Project has little to no information about Rick Wilson's history of racism. Moreover, the edits mentioning these facts have been consistently ignored. I would like to know if ALL members of the Arbitration Committee identify as white, and why the Arbitration Committee persistently defends a racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archon0112 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The Arbitration Committee is tasked with resolving editor conduct disputes, and the committee members are not responsible for the Rick Wilson article nor the Lincoln Project article. You'll need to provide high-quality, reliable sources to back up any information that you want to add, and if your edits are reverted, you should open a discussion on the article's talk page to gain a consensus for the change — see WP:BRD for more information. Also, The Lincoln Project is about the organization and not focused primarily on Wilson, and we need to consider due and undue weight of information in articles. DanCherek (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Care to mulligan on your chosen topic? —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 21:05, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What are you getting at with this response? It reads like you're implying that this user might be subject to sanctions for asking about this, which is certainly false and inappropriate. -Elmer Clark (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing this is in reference to some article like this one. It's true that that article was semiprotected, but that process has nothing to do with the Arbitration Committee - any user can request that an article be semiprotected, and once consensus is built, any of our 1000+ administrators can pull the trigger. If you believe that the Confederate flag cooler Tweet incident mentioned at Rick Wilson (political consultant) is significant enough to the overall story of the Lincoln Project that it should be mentioned on its page as well, feel free to start a discussion at Talk:The Lincoln Project - it doesn't seem that anyone has ever even brought up the subject on that talk page, and that should always be your first recourse if you think an edit has been unjustly reverted or an article's coverage is slanted. -Elmer Clark (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)