Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 May 19

= May 19 =

Question regarding retroactively adding edit summaries.
Hi there, I recently added

to Family Guy (season 17) where I accidentally clicked "Publish changes" before writing an edit summary. Help:Edit summary says that the times where I don't put edit summaries are tracked, and even though this probably won't affect me since I'm definitely not becoming an admin any time soon, I'd prefer having a clean record (even though it doesn't/hasn't show(ed) up on ), so I was wondering if there was a way to add one retroactively by, for example, reverting the edit and then doing it again with an edit summary or something. Thanks in advance! davidxu160801 (talk) 01:20, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No, there's no way to retroactively add an edit summary. Don't worry about it though, no one will mind as long as you continue to regularly use edit summaries. If you make a substantial change to a page and forget to include one, you can follow up with a dummy edit to explain your change. DanCherek (talk) 01:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In your preferences you might like to tick the option "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary". -- John of Reading (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

A Very Large Blanking, which shouldn't have been −12,228‎ KB
Good Day, I came across this Large Blanking and I believe the deleted sections though unnecessarily large, don't deserve to be deleted, rather truncated. and cited. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Story_of_an_Hour&action=history, thank you. STC1 (talk) 02:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Agreed - I have reverted the blanking and instead added Template:Overly detailed. -Elmer Clark (talk) 05:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * thank you. STC1 (talk) 07:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * STC1 you could have reverted this yourself see BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. The IP editor has drawn attention to an issue with the article, so you could also remove some of the excess detail. TSventon (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure, hence the Help Desk. STC1 (talk) 12:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I understood you wanted advice so I wanted to give you some more background if you see something similar in future. TSventon (talk) 13:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I now Know. Thank you. :) STC1 (talk) 13:23, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Adamant Editor won't allow Edits.
Good Day, I would like to bring to your attention this Wikipage: I.C. Colony. The Page has ZERO citation / references, The entire write up reeks of WP:PROMO / WP:SOAP. The Editors refuse to allow any changes to the page(all edits are reverted), even Templates like Template:Citation Needed & Template:POV statement are deleted. This is not what wikipedia is about. The Article is tagged TEMPLATE:Unreferenced which means any uncited claim can and should be challenged / removed. But, sadly that's not what is being allowed to happen. STC1 (talk) 06:47, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling that user might need to be blocked for his intransigence here, considering his initial reaction to criticism was to blank it. This should be escalated to WP:ANI, I think.  —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 12:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I was surprised too, at the blatant lack of any procedure followed. I shall do the needful and escalate this. Appreciate the guidance. STC1 (talk) 13:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I think we should at least try to get a response from the editor in question first - it doesn't look like there has been any attempt at communication beyond edit summaries. He should have been pinged by now, so I would wait for further action before going to ANI (but I won't prevent you from doing so). LittlePuppers (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * See the diff I linked above, LittlePuppers. A user brought up the article's issues and called him by name, and he reverted it off. That's not a good-faith misunderstanding. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 13:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm all for a discussion. I had left messages on the I.C. Colony Chat Page. From my watchlist, I can see that Shaquille.oatmeal3333 tried to delete the contents of the chat page and was reverted by other editors. The person doesn't seem to want to engage in communication, but only engages reverting other Edits. If the statements made on the page are backed up by WP:Reliable references, who am I to object?STC1 (talk) 13:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , somehow I missed the talk page blank when I looked through the user's edits. Consider my concerns resolved. LittlePuppers (talk) 13:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm noticing that Shaquille.oatmeal3333 is a one-day-only SPA, which suggests they were hired to "work on" the article, and not to answer questions from WP.--Quisqualis (talk)

how we can change this draft page on pubblic page ?
Please help us, thanks Draft:Iaia De Rose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpsrl (talk • contribs) 19 May 2021 09:11 (UTC)
 * If you consider that the draft is ready for consideration as an article, you can click the blue 'submit' button in the grey draft notice. However, please clarify what you mean by 'we' and 'us'. Accounts do not allow use by more than one person (or any corporate or promotional use). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * But,, you will save people time, and make it more likely that a reviewer will pick up your draft and look at it, if you format your citations better: see REFB. On a quick look, I am doubtful that enough of your references are all three of reliable, indpendent of the subject, and containing significant coverage of her. Remember that Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything that the subject says or wants to say about herself, or what her associates say about her: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with her, and have not been prompted or fed information on her behalf, have chosen to publish about her in reliable places. --ColinFine (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)--ColinFine (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Swansea City AFC Logo
Hello there,

I am Jordan, Graphic Designer of Swansea City AFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_City_A.F.C.

I'm writing in request to change the logo of the club on the official Wiki page as it is now 10 years out of date. I've attached a link to the PNG of the new updated logo to add instead when possible, please: https://swanseacity.sharefile.com/d-s672dfeb0eed14b8583f1c55ee69aa38b

Thank you.

Kind Regards, Jordan Morcom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordanmorcomswanseacity (talk • contribs) 09:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello ! I put a comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football, hopefully someone will bite. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Nehme1499 13:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

How best to add/edit for Wikipedia an article already drafted with the help of a former Swedish civil engineer and typed in MS Word?
I added an article about my father 'Raymond Ray-Jones' to Wikipedia some years ago and now want to add another 'SfB: the first special classification for the building industry' which is already typed using MS Word. I am the author.Alan (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)--Alan (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Of course it will need to be modified in accordance with Wikipedia conventions and I'm sure it is not perfect, but having read a lot of Wikipedia 'How-to' pages, I am still not sure how best to go ahead. Can I upload it to editorial main-space and then work on it, or get permission to edit and use an editing wizard, or should I upload it for far more experienced editors to have a look at it first?

Thank you for your help with this query. Alan Ray-Jones, former Architect & RIBA member, UK Alan (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Alan Presumably SfB is Samarbetskommittén för Byggnadsfrågor, which does not have a Swedish Wikipedia article yet. Have you read Your First Article? Does your draft have references? presumably they won't be in Wikipedia format. You could put the Word article into your sandbox, User:RJalan/sandbox, then ask for more advice if you need it. TSventon (talk) 15:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, which I will follow. You are correct about the subject of the article - could it be translated into Swedish from English Wikipedia, or should I ask my Swedish colleague to translate it and contribute it to Swedish Wikipedia himself if he is willing?


 * Alan there is some guidance on translating en Wikipedia articles at Translate us. There is a tool to translate articles, which I haven't tried, but a volunteer, possibly your friend, would be needed to check the machine translation. TSventon (talk) 16:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Paplaj mata dausa Rajasthan India
Dear,

Pls upload full information about Godess Paplaj Mata Mandir situated in Lalsot distt. Dausa, Rajasthan, India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.99.165.239 (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. We have an article Paplaj Mata, but it is a stub with no references because no volunteer has chosen to add reliably sourced information to it. Your request is like saying "Please write a book about ...": it is possible that somebody will be interested in doing the large amount of work required to locate reliable sources, and write content in the article; but there is no guarantee. You can make it more likely if you locate some reliable published sources about Paplaj Mata. Note that sources like https://www.paplajmata.com and https://www.gosahin.com/places-to-visit/paplaj-mata-mandir/ are not adequate - the first is not independent and the second is probably not reliable. We really need scholarly books from reputable publishers.  --ColinFine (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

User creation log filtering
In the User creation log special page, how can I filter the results to only those users who have contributed something, i.e., their contribs is not a redlink. Jay (talk) 18:20, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's a built-in tool for this, but I asked about this some time ago at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests, and helped put together a short user script for me that does exactly this (I installed it at User:DanCherek/UserLogPatrol.js). It adds a "More" tab at the top right part of the user creation log page, and if you click "Hide" in the dropdown menu then only users with contributions are shown. DanCherek (talk) 18:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have imported it and it works! Will it be added to User scripts/List? Looks like I am the only other user using it. Jay (talk) 18:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll put it on my to-do list after writing a short doc page and figuring out where it should be placed on that script list. DanCherek (talk) 20:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Update Nicki Minaj Website on Google results
When Nicki Minaj name is entered into Google and scroll down. You have an inactive website for Nicki Minaj. PinkFriday.com is not an active website & should not show up. Please update ot to show her correct website on Google search results.

This is her correct website:

http://www.nickiminajofficial.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.200.6.92 (talk)
 * Are you referring to the content of a Wikipedia article? We have no control over Google search results, you will need to contact Google for that.  If you are referring to content at Nicki Minaj, please post at Talk:Nicki Minaj. 331dot (talk) 19:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Nicki Minaj had a dead link to mypinkfriday.com. I have updated it. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Section removal
Reference is made to my section edits on this page titled legal technology. May i know as to why the section was removed in its entirety? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawwbots (talk • contribs)
 * You may wish to ask on the article talk page, Talk:Legal technology, but your edit was reverted because Wikipedia is not a directory of companies. If you feel that the list should be included, please bring it up on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 20:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Image Copyright on WW2 image
Hi Folks!! Once again a copyright question, regarding this image: This was taken by a German soldier at the end of 1944 or early 1945 (I've only just started the article). It was taken in the Netherlands, as that was where the radio team was base. There are hardly any images of this type. I've been looking for about three years and seen never anything like it, or even one of them, hence the reason for the question. Is it possible it is in some kind of public domain as it was taken by a member of the German army? I have no idea, really. Thanks.  scope_creep Talk  21:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you don't get an answer here, try WP:MCQ, where the copyright experts tend to hang out. RudolfRed (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I did look at a couple of noticeboards, one CCI, but it was more for investigations. I think I will post it up there as well. I didn't even know about that board. I will give them a try.   scope_creep Talk  23:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)