Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 November 6

= November 6 =

Aligning a table
Hello, I am working on a results page for the 2021 Japanese election. (page draft is here: User:Bwmdjeff/2021election). I would like to know how to make the table aligned to the right side of the page (like this: Results of the 2017 Japanese general election). Thanks. Bwmdjeff (talk) 00:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Confused about use of Category:Young adult fiction book cover images
In the past I've uploaded a few photos to Wikimedia Commons that I knew were in the public domain, and I understand about not violating copyright laws. I recently went to the Trixie Belden article and saw that the book cover photo was not from Wikimedia Commons, but from Category:Young adult fiction book cover images. I clicked on the Trixie Belden photo for more information and saw this: as well as non-free use rationale about low-resolution book covers being allowed on Wikipedia articles. I'm currently researching the Power Boys book series in order to improve the article, and I liked the idea of adding a book cover image. But there doesn't seem to be a way to add an image to Category:Young adult fiction book cover images, and I can't add a Power Boys photo via Wikimedia Commons since I'm unsure of the copyright status. I'm thinking it may be best to forget the idea of adding a book cover to the article since I don't understand Category:Young adult fiction book cover images, but decided to ask if it's a legitimate way to add copyrighted books cover art to articles. Karenthewriter (talk) 02:13, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You cannot upload a non-free image to Commons. You must upload it to the English Wikipedia instead, Just like your Trixie Belden example. IN the File Upload Wizard, pick the "upload a non-free file" button instead of the larger "Upload your own or a freely licensed file" button. -Arch dude (talk) 02:25, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Arch dude (talk) thank you so much. I don't have JavaScript, so couldn't use "upload a non-free file", but I was given another uploading option where I had to write a summary of all needed information and, as of now, my photo is in the Power Boys article. As long as no one comes along and decides the details I included isn't enough all should be well. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:35, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

When is a film without reviews notable?
I had watched and enjoyed the 1973 film The Brothers O'Toole and noticed a number of mentions of the film in various places on Wikipedia, so I decided to write an article about it. The film had a pretty star-studded cast, notably John Astin, famous for The Addams Family (1964 TV series) and Evil Roy Slade, and Lee Meriwether, among others.

The problem is, I cannot find any sources about it, other than user-generated reviews on IMDB, YouTube, etc.

I might argue that the film is notable due to its cast, meeting WP:NFO criterion #2. But it feels weird to write an article without citing anything.

My draft (so far) is at Draft:The Brothers O'Toole. I'm concerned that when I finish it and move it to article space, it would get deleted due to lack of sourcing. And honestly, there isn't much more I can add. I don't want to start citing reviews on sites with user-generated content.

Should I just give up on it? I'm not sure where else to ask. There isn't a "notability noticeboard" on Wikipedia. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:47, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Anachronist (talk) if you have a newspapers.com subscription there is an article in The Bradenton Herald (Bradenton, Florida), September 16, 1973, page 71. My 1991 edition of Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide lists the actors, year and movie length, which would give you another reference. Sorry, but that's all I was able to find. Perhaps a local library might have some movie reference books you could check. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:52, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Much of that information can come directly from the DVD box (or where I saw it, Amazon Prime). I don't have a newspapers.com subscription. I was thinking maybe Lexis/Nexis could be useful, and may turn up that Brandenton Herald piece as well as others. What I really need is reliable source coverage rather than database listings. I should go to my local library (now that they're letting people back into it after COVID restrictsions lifted a bit) and check. I sure can't find anything on the freely-available internet. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:13, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I've clipped the newspapers.com article for you here. It's more about Sellier than the film, so it's only a borderline source. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There's an anonymous review in the November 22, 1973, Seguin Gazette-Enterprise, also available on newspapers.com, but meh. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:30, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Just as a rule of thumb, a film (or any media) doesn't need reviews to be notable, or even to be released. It simply needs to meet WP:GNG. Although, in this case I think it's unlikely. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:36, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I applied for newspapers.com access via the Wikipedia Library and am waiting for the outcome. There are a couple of tidbits in that article I can use. In fact, the article implies that the film launched the career of producer Charles Sellier (at least it was his first success), which would qualify the topic for notability under the inclusionary criteria.
 * I'm well aware of that. The question is whether a film with a star-studded cast is notable without coverage. That's why I started this discussion. WP:NFO indicates that it is possible, but I am not sure about this film, which predates the internet. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:26, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * American Film Institute has a page for the film. There are a couple interesting items including union troubles. The sources sections lists several articles that you might be able to track down. Buckskin Joe's is mentioned as a filming location at this website. Years ago I knew someone who had scouted locations for the film so I do hope you can gather enough to get an article up and going. It is kinda fun to watch and the way that the town of Molybdenum is pronounced as Molly-be-damn is an abiding memory for me :-) Good luck. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:14, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent information, thanks. I can use some of that. Now I just need to find some journalistic coverage or reviews. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:24, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I am glad the info helps . I did post a link to this thread at the filmproject page. I don't know if it will bring any responses but there are some crack researchers that have that talk page on their watchlists. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:30, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * One other place that you might ask for help is the Reference desk/Entertainment. I have been amazed at some of the stuff that has been found by the editors there over the tears years. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There's no crying in Wikipedia! (Maybe some blood and sweat ...) Clarityfiend (talk) 09:05, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * OMG . My computer's spell check is useless (no squiggly red underline) if my spelling error is an actual word :-) Facepalm and a trout for me. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 14:49, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Re: WP:NFO criterion #2: "The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of their career" - if it doesn't meet those criteria, then you're just running afoul of WP:NOTINHERITED. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  15:49, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Statement showing donations made
Is there a way to see a transaction history of my automatic donations made to Wikipedia? Lchoisf (talk) 10:33, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The best way would be for you to look at your bank/account records. If that is not available to you for some reason, you would need to contact the Foundation at, donate at Wikipedia dot org for assistance; they handle everything to do with donations. 331dot (talk) 14:20, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

my bio isn't being shown on the wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Preethim93 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preethim93 (talk • contribs) 13:14, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, you appear to have created an autobiography in your talk page. The talk page exists for other editors to communicate with you; it should not contain article-like content or it may be deleted. Your user page exists for you to tell the Wikipedia community a lttle about yourself and how you intend to contribute to the encyclopedia. Again, it should not contain content that resembles an article. Not sure what you mean by the 'Wikipedia page' but user pages will not be indexed by search engines. Please do not create an autobiography (see link above and WP:PROUD for why this is not typically acceptable) and draft articles for valid topics should be created via WP:AFC or WP:WIZ.  Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:25, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

How can I look up names of contributors?
is this possible by providing actual names of Wiki contributors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.206.67 (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * What you are asking would generally be a violation of privacy, see WP:OUTING- some contributors use their real names, but it is not required, and Wikipedia does not have to be given a person's real name for them to create an account. 331dot (talk) 14:22, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


 * You can find the usernames of all contributors to an article by looking at the article history. Some users have chosen to give their real names, others not. More than ten million different users have contributed to Wikipedia since it's inception, and more than 100,000 different users have contributed to Wikipedia in the last month, so it would be a long list. -Arch dude (talk) 15:58, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

undefined analogue which links to a more general topic
Does this exist? I'm thinking of a template which would link to a more general page until the red link is created -- for example, displaying "New York City" instead of a visible red link to "Brooklyn" if the Brooklyn article wasn't created yet. Daß Wölf 22:18, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


 * A simple redirect will accomplish this. If an article is ever created, the redirect is replaced with the new article. Articles that had a link to the redirect will then link to the new article automatically. There is a categorization template for these kinds of redirects, . MB 22:44, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You can use mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions directly without a template. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:10, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Daß Wölf 01:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

I can't download PDF
I can't download PDF — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vish Iatr Zeit (talk • contribs) 23:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Which PDF, where? AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:38, 6 November 2021 (UTC)